Lefebvrians DISORDERS AND BORDERLINE: BREAKING THE UNIT GENERATES NON-UNIT
[…] the elders of the schismatic sect of Lefebvre accused in their official statement Bishop Richard Williamson and the Benedictine Jean Michel Faure, he consecrated bishop on 19 March 2015 in Brazil, Of … "No longer recognize the Roman authorities'.
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[…] daily at fulfilling my duties I have the sacramental unworthy honor to announce the Word of God to the congregation, proclaiming which I never say - and like me my Venerable Brother Priests do not, including epistemologists - " From Iota Unum according Romano », nor the people of God responds: « Praise to thee Amerio ».
The text of Prof. Paul Pasqualucci to which was given the answer that follows below is readableWHO
Author Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo
Dearest son.
The Professorschronic is a disease from which we often fail to heal and often can lead to collapse in part in tuttologia cosmic in part in the megalomania. For this I start immediately with telling her that if she had seen the blockbuster film The Ten Commandments with the splendid interpretation of Charlton Heston in the role of the patriarch Moses and Yul Brynner in the role of the Egyptian pharaoh [see WHO], this does not empower it to feel an expert in biblical sciences nor to dispense wisdom that shows you do not have the specific merit of the issues that has to deal with alleged in his article the subject of my reply, beyond its inner intentions that I can not read or judge. However, according to what she writes and expresses publicly - not least through extensive copy and paste facts on authentic texts canonical fiction taken from the writings disseminated by Lefebvrian circles - I must take note that from his lines neither good intentions nor authentic Catholic sentiments emerge.
For the mandate given to me by the Holy Church of Christ I was called through the ministerial priesthood to exercise universal paternity on believers of Christ that the Lord Jesus entrusted to Peter and the Apostles the command to feed his flock [cf. GV 21, 15-17]. We priests are the direct collaborators of the Apostles custodians of the fullness of the priesthood who have moved over us part of their sacramental power, teachers and government; and in full communion and devout obedience to our bishops are called to the exercise of the sacred ministry according to our degree sacramental.
the priest Ariel S. Levi Gualdo carried in procession to the Holy Gospel during a celebration presided over by Bishop
By exercising the sacred ministry and sacramental powers and faculty related to it for service to the Catholic Church and the People of God, in my writings I always quote the Holy Gospel; unlike her that calling into question the Lady Maria Guarini that hosted its written in your blog, part instead attack disruptive citing forward all the work Iota Of Romano Amerio.
I feel obliged to inform that every day in fulfilling my duties I have the sacramental unworthy honor to announce the Word of God to the congregation, proclaiming which I never say - and like me my Venerable Brother Priests do not, including epistemologists - «From Iota Unum according Romano», nor the people of God responds: «Praise to thee Amerio». Assembly met for the celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice, before the priest holla the Holy Gospel, one or more readers proclaim psalms and readings taken from the Book of Revelation. I can assure you that in no church reads the Denzinger during the liturgical action, nor treated narcissistic philosophical aesthetics in which proclaims that "beauty will save us', because it was the blood of the Sacrificial Lamb who washed the sin of the world [CF Jn. 1, 29], not the beauty of certain philosophers ameriani imbued with an aesthetic aesthetic that has almost the flavor of gnosis, in addition to a lack of virility languorous spiritual.
All things that please report Also Mrs. implicated in his written by her, not from me that I said to it in consciousness, for her highest good and for the salvation of his soul, what I was obliged to tell her [see WHO]; because as far as she would be offended to be one that is meant not only the liturgy but also of sola, authentic e true Catholic liturgy, remains undisputed that it is not certain this Gentildonna to celebrate the sacred mysteries in our Holy Church ordered on precise roles, within which each should stay in place and comply with what he is allowed to fulfill in the economy of salvation. Indeed, on time paradisíaco of which this like other ladies of the true "Traditio"Cry tears of nostalgia - for example under the august pontificate of the Holy Pontiff Pius X - not only, would never have been allowed to speak in their theology or liturgy, but it was not even allowed to sing in a church choir. Warns fact St. Paul the Apostle:
"As in all the churches of the saints, the women keep silence in the assembly, because they are not allowed to speak. Obey instead, as the law says. If they wish to learn something, question their husbands at home, for it is improper for a woman to speak in the meeting " [The Cor 14, 33-35].
The Apostle is not a misogynist, be clear, he intends only admonish reminding Guarini era their precise role in the economy of salvation, all in a social situation - that of the ancient city of Corinth - in which women were trying to dominate and dictate even to bishops, presbyters and deacons, invested by divine grace of a role is not granted to women, including those more or less pie, more or less expert in liturgy and theology. Therefore avoid certain ladies and Gentlemen of yelling "Traditio, Traditio! "And then take the Apostolic Tradition and the history of the Church exclusively what makes them comfortable, finally treating the priestly dignity literally fish in the face for the work of the laity “Catholics” that like her, Professor clear, yes true show deficiencies, but not on theology, which is what a lot of deep and serious, but on the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which is equally profound and serious, with all due respect for its wide copy and paste canonical fiction from the writings of the circles Lefebvrians.
I reject the accusations addressed to me of "deficiencies philosophical-theological" not because outraged, least of all because they hurt, but for the sacred respect that I have to the Bishop that I was ordained a priest and for his successor to the obedience of which are now subject filially, the first place that would never consecrated priest adult ignorant, the second would never let utter impunity errors, especially considering that my writings are read by thousands of readers and often translated into different languages from the original Italian. In rejecting certain unjust and unfounded charges, I therefore do not intend to defend my dignity - which I repeat I am not interested in doing - but that of the Bishop who consecrated me a priest and that of the Bishop whose obedience I am now subject to.
I reiterate why neither my Bishop - That as the Supreme Master of the Doctrine has jurisdiction over me, so precise duties of correction and return to me - nor the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith never would marry this accusation to me revolt, I repeat that leaves me completely indifferent. If you give me ignorant but incomplete may cheer the microcosm of your gloomy Pharisees and your sad Pelagians, in that case face as well, always assuming that you are willing to lend some Catholic listening outside of your ghetto self-referential, beyond which and out of which there is the mystery of the Church with his people on the move, that far from living property, or jump like frogs always in the same puddle of water stale, lives in Christ and continues well beyond your limiting delimited and fences made of a thousand sophistries and commas weighed so paroxysmal.
The fact that she, or who inspired the substance of his writing, proclamations of a famous blog at the speck of my announced but do not try 'shortcomings philosophical-theological ", should not in any way waive its ghost writer from seeing the beam that She&Comrades brought stuck in the eye, for example its actual theological deficiencies, ecclesiological and canonical mere opinions that are not mine, but the data contained in his writings puzzling and mystifying, because structured mainly on extrapolations wildly contexts complex and articulated the previous documents of the Magisterium are antecedent to “' trembling” Vatican Council II, or shreds de-contextualized from the literature of the ancient Fathers of the Church of which she tends to do clumsy collage to produce effect on those simple - unlike me and my other brothers theologians - have not been able to devote years of their lives to studying the patristic texts in their entirety and articulated in the original Greek and Latin. All this combines sad fellowship to those who err as they were moved by the impulses of that pride that prevents them from accepting a given elementary dogmatic: the custody of the faith is entrusted to the Holy Church of Christ that worships in the figure of the Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, the living expression of his supreme guardian and guarantor being he called to confirm his brothers in faith [LC 22, 31-32]. It is therefore with loving kindness severe pastoral and doctrinal that admonish telling: who is against Peter is not against Jorge Mario Bergoglio, how she thinks and how his associates believe in fair and public heresy, but is against Christ which Peter, rock edifying of the Church [cf. Mt 16, 18-19], plays for his divine will and mandate as substitute: "He who is not with me is against me; and whoever does not gather with me, scatters " [Mt 12, 30].
To clear imperative of conscience I am required to tell her that her writings are a true repository of heresies, and soon I'll explain why: for years she rejects them publicly in the teaching of the last half-century history of the Church, it questions the authority of an Ecumenical Council whose doctrines it rejects, all with serious and unacceptable allegations of error and deviation from Catholic tradition promptly addressing all successive popes from the Chair of Peter 1958 till today. Allegations, these its, aimed particularly hard in his numerous articles precisely those Popes who have been canonized or beatified by the Holy Church of Christ: St. John XXIII, Blessed Paul VI, Saint John Paul II.
Becomingly then the shelf certain theories questionable del Vostro "divinizzato" Romano Amerio, so talented and intelligent, but so dark and devoid of confident hope, to which you recognize a "infallibility" not recognized instead to an entire ecumenical meeting; and especially this Lent picks up the four Gospels, because those and only those are the Word of God, not the Iota of this great and talented philosopher who has also produced some damage when he principiato to use your meter to make the philosophical theologian and ecclesiologist which in fact is not.
In a spirit of faith, hope and charity I will continue to pray with priestly paternity so that she and Mrs. Maria Guarini can correct you from these serious mistakes with your great responsibility spread such false truth among believers; mistakes that make you closed listening and actions of God's grace; errors poison where you are confirming with each other and urging you so evil to consider the Holy Church of Christ as the first, the worst and the greatest enemy of your distorted and erroneous idea of faith and Catholic tradition, up to consider and present the Successor of Peter, supreme shepherd and guardian of deposit of credit, as a “destroyer” it's a “forger” the truths of faith; and all this make you a dangerous heretics as speaker of poisonous errors between the People of God.
This act is partly foolishness partly aberration,especially for her that in her capacity as legal philosopher assumed to be able to move so smooth on the ground of complex and delicate theological and dynamics of many complex and delicate canonical disciplines, that in the concrete facts shows, however, with his public writings do not know neither good nor thoroughly. Then take to the good “reasons” of Lefebvre who attempt to play on quibbles Byzantine-fetched and targeted primarily to alter the solar truth of the facts and the facts as they are clearly held, know that it can only lead to the brink of that Pharisaism which these subjects are natural heirs. Indeed, when the Pharisees could not deny the Lord Jesus the fact that he had healed before numerous witnesses a man blind from birth, wanting to attack anyway altered to such an extent the reality up to accuse him of having performed a miracle on Saturday, day in which it is forbidden to work, then make even miracles [GV 9, 16].
I commend you and then again to the mercy of God with a special prayer to the Holy Spirit in this fourth Sunday of Lent.
Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo - presbyter
From the island of Patmos, 15 March 2015 – Rejoice on Sunday
I came Creator
Come, Creator Spiritus, blest!, To fill the, that thou hast made.
Who díceris Paraclitus, God's gift of the highest, VIVUS background, ignis, caritas, and spiritalis unctio.
Your munere septiformis, Digitus Paternae dexterae, You Promise of the Father, speech endow.
Kindle a light, hearts with love, our bodily blest.
Guest repéllas lóngius pacémque women prótinus; Through you prǽviam Each harmful.
Praise we the Father we also know the Son, You the Spirit credamus omni tempore.
All glory, and the Son, who died Surrexit, and Paráclito, forever and ever.
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[…] if the Supreme Pontiff Paul VI, as he wrote and reiterated, says the Bishop Marcel Lefebvre that his ideas are "against the faith" and invited him to submit in obedience to the Church and to the Successor of Peter, it is clear that it intends to accuse him of heresy. For what is the heresy, if not a proposition against the faith arising from the refusal to pay obedience to the doctrines of the Church and its Supreme Apostolic Authority? But, as we have recently seen, exist “Catholics” that while before such evidence attempt to quibble with futile sophistry, but in fact there is little to quibble because of futile sophistry is precisely.
Author Drafting of the island of Patmos
The concept of heresy can be expressed with various expressions verbal equivalent. There you have to stick to the words, but paying attention to the concept; otherwise you are hypocrites, Pharisees obtuse, or fanatics closed in themselves.
"Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees" [Mt 16, 6]
For example, if we say that Joseph no longer lives, is clearly meant to say that he is dead. It is therefore easy to say that if the Supreme Pontiff Paul VI, as he wrote and reiterated, says the Bishop Marcel Lefebvre that his ideas are "against the faith" [who] and invites him to submit in obedience to the Church and to the Successor of Peter, it is clear that it intends to accuse him of heresy. For what is the heresy, if not a proposition against the faith arising from the refusal to pay obedience to the doctrines of the Church and its Supreme Apostolic Authority? But, as we have recently seen, exist “Catholics” that while before such evidence attempt to quibble with futile sophistry, but in fact there is little to quibble because of futile sophistry is precisely.
How to assert that this error was not the heretic and schismatic bishop Marcel Lefebvre but the whole of the Second Vatican Ecumenical seated, then the Holy Father John XXIII, the Blessed Pontiff Paul VI, the Holy Pontiff John Paul II, The Popes Benedict XVI and Francis as they say “responsible” of the continuity of these “errors” caused by none other than an ecumenical council “Pastoral only” so “undogmatic“, for the sake of which the Church would be made even slip in “apostasy from the faith” [see WHO], affirming that are themselves heretics and speakers of dangerous heresies, without any possibility of pettifogging sophistry Justifiers on the theological, metaphysical and epistemological, if we really want to be serious. The Vatican, as repeatedly wrote and explained the Fathers John Cavalcoli and Ariel S. Levi Gualdo in their various articles, although not sanctioned new dogmas, according to the principles and the three different degrees of infallibility [cf. To protect the faith, WHO] has sanctioned the new doctrines binding and not subject to rejection by anyone [on the degree of infallibility, see our previous article WHO].
The judges of the ecclesiastical court at the hearing by the Supreme Pontiff
Even if so and so is a heretic and manifest, the Apostolic, reasons for its, is free to speak or not to pronounce a judgment of heresy. It is therefore necessary to distinguish the problems of heresy that is the task of the theologian and what is the task of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. It is in fact two orientations or pastoral functions different and somewhat independent of each other. The Apostolic See has never supported certain theories and let theologians always free to express their views.
how many theologians should be reproached for the good of the Church and the faithful?
The Apostolic See can blame the theologian who is wrongin judging another as a heretic; but does not prohibit all a theologian detect in another the germs of a heretical thought. As the theologian who is accused by a colleague of heresy, he must guard - something which unfortunately happens - dall'indignarsi as if he had been defamed; quite the opposite, the accused must examine the charges that are facts and act accordingly. If the charges are fair, will mend; if it is wrong to be the theologian accuser having to apologize or repair the wrong done.
the schismatic bishop Marcel Lefebvre
One might wonder if the highlight the fact that Marcel Lefebvre is a heretic can be useful for obtaining the return of lefevriani. The Apostolic until now proceeded with too much delicacy and lefevriani took advantage to drag the dispute to infintum.
The Apostolic See has so far been too frugal using the term “heresy”, perhaps not evoke dark ghosts of the past? This overindulgence, not to say negligence, But he finished with allow the rise, the resurgence and the free flow of many and various heresies, existing in certain subjects particularly aggressive as "natural" fruits of the Council, by the College of Cardinals until the sacristan of a country parish; a Council that these heretics overt and posters indicate as "evil" and then as the "natural" source and origin of all evil.
Clearly, so you can not go on,perché l’eresia pone ostacolo alla salvezza. We must therefore go back to using that term when appropriate, so well considered and examined; as well as a conscientious doctor makes the diagnosis of a cancer or leukemia, with the difference that from these evils almost always not heals, while it heals from heresies.
religious assistance in a field hospital
The fear of repeating the mistakes of the past It should not be so high up to push the Ecclesiastical Authority to do nothing or to remain silent, otherwise they perform opposite and worst mistakes, as it is clear today, as we are invaded by a large amount of disease-free and that the medical care.
The church, says the Holy Father, It is a "field hospital".D’accordo. But where are the doctors? It is not that heresy disappear by itself for the fact that it is not spoken or not treated. On the contrary, as the facts, heresies increase and the word ends up being misused by senseless exasperated as demonstrated for example by the extremists that today even accuse the Supreme Pontiff of heresy, and its predecessors succeeded on the Chair of Peter from 1958 following.
medical error …
If a doctor misses a cure, Perhaps that is why you should stop being a doctor? L’uso pudico di circonlocuzioni per alludere all’eresia può essere utile in certe situazioni incandescenti, ma l’usarlo sistematicamente non ha per effetto, come è dimostrato dell’esperienza, altro che il dare il permesso a chiunque di abbracciare l’eresia sotto i più speciosi pretesti che tutti conosciamo.
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il rimprovero è un atto di amore e di misericordia al quale la Chiesa non può e non deve all’occorrenza sottrarsi
If we apply wherever this devastating principle,None, since we are all fallible, It should do nothing for fear of making mistakes. That's why perhaps it is time to address decisively the doctrinal question from this angle.
We must make it clear once and for all to Lefebvre in good faith,who they love the truth and sincerely want to be Catholic and respect the Tradition, che sono vittime dell’eresia, hoping that they listen. Otherwise you have to clearly warn the faithful of the danger, perché questi falsi cattolici continuano a far proseliti aumentando l’odio contro Roma, against the Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, against the teachings and doctrines of Vatican II.
the rebuke, la correzione dell’errore e la lotta contro l’eresia, is an act of love and mercy to which the Church can not and must not shirk if necessary, especially during the Jubilee of Mercy, indetto dal Sommo Pontefice Francesco per l’anno 2015/2016.
ATTI E DOCUMENTI DELLA SANTA SEDE SUL CASO DELL’ERESIA LEFEBVRIANA
– «Letter S.S. Paul VI to Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre», 29 June 1975 [text WHO]
– Apostolic Letter of SS. Paul VI, «New admonition to S.It is. Mons. Marcel Lefebvre», 8 September 1975 [text, WHO]
– S.S. Paul VI, «Letter to Bishop. Marcel Lefebvre», 15 August 1976 [text WHO]
– Speech by SS. Paul WE "On the painful story of Mons. Marcello Lefebvre», 1September 1976 [text WHO]
– «Apostolic Letter Ecclesia Dei"The Supreme Pontiff John Paul II in the form of motu proprio, 2 July 1988 [text WHO].
– Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts, Explanatory Note "On the excommunication for schism they face the adherents to the movement of Bishop Marcel Lefebvre», 24 August 1996 [text WHO].
– Congregation for Bishops: «Decree of remission of the excommunication latae sententiae to the Bishops of the Fraternity of St. Pius X», 21 January 2009 [text WHO]
– «Note from the Secretary of State about the four bishops of the Fraternity of St. Pius X», 4 February 2009 [text WHO]
– Letter of the Holy Father Benedict XVI to the Bishops of the Catholic Church concerning the remission of the excommunication of 4 Bishops consecrated by 'Archbishop Lefebvre [text, 10 March 2009 WHO].
THE QUESTION OF HERESY AND HERETICS, YESTERDAY AND TODAY
Any faithful firmly in faith, sensitive to the good of souls, well informed of the case, can pronounce, with caution and after careful consideration, the note of heresy against another faithful; can also report it, if you believe and if that can serve the good of the heretic and that of the faithful […]
Author John Cavalcoli OP
the work of the Dominican theologian John Cavalcoli, The question of heresy today [see WHO]
A term delicate but important Christian language, use with caution, in appropriate circumstances and with knowledge of the facts, is to “heresy”, which consists in general in the choice (AIRESIS, αἵρεσις) a false proposition in doctrine of faith or in the suppression or denial or doubt volunteers of some truths of faith. Now, because faith is truth, heresy is a false proposition against the doctrine of the faith.The heretic does not welcome with true faith (fides through) everything (the faith which) the church, at various levels of authority, gives us to believe as is contained in the deposit of Revelation, whose sources are Scripture and Tradition. Instead, he does a sorting arbitrary; or, maybe considering themselves directly illuminated by God, subjectively choose between the contents of faith only those that please him or make him comfortable or is complying with its reason. Which shows the lack of a true faith, even if the subject accepts other content, because those who believe, welcomes with confidence all that the authority reveals. Vice versa, is precisely when it comes to unique data or homogeneous to reason, that reason has the right and duty to do a screen according to his principles and his method and take only what is in accordance with reason and can be intuited or proven by reason. Instead the truths of faith do not conflict with reason, but are however higher, as divine truths, so that, if there can be harmony between reason and faith, given that the one and the other is based in God, such harmony does not allow the right to make themselves evident truths, who are most certain, but for her mysterious and transcendent.
Joan of Arc led the French army against the English during the Hundred Years War. Captured by the Burgundians was sold to the English that on trial for heresy. The 30 May 1431 was burned alive at the stake. In 1456 Pontiff Callixtus III declared that process null and void. In 1909 was beatified by Pope Pius X and canonized in 1920 by Pope Benedict XV.
This inconsistency intellect heretic with the truth and therefore its false notion, which also appears true to him, can be conscious and intentional, or it may be unconscious and involuntary. In the first case gives a grave offense, because it suppresses or falsifies the faith under the angle of that proposition. And since every truth of faith is necessary for salvation, heresy compromises salvation, even if it is a single proposition, as just one mortal sin to take away the grace. So likewise in an organism, any corruption or dysfunction of a vital organ, although others remain healthy, causes the death of the subject.
In the second case, the subject does not know to be in error,why not to blame. Assuming that he loves the truth, if it is lit, easily corrects. Instead the heretic volunteer, since it is attached to its error, although refuted, persists in restargli attacked as it prefers its judgment for that of the Church, that warns him of his heresy, that he continues to profess no love for the truth, but because it suits them or for pride or for other interests unrelated to love the truth. The heretic is not simply those who deny a truth of faith or dogma, but it is the Catholic who betrays the faith through heresy. Because of this, those subjects, as for example the Protestants, born in a Protestant and receive an education Protestant, though in their doctrines are contained objectively heresies, can not properly be called “heretics”, ma, according to the expression coined by St. John XXIII, and entered into use, I'm “separated brethren“, They, as the Council teaches, belong to the Church, but without being in full communion, for which the Bond hopes that one day they enter the Catholic Church [see WHO].
Sant'Agostino dispute with heretics Donatists, painting by Carl Van Loo (1753)
Heresy is opposed to revealed truth or faith, it is the Word of God, either dogma or is the doctrine of the Church. It questions the true and the false suspect; exchanges the true with the false and the false with the true; the appearance with the truth and the truth with appearance; relativize the absolute and the relative absoluteness; makes changing the unchanging and unchangeable the changing; confuses what is distinct; opposes that which is joined; takes the part for the whole (“ideology”) and the whole for the part. The New Testament, while considering inevitable heresies because of the weakness and human malice [The Cor 11,19], considers heresies as “doctrines of devils” [The Tm 4,1] and warns against the heretics [Tt 3,10]. The heretic 'refuses to turn to the truth to give heed to fables " [II Tm 4,4]. It's a “Antichrist” which separates from the Christian community [The Gv 2,19]. Heresy is a wisdom “earthly, fleshly, diabolic” [GC 3,15]. San Giovanni is severe against heretics: must stay away from them: "Who goes further and does not adhere to the doctrine of Christ, do not receive him into your house nor greet; because who greets him, participates in his evil deeds " [II Jn 11].
the famous statue erected in honor of Giordano Bruno in Campo dei Fiori in Rome after the unification of Italy. The Bruno underwent a long process from 1592. In 1599 the Inquisition invited him to recant seven propositions heretical. After the sentence was made to spend another year during which the invitation was repeated several times. The judges of the Inquisition, in addition to condemning his heresies, for years tried to save him.
The Church from the beginning, in the decrees of the Popes and Councils, after an appropriate warning heretic, if these are not corrected, was always careful to point out the heretics to the community and possibly punish them, so that the same caution and avoided their mistake. A disciplinary canon is excommunication, the so-called let him be, which has the task of clarifying that the heretic, because of his heresy, can not be considered as a member of that community, which is founded on the truth that he refuses. However the Church, even in the case of heretics, not always resorts to excommunication, but it also has other means and ways to stimulate and induce the sinner to repent and abandon his error.
However, while an excommunication can be removed, when the Church condemns heresy, as is demonstrated by the story itself [see WHO], not ever withdraws his judgment [see WHO, WHO], because it is considered that the Church is infallible in this type of judgments, that touch, albeit sub contrario, the doctrine of the faith.
In canon law heresy is configured as a felony or misdemeanor, which can then be punished after due process, initiated following a complaint made to the competent judicial authority of the Church, from the Episcopal and Roman. Today the heresy trials are very rare. The pastors prefer interventions less formalized and more soft or ductile, as the case, promoting the good qualities of the heretic and aiming more than punishment, to correction.This style more evangelical and more respectful of the person of the heretic and confident in the ability of self-defense of a people of God duly informed in those truths that are denied heretic, originates from the pastoral and canonical reform promoted by the Second Vatican Council, who, while condemning serious errors of the modern world, not ever pronounce the word “heresy” preferring equivalent expressions. Nor are the traditional canons against heretics.
ancient fresco depicting the heretic Arius
Heresy in the strongest sense is the denial of a dogma solemnly and explicitly defined [doctrine from the throne]. But as the Magisterium of the Church teaches infallibly the truths of faith or related to the faith even at two levels or lower mode of authority, such was the case for the doctrines of Vatican II [see me previous article WHO], those who do not accept these doctrines of authority less, certainly not would sin against the divine faith and therefore could not be considered properly heretic; and yet his mistake could be qualified as “next heresy” (the nearest heresy), to heresy (heresy wise) or at least disobedient to the authentic Magisterium of the Church: offensive to pious ears (pious ears relentless).
St. Augustine in a depiction of Peter della Francesca. The Ipponate was staunch in combat heresy of Pelagius
Any faithful firmly in faith, sensitive to the good of souls, well informed of the case, can pronounce, with caution and after careful consideration, the note of heresy against another faithful; can also report it, if you believe and if that can serve the good of the heretic and that of the faithful, to the Bishop or to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith [see our previous article WHO]. It is therefore not necessary to consider heresy or heretics only those doctrines or those who have been explicitly condemned by the Church. Of course, of these heresies you can have absolute certainty and condemn our part can give great strength to our judgment. But nobody prevents us, indeed the’love Christi that No urgencys, urges us to take note of the heresies that are in circulation, and several, to see what can be done to remedy it.
Undoubtedly the scrutiny and judgment of heresies is not easy. You must have a great love for the truth and be animated by a great charity: must be well prepared in Catholic doctrine and know how to interpret the sayings and writings of others. Efforts should be interpreted in good, unless the error is not obvious. It should, however, always, in principle, put in mind of being able to make mistakes in interpreting or judging: or too severe or too mild. A proposition that seems heretical to the letter, namely, according to the objective meaning, own and coherent words, may not be heretical in intentions and in that meaning, that did not express the goods or property of language, but meant another thing, on balance, is Orthodox.
Farinata Dante illustrates the condition of heretics condemned to eternal damnation
The Church condemns always, when it does, a heresy to the letter, that is, in the literal meaning, as objectively causes harm to the faithful and inspires followers, perhaps without the author's name, not to address the issue of sometimes thorny what he meant exactly the author, but the thing from a pastoral point of view does not interest. The important thing is that the faithful be preserved from error and know what the truth is the opposite.
The Church is the author's name,when it is a doctrine of his own or intends to censor the leading exponent or the initiator of a heretical movement or when the adherents of this movement may be crafty in decline or hide their responsibilities. Today, however, the Church often avoids to name, to prevent an exaggerated opposition to the heretic, that a failure to recognize the qualities, which can be also great and beneficial for other reasons.
Blessed Antonio Rosmini
Today, however, especially - See for example the case of Blessed Antonio Rosmini - the Church, making use of the most advanced methods and means of hermeneutics, as for example the method of contextualization, historicizing, or the variety of languages and ways of expression or the same psychology author, seeks to highlight any good intentions or good faith of the author, thus exonerating evidence least heresy “formal”, that is, guilty and to admit only one '”heresy material”, unconscious and involuntary, that saves the innocence of the author.
Martin Luther affixes 95 theses on the church door in Wittenberg. Perhaps no one had ever explained that the door of the church is “Christ brings salvation” e “leads the flock“, if he had learned, would try another place to drive nails and heresies …
You can not admit instead that the Church is wronginterpreting the thought of an author, so as to convict him wrongly for heresy. The goddess then certain false ecumenists, according to which the Council of Trent would not understand Luther is absolutely false and the attempt to present it as a Catholic is not understood well because absolutely lost, after five centuries of studies most learned and numerous interventions of the Magisterium concerning him.
Ecumenism desired by the Council is certainly a blessing and a gift of the Holy Spirit, as agreement between Catholics and Protestants in the truths that were common; but let's not make the Trojan horse to let the heresies of Luther in the Church, this would no longer be the Holy Spirit, Demon ma. And we already have evidence of the confusion created by the modernists, which, as already observed in the St. Pius X Pascendi Dominici Gregis, students are Protestants [see our previous articles WHO, WHO].If anything, are these false ecumenists, who have not understood neither Luther nor the Council of Trent. But they are causing a serious damage, as they prevent the authority that today we remember the heresies of Luther. But if circulate as circulating heresies Lutheran, in disguise, without the authority intervenes, the fact remains that they continue heresies; However, it is conceivable that in certain cases the inaction of authority is motivated by valid reasons, such an opportunity or avoid a greater evil and therefore also less noble reasons, such as negligence or human respect.
seated judges of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura
Considering the content heretical or supposed such or para-heretical,necessary to determine the amount or extent or the weight of the error, to what degree of authority of the Church opposes it, than you away from the truth, the damage it causes, those that traditionally are called “theological notes”. The alleged error is opposed to a dogma or only to a doctrine of the Church or only a theological opinion?When satisfied that the magnitude of the error, must first groped to persuade the heretic face to face, as required by the Gospel. The public denunciation of error should be done only if the heretic refuses correction and if his heresy seduces many. For a small blaze may suffice two buckets of water. But for a fire, you have to call the fire department. This is why Christ says, if your brother does not listen in private conversation or in dealing with the thing between two or three, be given to the Church [cf. LC 17, 1-4; Mt 18, 15-17].
Heresy is not just a contrary opinionthat does not affect the unity of the faith, but instead it corrupts the faith. Woe to treated as a heretic who simply has a contrary or different! But woe to let it go heresies that send perishing souls under the pretext of freedom of thought or theological pluralism!Theological certainty and assurance of faith are two different things. Today we tend to reduce everything to opinion, the certitudes of faith: because of this, if someone falls into heresy, you think that simply has a different opinion. You do not give weight to the fact that a certain modernism and a certain reactionary traditionalism are heresies. Or the opposite occurs: those who think differently from me is a heretic. Must recover the objective criteria for evaluations and not get carried away with prejudices, by emotion and partisanship. Otherwise, that Catholics, that “universal” are, if everyone wants to pull the sacred name of a Catholic on his side?
to err is human, but to persevere is diabolical
Necessary to distinguish the error in the theological or exegetical heresy. The theologian and exegete deal some of the doctrine of faith or the Church, but by their science, which certainly is founded on principles of faith and dogma; but theology and exegesis build their knowledge by putting in place and using methods and cognitive methods elaborated by reason. This involves the fact that the reason, being fallible, can not go wrong in two ways: or within his own proceed, and then we have the error; or as the reason interprets the truth of faith, the biblical data or dogmatic, and then we have the heresy. If for example an exegete is wrong nell'ubicare a city or in interpreting the nature of a musical instrument of the Old Testament, without this explicit about the Doctrine of the Faith, this is a simple mistake exegetical. If were to say that the Angerli in Scripture are merely symbolic characters and fantastic, it is clear that would fall into heresy.
And so too, if a theologian prefer to divide the body into finite and infinite being rather than in the body for essence and entity for participation, this does not compromise the Doctrine of the Faith. But if it were to resolve the human person in the relationship, would endanger the dogma of the Holy Trinity, for which only the divine person is subsisting relationship. And if it falls into heresy formally and directly, falls indirectly and consequently (next proposition heresy).
Heresy is properly a thesis rebellious to the doctrine of the Churchinfallible interpreter of the Word of God. But there is an error against faith even more serious, the maximum degree of the error: blasphemy, which is the verbal insult to the same Word of God, ie to God, to Christ and his teaching, with the attribution to God or Christ of derogatory epithets or attributes, offensive and insulting. Blasphemy, in practice, especially liturgical and sacramental, corresponds sacrilege or impiety.
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Therefore, is given four degrees of authority in the Doctrine of the Faith and for consideration of rebellion to the truth of faith: the maximum degree is the Word of God, which opposes the blasphemy. Below the Word of God, that comes out of the same mouth of Christ, Then there are the teachings of the Church: the highest level is the dogma definit (from the throne), object of the Extraordinary Magisterium (Pope and Council) and solemn definition (faith belief).
Under the doctrine is the doctrine close to the faith, object of the simple and ordinary Magisterium (the Pope with bishops around the world); contains the truth logically connected, inferred or assumed, al dogma (Faith held). At this degree opposes the doctrine next heresy. At the lowest level we have the simple authentic Magisterium, which is always faith, but what the Church deduced or derived from his own doctrine. And so too is infallible, However, it was responsible for the religious submission of will. The opposite error is disobedience to the Magisterium of the Church.
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
Who today is concerned or interested in heresies, those who try to locate them and correct them, those who express opinions on them, those allegations formula, reliefs or notes of heresy; the only limit to talk seriously about heresies than those of the first centuries, is often frowned upon especially in environments modernists. We see immediately in him with some irony or discomfort the witch hunter, Cerberus inexorable, the aggressor windmills, a pathetic remnant of the past, the eager pursuer of ghosts, the surplus of the Inquisition, the mind incapable rigid elasticity or ductility, the narrow mind of those who see the enemy in different, the traditionalist retrograde, the arrogant and intolerant without mercy, closed in their outdated ideas, envious of those who succeed, the pedant who seeks nit, the Pharisee who pretends to judge others, he who seeks to dominate consciences, the aspiring bishop shearer's flock.
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In the name of a misunderstood ecumenism,of a false religious freedom, and a comprehensive dialogue, we have lost the awareness of the universality of the objective truth as well vital common. We are still sensitive, thank God, the sophistication of the food, the danger of epidemics, counterfeiting of currency, rightly together we seek to remedy these evils, aware of their objectivity. But when it comes to ideas, of doctrines, intelligible content, truth of reason or faith, here appear the monster nice subjectivism and relativism and thus the indifference to the dangers our and other.
an interesting work of St. Thomas Aquinas [see WHO]
How much awareness instead had the medieval Christendomof the damage done to all heresy. Not for nothing was spoken of “over heretics”. And St. Thomas did not hesitate to compare precisely the falsification of the faith for the counterfeiting of currency. What sense of the weight of spiritual realities in better or worse! Which vivid perception of the importance of faith in our lives! What consciousness of faith as a common good! There is much talk of truth and faith. And this certainly goes well. But there is little talk or do not know how to speak in due heresy. We have not yet released by the ghosts of the past, that weigh on this fateful word. Some may wish to remove it from the vocabulary; but it is wrong. The Church still uses it and will always use. It is to learn or relearn to use it. Indeed, it is most desirable that the Church organizes research centers, data collection, and care of heresies, as well as in the medical field, there are powerful organizations and structures that study and solve problems as a team and scientifically health.
pictorial representation of the retraction of the heretic before the Supreme Pontiff
Why would we notice the most flattering advances, with the presence of highly specialized personnel, in the care of the physical health, for which there are many structures, such seriousness and competence, while in the field of spiritual life and in particular the problems concerning the truth and its counterfeits seems to reign indifference, amateurism, backwardness and carelessness? Not only to the Holy See and in large academic institutions, but in every diocese, in every parish, in every religious institute, cultural center in every Catholic layman should exist offices and services well supplied, to help the faithful to discern and defend themselves or to defend others from the poison of heresy. The time has come to speak of heresy seriously, with serenity, with objectivity, responsibly, with pastoralità, in a climate of fraternal charity and service, without ironies, without anxiety and without hysteria, a powder’ as the doctor speaks of influenza or measles vaccine.
heresies and heretics modern: the schismatic bishop Marcel Lefebvre consecrated four bishops illicitly in disobedience to Rome, declared by him “fallen into apostasy” because of “heretical doctrines” of Vatican II [view movies WHOe WHO]
Sure heresy is a serious matter, but precisely because this, should be incorporated to talk seriously, calm and informed basis, without leaving it in the hands of seven or extremists, that disqualify and distort the meaning, use it to devour each other and to affirm a petty domination on the conscience of others. Operate against heresy for the victory of truth and then for the salvation of souls, is not a trivial matter.
We need a strong equipment not only cultural, but also spiritual, why, in addition to having to fight against ignorance, the malice and stupidity human, it is also to meet the dangers of the father of lies; from that back very advisable, if not necessary, recourse to the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary, winner of all heresies.
Varazze, 6 March 2015
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RESPONSE TO AN ARTICLE OF MARY GUARINI: «CONVERTED AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL»
[…] the provisions of S.It is. Mons. Marcello Semeraro, Bishop of the Diocese of Albano Laziale Suburbicarian, attendance at relatively faithful to the Society of St. Pius X, are fully legitimate and understandable, then his "Incoming"Not" improper, unfounded and unsustainable ", quite the opposite, it is only right.
Cardinal Jozef Tomko puts ashes on the head of the Supreme Pontiff Francis.
Dear Mrs. Maria Guarini,
we can not but answer the merits on its subjective interpretation about why Monsignor Antonio Livi has left our association. We would then point out in response to what she wrote in her blog very well known and followed [see WHO], that the note of heresy to the criticisms made by the Bishop Marcel Lefebvre to the doctrines of Vatican II can be seen easily by the statements made by Blessed Pope Paul VI, by the Holy Father John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI, all reported recently in an article by Ariel S. Levi Gualdo on our online magazine The Island of Patmos [see WHO].
For which reason this, the provisions of S.It is. Mons. Marcello Semeraro,Bishop of the Diocese of Albano Laziale Suburbicarian, relatively attendance at Catholic faithful to the Society of St. Pius X, are fully legitimate and understandable, then his "Incoming" it is not "improper, unfounded and unsustainable», as she asserts, quite the opposite, it is only right.
As for the expression 'readmission to the Church» used by the Bishop of Albano Laziale and about which she questionnaire improperly on the ecclesial, canonical and pastoral, we do this that it is justified by the fact which is addressed in a consistent and relevant to Catholics who have left the Church communion with the Roman Pontiff.
Therefore, she makes the comparison with non-Catholics,of which speaks Reintegratio, can not stand at all standing. It is stated there, to n. 4 [see WHO], that non-Catholics should be "fully incorporated in the Catholic Church». This is different. Indeed, there is a difference of expressions motivated by the fact that, while Lefebvre wereCatholics, who dropped out of ecclesial communion, non-Catholics of whom speak this document on ecumenism, I'm born non-Catholics, and must therefore not return ma enter in the Roman Church.
The fact that prelates have recently had contact with Lefebvre is cause for sincere satisfaction for every good Catholic and shows the thoughtful maternity of the Catholic Church toward these scattered children that for now they continue to persevere in error; but these contacts that should never be interpreted as meaning that Rome has resigned to endorse the heresies of the Fraternity of St. Pius X.
With all the most sincere good we feel obliged to urge finallyto abandon the road that has taken. His continuous, punctilious and wrong questioning the legitimacy of the doctrines of the Second Vatican Council and the Magisterium of the Church of the last fifty years; his offer space and sounding board to hundreds of comments “Catholics” imbued with hatred in forms that often insulting despise the Authority of the Church and the Roman Pontiff, goes first serious damage to the health of his soul and, through it, to many other souls who can assimilate and pursue such right way similar serious errors and deviations from the Roman Catholic Apostolic Faith.
In this time of great reflection and purification of Lent please ponder the serious responsibilities that she followed to take persevering in error and inducing error also other souls. It is a strong appeal to this which is charging, with serious risks to the health of his soul that one day will be called before the judgment of God.
At the beginning of this Lent, imposing ashes on the heads of the faithful, we priests have pronounced upon them the sentence: «Get converted and believe in the Gospel». Therefore cease to believe only the reasons for herself, begin to truly believe the Gospel and to serve as soon as the Holy Church of God in truth and justice, does not continue as it is doing to fight against the Church, his doctrine and his teaching in the name of his subjective idea of Church. His subjective idea of the Church is not the Church of Christ, him express knowledge and belief, but above him express in a tone of supplication as pastors responsible for the sacrament of grace to the care of God's people, for the good and for the salvation of his soul and the many souls through it can fall into the abyss of the error, obstinately persevering in which you could run the serious risk of surrender freely to hell fire.
Where Peter, Church was there.
Giovanni Cavalcoli, ON – Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo
the Island of Patmos, 4 March 2015
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"Dear Fathers of’Patmos Island, sometimes it seems that in our churches the liturgical chaos reigns: Fair dialogate, prayers of the faithful "spontaneous" embarrassing, words of the missal changed at will of the celebrant, chants inappropriate, clapping and dancing, Women who go up to the altar during the celebrations as if he were master. I recently read an article that provides answers through a Dominican theologian, Father Thomas Calmel. I'm impressed and I would like to know what this writing is true, then ask yourself: “The Mass of Paul VI, is really valid?”» [Chiara caön, reader of Trento]
Ariel S. Levi Gualdo during solemn vespers
Dear Father Giovanni.
A reader of Trento sent us an article that appeared on the site Second Vatican Council in which a journalist returns to extract some parts of the thought of Father Roger Thomas Calmel OP [1914-1975] which supports the thesis misleading on the celebration of the Mass according to the Missal of Paul VI [see WHOfull article]. Since the subject of the application revolves around a Dominican brother your, please to offer you answer to the question of our reader.
The task with The Island of Patmos we set is to make ecclesial and pastoral theology at a time of great delicacy that sees many of our faithful increasingly disoriented, as evidence the question raised by this reader that such disorientation is paradigm, because many are the letters that arrive more or less similar to the mail the editorial department.
In some of my previous articles I used irony and a certain vehemence toward some commentators that are not just a "minority” Of “noisy dissatisfied "which does not give much weight, but sowers of errors veiled behind the reassuring defense deposit of credit, until funger often a point of reference for many lost, unable to grasp in some bad teachers the drama of the "blind guides" that "filter out the gnat and swallow the camel" [cf. Mt 23, 24].
In countering certain errorsit imposes on our consciences priestly duty of balance and prudence summarized through the famous phrase: "You can not throw the baby out with the bathwater", because even in the wrong locations, or those who sometimes carry out in good faith, there may still be good. The essay fable of the baby and the dirty water leads me however to fear the danger of falling into another trap: even Arius and Pelagius was of good. The first was a man of faith, the second a pious ascetic, both theologians refined to the point that against the first One bothered Sant'Atanasio, against the second St. Augustine, which never would have lost their precious time with the little heretic village. And to the present day: Was not, Bishop Marcel Lefebvre, a man of deep piety; an extraordinary missionary in Senegal formed good priests creating excellent results in early local bishops?
To judge this thing quite delicate look for the good nell'errante and the positive elements of union nell'eterodossia, because if this act is not utmost prudence and respect of the deposit of faith and the teaching of the Church is not ironclad, you may run the risk of dragging in our house the worst heresies behind pretexts ecumenical or interfaith dialogue, as evidenced by some decades certain academic institution within which a large number of theologians larded with modernism teach doctrines of Protestant. All this happened because often we tried the good and the common points of union with wandering up to drag us into their home even serious errors, as you yourself have stated long ago in a criticism at the thought of Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, certainly not to his worthy person [see WHO], which echoed shortly after another my analysis [see WHO].
As priests and theologians we are called to exercise a ministry that involves a sacred duty that we can not escape for imperative of conscience: necessary to say to our faithful what is right and wrong. For this we use for purely pastoral valuable instrument of this online magazine, I for one do not intend to use or azzuffarmi with “adverse factions” nor for sterile polemics with those who are closed to the grace of listening, but only to serve the truth and the truth for the people that God has entrusted to us, saving, if appropriate, believers of Christ from falling into the errors of some bad teachers.
John Cavalcoli OP in the choir of her Dominican convent during the Divine Office
I answer with pleasure to the Reader in Trento saying, first, that in the field of liturgy, the Roman Pontiff, exercises his authority as high priest and supreme moderator of divine worship. He is not infallible in regulating when it organized a ceremonial or liturgical reform, which belongs to his pastoral power. It is, however, in interpreting, guard preserve intact the essence or substance of the Sacraments, because data of faith, because it touches the infallibility of his teaching office.
The immutable essence of the Mass is the following:
"Rite of worship of the New Covenant, with whom and for which, in the person of the priest celebrant in communion with the Church and in the name of the Church, Christ in the Holy Spirit offers incruentemente sacrifice Himself to the Father for the salvation of the world ".
A reform of the Mass will therefore be more or less happy, will then need another reform or recovery than we had decommissioned, but it will never alter the essence of the Mass. To suppose that the Pope to launch a Mass or heretical modernist or filoprotestante, is in turn heresy, not in reference to his pastoral power, but as a teacher of the faith, given that the Mass is a The mystery of faith. In the Mass must therefore distinguish the ceremonial ritual. The first may change and is of ecclesiastical law: the second is immutable and is of divine right.
The rules of the celebrationof the Holy Mass- The so-called ceremonial - can then change over the centuries, as the history of the liturgy. But the essence of the Mass is immutable, as well as is demonstrated by history, until the Mass new world order, beyond changes that appear at times deep, but that does not really change the substance, as I defined above.
The Pope has no power to change the substance of the Sacraments and then the essential structure of the rite of Holy Mass, substance or essence that is not difficult to single out beyond the variations of the ceremony took place in the course of history.
Ora but, the Mass new world order, was motivated by the Second Vatican Council with serious reasons known to all [Holy Council, NN. 47-58]. It certainly has an ecumenical aspect, but it is folly to say that it is pro-Protestant or infected by modernism or that it changes the traditional Mass.
The Church can give to those who want permission to celebrate only the old order- As he did with St. Pio of Pietrelcina -, which obviously remains valid; but as long as they do not do it as if it were only valid Mass this. The Church recommends and orders, ordinarily, the new world order, because pastorally is more suitable to the present situation.
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NICHI VENDOLA AND OLD QUESTION OF CRUCIFIXES IN PUBLIC PLACES
Once a week our philosopher will select a script to offer our readers a comment. Hypatia, Roman cat, he received his bachelor of philosophy at the Pontifical Lateran University under the guidance of Rev. Mons. Prof. Antonio Livi with whom he then depth studies on the philosophy of common sense. He later received his doctorate in philosophy Thomistic metaphysics at the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas under the leadership of Rev. Father Prof. Giovanni Cavalcoli. His book: "The mystery of creation in Genesis and the animals", Today is a best seller translated into 18 languages and used between the texts of study at the Pontifical Biblical Institute. In Rome, he founded an institute of consecrated lay cats for the assistance of cats poor suburbs existential with the patronage of the Cardinal Vicar and the funds of Charities Apostolic of His Holiness.
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The Lefebvrians confused with modernism, which is also present in Catholicism today, that healthy progressivism in doctrine and Christian life, which was promoted by the Council, that can make us talk about a healthy progressivism. A bad traditionalism stop the march of history, does not include the value of the new, mummification the perennial, confuses the unchanging with the inaction, the firmness with stiffness, the solid with petrified, the store with conservatism, loyalty with backwardness, progress with subversion and, to be steadfast in the past, is not capable of grasping the values and problems of the present and the hopes of the future.
Author John Cavalcoli OP
the Holy Pontiff Pius X
She was the famous phrase of St. Pius X, which he said, albeit in a private meeting and not in an official document, that a Catholic can not be a traditionalist. If we compare it with the attack on “traditionalists” made by Pope Bergoglio in his speech at the recent Synod of Bishops on the family, it seems that a lot of water has passed under the bridge in the Papal Magisterium.And instead, apart from the legitimate or questionable personal preferences or opinions of the two Popes, we have to make some clarifications, at the end of which, I hope, we realize that the distance to say the opposition is not as great as it might seem at first.
In fact ask ourselves what the two Popes have understood here to “love the tradition”.Which tradition? Tradition in that sense? “Love” how and how much? It should now be evident, for the Catholic Church educated and attentive to the facts of today, that the term “tradition” is understood in two different senses, so that, clarifying the respective meanings of the same term, we could be sure that the two Popes would cause data to each other.Indeed, while Pius X clearly referred to Sacred Tradition, which, together with Scripture, is a source of divine revelation guarded and infallibly interpreted by the Magisterium of the Church, Pope Francis has clearly condemned some “traditionalism”, that, bad interpreting Sacred Tradition or taking it as a pretext, denies the infallibility or the truth, or dares accuse error or possibility of error, the Magisterium of the Second Vatican Council and doctrinal, Consequently, the Magisterium which it refers, of successive Popes, until the present reigning.
If we think of the Sacred Tradition, it is obvious that a Catholic can not be that traditionalist. Indeed, it can be said in a way that all the content of the doctrine of the faith is the subject of the apostolic tradition, according to the New Testament, intended to act as a time of transmitting or preach to voice, deliver [RM 6,17; The Cor 11,23; 15, 3; II Tm 2,2; Gd 3], and content of preaching, handed over [The Cor 11,2; Ii Ts 2,15; The Tm 6,20].For Christ did not say to the apostles “write” O, as would a school teacher: “take notes”, ma: “predicate”, and in addition to hands-free, until the end of time, for then it would not exist in the modern technical means of oral communication. However, the announcement of the Word of God aloud, despite the existence today of refined and powerful communication, is still of primary importance, we would like to say almost sacramental.
the Holy Father during a homily
Consider the homily of the priest in the Mass or the word of the confessor during confession. They transmit a special grace of light linked to the sacrament, it was also a priest without academic qualifications, as a St. John Vianney or St. Pio of Pietrelcina. For this reason the Church tells us that the Mass heard on TV, as if it were just a show, does not have the same spiritual value of that listened to the physical presence of the celebrant and you can not even confess to phone, as well as Call your doctor to ask advice or help.
Jesus taught the Apostles
It is quite understandable, however, that the apostles themselves,to preserve a better memory, Then they thought of putting or writting the words of the Lord. And thus was born the New Testament, ie Scripture, which is added to that of the Old Testament, born in the same way, though not lacking circumstances, in which God commands us to write [per es. Dt 6,9; 11,20]. Even in Revelation the Lord commands to write [19,9: 21,5]. Yet the order of Christ to preach and then to transmit voice, always remains valid. And indeed, the Magisterium divinely assisted by the Holy Spirit, Magisterium, by order of Christ, has the task of preserving, to interpret and explain the data is infallibly of Tradition that of Scripture: “Who listens to you, hears me” [LC 10,16]. Therefore missed Luther to want to interpret Scripture without regard to the mediation of the Church and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre wrong to want to interpret the tradition regardless of those developments that were made by the Second Vatican Council.
AND certainly this kind of traditionalism that the Pope referred in his address to the synod. However, we must say that not every traditionalism is wrong. In fact, nothing and nobody prevents to conceive a healthy conservatism, who, without in any way reject the doctrines of the new Council correctly interpreted, try a special interest in pre-conciliar traditions still valid, especially if related to the immutability of the dogma, which could be resumed remeasured with utility for the Church of our time.
the Servant of God Dominican Tomas Tyn
The lefevriani confused with modernism - Which is also present in Catholicism today - that healthy progressivism in doctrine and Christian life, which was promoted by the Council, that can make us talk about a healthy progressivism, as for example that of a Maritains, one Spiazzi, a Ratzinger and a Congar, next to a healthy conservatism, as was that of the Servant of God Father Tomas Tyn, to which I devoted a biography, published in 2007 by Faith&Culture: “Father Tomas Tyn. A traditionalist post-conciliar” [see who], a seemingly odd title, which was not understood by all, I studied with the greatest attention and which I have not regretted it at all. It means that a healthy conservatism is not at all uncomfortable in the post-conciliar Church, ma, remembering and preserving that which can not die or mutate, gives a valuable and indispensable contribution to the good of the Church, in reciprocity with a healthy progressivism, springing from what does not pass; while conversely a bad traditionalism stop the march of history, does not include the value of the new, mummification the perennial, confuses the unchanging with the inaction, the firmness with stiffness, the solid with petrified, the store with conservatism, loyalty with backwardness, progress with subversion and, to be steadfast in the past, is not capable of grasping the values and problems of the present and the hopes of the future.
the tug of war
We wish the Holy Father, which is located in the middle of the bitter conflict of modernists and lefevriani, to be able to operate effectively, with the intercession of Mary Queen of Peace, to reconcile these two opposing parties, that are tearing apart the Church, so that the tradition and progress can dutifully work together for a healthy renewal and a healthy modernity expanding Church towards increasingly amp horizons of justice and peace.
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The lefebvrism is a disease, a cancer from which the body of the Church must be healed, and if necessary should be bombarded with chemotherapy. The Lefebvrians is not clear that the reigning Pontiff as depositary of an authority that comes directly from Christ God, while they are self-invested with an authority that comes only from their pride, for this is difficult dialogue and the search for common points with those who live in such closed, proud and determined in their error.
Author Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo
"True theology does not pretend to attribute to God
what is not said, but merely explains
what he actually said "
[Antonio Love, aphorisms]
paradigm Lefebvre in comics
In my previous article [see who] I addressed the issue of the world of Lefebvre incentrandomi on some questions and asking questions that have remained unanswered all. My wise elder brother Antonio Livi raised some reasonable concerns centered on the concept of method adopted by me and that I myself share, since it is one of those debates in which everyone can be right or wrong, depending on the angle from which you are reviewing the subject matter. As in 'Patmos Island struggles amiably, remaining united in the common cause of service to the Church and to sound Catholic doctrine - even when the approach to certain issues may be different and therefore vary according to our subjective sensitivity - we have decided to involve readers in our exchanges of views, in which only people in bad faith may read "divisions" or "struggle" exist between the three of us; because each of us responds to what he writes and signature, not for what they write and sign others.
Following the avalanche of insults that fell on me through dozens of comments placed at the end of one of our articles and have embittered Antonio Livi first [see who], I had confirmation of just how high the touchiness of certain characters which on one hand claim to qualify for the right to challenge all, by Vatican II to the Magisterium of the Church until the reigning Pontiff, But on the other have the prerogative to not be in any way challenged the merits of their doctrinal opinions that personally I can also consider peregrine. In my vocabulary all this is called pride and closing and listening to the actions of God's grace, that must operate precisely meet our listening, our freedom, then our acceptance; only then the grace forms us and transforms us into our substance.
the Riace bronzes
The questions raised in my pthe withdrawal of the article were addressed to the person to whom I therefore legitimate to raise doubts, provided that all due respect is implicit and explicit on my part. I also raised practical questions, expressing that certain foundations, news agencies, luxury magazines that cost only pagination, graphical and paper quality of an eye testa - without sales and subscriptions cover even half of half of the sun-pocket expenses - can be carried out with the manna from heaven. Not to mention sites and magazines telematics, everybody size luxury, not in eternal bill as our poor Patmos Island, well that is both beautiful graphics for both our written nothing short of exceptional, not to mention the extraordinary beauty of the fathers, three authentic Riace bronzes, just to exercise the great Christian virtue of humility and mix a little’ all with equally great virtue: the ironic humor.
Faced with this evidence, in my previous written, I did not ask where pulledro out money, I only asked for the Catholic faithful and our readers reassurance that the financial support did not come "from the far right American, nor by some wealthy Brazilian entrepreneurs, or by Europeans who got rich by magic in Brazil ». Ask similar reassurance, I think it is an attack of treason to individuals, species then if Numerio Negidio is president of a foundation and Aulus Agerio director of a magazine, namely public persons legally responsible for such as these you can also ask regard to any; nor do I think that this is not a transcendence outside of theology for which this magazine was born and to which you must follow and always will abide.
elderly embroiderer of Calitri
I believe that certain questions are not only relevant but due,especially to those who demand from their journalistic columns, from their books and their own public conferences, loyal transparency and consistency on the part of all public authorities and private, civil and religious of this world, thus implicitly boasting a virginal purity and not indifferent intentions; and this certainly can not allow it to be then discover with some crust on. Or maybe some people think that all these expensive devices made of foundations, Monthly size luxury, news agencies, magazines and telematic sites, are carried out with the offering of the poor widow in love of the Mass of St. Pius V and the pre-conciliar tradition lost? I get it: everything is held up with doilies that old granny Calitri embroiders reciting rosaries in pig Latin and to sell them to devolverne the proceeds to structures which to live, survive and organize all you have to arrange to have funds in the order of many hundreds of thousands of euro, because playing the so-called "traditionalists" is a "game" always and in itself quite expensive; and this for me, could be a serious problem of a pastoral.
The Empress Irene presided anus 772 the seventh ecumenical council, the Nicene II
Without going into the merits of what I said and affirmed, some wrote comments furious soaked insults unheard, trying to throw it on the personal and wondering who was I to raise certain issues not relevant. I complain that this is inconsistent, because in the great councils where they played the fate of the main Christological dogmas, often the debates are structured around political issues, social and economic, not coincidentally was the emperor in person - even if only formally - to preside over the councils, the seventh of which are chaired by a woman, Empress Irene. Thereby apply certain criteria of "relevance" or "no relevance" theological, you may come to invalidate the entire social doctrine of the Church, for example, stating that "not pay proper wages to the worker, considered sin that cries out to God for justice ", is a statement devoid of supports theological-logical-speculative-metaphysical, about how this political sociology or labor law, but not the theologians, task of which is to deal exclusively of other chores and speculation.
To these people I have raised questions and put questionsto which no reply had arguments have left that to act were their supporters with screams from the stadium and infamous attacks and defamatory to me direct. Neither tell me that my arguments are not theological, ecclesiological and pastoral, why use the newspaper to an avowed atheist tied since the nineties to the right and to the American Zionist Movement International, to carry out a campaign of relentless criticism of the Holy Father, for me it is a matter ecclesiological serious and not a little disturbing, because on one hand we have the modernists, the other we have some fanatics Lefebvrians quantities of food from the American ultra right and from areas far from favorable to Catholicism and the papacy. That's why I want to understand why, one part, all these subjects traditio e of the Latins San Giovanni XXIII accuse of having purged the Easter Triduum prayer on "perfidious Jews" - since the term evil, for those who know Latin and not the late nineteenth-century ecclesiastical latinetto, should be read according to the etymology of faithless, implied, in Christ - the other here is the same deal with areas related to the Zionist Movement International. Tell me: I missed something? Am I the inconsistent, or rather they are certain untouchable and not criticism that this gentlemen pretend not to see it for whatever “good” e “right” it causes, enough to have put in association with Giuliano Ferrara and his now vulgar and insolent newspaper “anti-bergogliano”?
lovable beast
To those who reproached me of having attacked individuals, I replied that it would be enough to read some of my articles to find out that not long ago expressed doubts and criticism respectful towards the Holy Father, who in one of his impromptu utterances had spoken of the Sacraments and offerings to the priests [see who]. In my article I was strict and said that not only the Holy Father spoke of what they did not know but with similar statements had created confusion among the faithful and clergy in embarrassment. None of belonging both to the so-called Lefebvrian both to those who sympathize with the modernists raised questions about what I had written. That's why today I doubt there is a perfectly legitimate: you can possibly criticize, even strictly necessary, not appropriate expressions of the Holy Father, though not certain circles Lefebvrians and their elders?
The child who tries to push the wrestler wants to portray the level of relationship that can run between Brunero Gherardini and Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo. It should however be noted that Brunero Gherardini, albeit ultra octogenarian, has features very elegant and slender figure and a slender enviable
In the long series of insults that I have rained down on him I was accused of being a nullity emerita who dares criticize as an eminent theologian Brunero Gherardini. That this old priest is an eminent theologian is true in the same extent that it is true that I am a nobody, What, however, that does not prevent me to address this critical calm elder Prato theologian of the Roman school sued for years by Lefebvrians, by sedevacantists and abusers of various term Traditio. Statement, this mine, before which one could argue: what does Gheradini? I believe - perhaps wrongly - that to put in place a cooperation in evil not enough to publish a pedagogical purpose the infamous cartoons of the journal Charlie Hebdo, To make understand, readers that they had not ever seen, the seriousness of what many had not grasped, then procacciandomi just criticism, with all the sacrosanct reasons Antonio Livi told me: "Your intentions were undoubtedly good, and you have well explained in a note at end of article, But you could avoid their inclusion in the article by John Cavalcoli ». Perhaps the same logic can be applied through the same criterion to Gherardini that allows subjects to use his person, his studies and his writings as a tool to address critical authority of an ecumenical council and all the successive popes from 1958 till today. Let me be clear, to do this is hardly Gherardini, faithful priest and theologian tirelessly to Catholic doctrine and to the Supreme Pontiff, which as such is limited only to allow his studies and writings are used for this purpose, without ever having denied or had dissociated himself from certain circles Lefebvrians who continue to exploit it without having procured to date one of his public dissent.
When these same circles tried to make use of some of my writings, you go to see how - even in legitimate criticism of me facing certain drifts ecclesial or pastoral choices perhaps not particularly happy with the Pope - I reacted with drawn sword defending the Church's Magisterium, Vatican II and the Holy Father. Not to mention the works of Gherardini granted in French publication editions of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X, with all that this may involve manipulation of the person at the level of one part, legitimate and legitimizing the other. That said it remains undisputed that Gherardini can do what he wants it to free those who want to use his works for campaigns anti-conciliarist that he does not approve of but that did not disapprove. For my part I am free to criticize her for this act, with all the grace of the case and with the estimate due to a venerable elder brother and a great theologian. And this is an issue across the theological and pastoral, based on a substance against which you can not blame me too much for lack of form, which also has its great importance to express properly the best essences of the substance itself.
Lucifer in its beauty, paintings of Roberto Ferri
Why would insolent challenge certain Lefebvrians that starting from historical criteria end up playing on the theological, beating on the authority of Peter and the criteria of his infallibility, paralyzed screens fossilized in the First Vatican Council? I could say and rebuke: but they are all scholars … educated people … People of great elegance ... So what? Maybe the devil, the unsurpassed master of sowing confusion, of doubts and divisions, looks like a goat or smelly like a farmer illiterate? It seems to me that behind the veneer of “tradition” and of “sound doctrine”, behind certain outstanding scholars there are entrepreneurs, freelancers, politicians, international associations that often have nothing to Catholic, sometimes not even a Christian. And this is precisely the paradigm eloquent man of great skill and intellect that is Giuliano Ferrara, that I rightly quoted beyond the person itself - that is to say precisely as a paradigm - asking in my previous article if by chance there was a good and a bad atheism, seen that some have torn his clothes for weeks before the Holy Father guilty of them said to have agreed to be interviewed atheist Eugenio Scalfari in a newspaper of the left, while precisely the most critical of the Holy Father feel instead of all entitled to publish articles of disagreement with the Pope in the newspaper atheist Giuliano Ferrara, but heads a right-wing newspaper. In what would, therefore, the irrelevance of my question?
Mine was therefore a pertinent question addressed to Roberto de Mattei and before which are always waiting to be answered; because for now the only response received were the insults of laborers Lefebvrian, which is not, as some would have you believe, a minority of sparse infiltrates. The subjects that I have attacked in forms in which even the most sinful priests Orbe should be defamed, make up the majority of this idyllic setting that defends the real Catholic tradition; to be the minority are the gentlemen and gentlewomen of great education, culture, thickness academic and so, used as a public face presentable, that is to say little more than four cats.
young Forza Nuova
Or to put it so sad and easy to document: you go around Italy and it is subject to higher the number of priests who warmly welcomed and fervor Motu Proprio Benedict XVI on the Missal of St. Pius V, have ceased to celebrate Mass with the old order and no longer want to hear about it. Needless to say: supporters lefevbriane defend themselves by accusing these priests and spreading falsehoods about them emeritus, talk about conspiracies and boycotts, they affirm that the priests «have been ensnared by modernist and hyper conciliarist bishops … threatened them to cut off his legs … to beat them in some country parish …». Since I myself have made the sad experience of what, I will explain now why many priests have made act of denial; and I will explain not in my name, but on behalf of many of my confreres. Many priests - and I repeat many - have ceased with regret these celebrations because they were left with the churches full of these fanatical supporters, including my brother who was even pushed because he did not want a large group of youths entered the church with the flags and symbols of Forza Nuova. So not only, my brothers, have not been enmeshed, but when several of their bishops have them requested to continue to ensure that celebration at least once a week, they replied: "If he imposes it on me out of obedience, I can't refuse". And hardly, a bishop, imposes a priest to celebrate against his will for assemblies “Original” formed by people who go to discourse before and after Mass on Popes are all anti popes heretics from 1958 following, the Vatican II council apostatic, the Missal of Paul VI on the model developed by the Lutheran Mason Annibale Bugnini and so on. But maybe, scholars of high lineage and respectable people as those who have dared to mention in my previous article, though not priests know more than me. For this we consider from now free to contradict me, but the answer to that point will no longer be my, but rather a collection made available by this our online magazine of all fed testimonies of many of my brethren scattered from Cefalu to Bolzano, so are the priests who celebrate and that for reasons of expediency pastoral ceased to celebrate with old order posted, to explain what happened to them with certain faithful, with all due respect to those lay people who have not celebrating the sacred mysteries not hesitate however to deny the concrete with blatant false and painful pastoral experiences of us priests, when our real experiences do not match their dreams ideological.
Dear Lefebvrians, watch it right this man … Weigh and just as well, why is not the meek Benedict XVI who has opened their arms in exchange for taking from you “two slaps”, this, to lend him heretic modernist from your improvident Bishop Bernard Fellay [see who], or apostate and anti pope from your fans from stadium, will not be willing to stay in it all that much … and what he does will be well done and never deserved enough on your part.
The lefebvrismo is a disease, a cancerfrom which the body of the Church must be healed, and if necessary should be bombarded with chemotherapy. The Lefebvrians is not clear that the reigning Pontiff as depositary of an authority that comes directly from Christ God, while they are self-invested with an authority that comes only from their pride. Per this is difficult to dialogue and the search for common points with those who live in such closed, proud and determined in their error. That's why I consider it intolerable that the improvident and insolent bishop of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X, Bernard Fellay, has dared to publicly ask the Holy Father Francis epitetandolo as "an authentic modernist ' [see who], perfectly aware that Pius X, through his Encyclical Sheep feeding Domici, defined modernism as the synthesis of all heresies. The Holy Father Francis is not the meek Benedict XVI who opened his arms all the way to the heretics Lefebvrians, while procacciandosi in exchange two sound slaps, given that they demand the impossible really: that the Church disavow an entire ecumenical council. The reigning Pontiff does not seem prepared to be slapped much and what it will do when the time will be well done and never earned enough by these unreasonable people, with all our support and all our praise. Why the Church, as stated Father Divo Barsotti preaching spiritual exercises to the Roman Curia in 1971 at the invitation of Blessed Paul VI: «… is the custodian of a coercive power because God has entrusted him, then you must use it ".
Having not yet acquired the science and wisdom two theologians elderly as Antonio and Giovanni Livi Cavalcoli - always assuming manage to acquire one day -, my current temperament, perhaps pastorally crude, perhaps even wrong, leads me to feel that these are our times in which you request the strength and courage of a certain radicalism Pauline free from any form of fundamentalism. But above all we need to start with an idea to familiarize painful as not easy to accept: Lefebvre perhaps are even worse than the modernists. Affirmation latter on which I know does not agree Giovanni Cavalcoli, that for this will not fail to explain his point of view that is certainly compared to my wiser and relevant. In my opinion questionable, while the modernists would like to rephrase the papacy to the specious light of their erroneous ideas of collegiality, falling into relativism dissipating; the Lefebvrians, the papacy, are showing to attack him in every way in the worst ways in the name of “vera” tradition, dell ' “bona fide” love for the Church and the historical method used to arrive at sowing doubts about the legitimacy of theological Peter that have occurred over the last sixty years and their infallibility in matters of doctrine and faith. So if on the one hand you get to relativism, the other leads to a nihilism of gnostic matrix-Pelagian. Needless to say, all this translates soon - and so the penalty sneaky - in serious doctrinal errors unfortunately taken for good because … how could some educated, educated and highly placed gentlemen, Catholics so devoted and loyal to Tradition, say the wrong things? No, some things they say because they suffer for the Church, because the love, because they want to defend it … so, if its wrong, not condanniamoli, we try to talk to them and find all possible points common …
chair of Peter
… in this game do not mean to fall for sneaky and I have taken that road that makes me in every way in solidarity with the spirit and wisdom of the two fathers of the elderly 'Patmos Island: with the Church, in the Church and in the Church, that is not our idea of subjective Church, but the Church of Christ ruled by Pietro of which we are instruments and devoted servants. And if our being priestly and theological is based on these assumptions, any divergent opinions or different way of feeling ends up leave time that is, just as we are demonstrating with these our writings.
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We do not speak of the allegations of lack of style or even blasphemy I have rained down on him for having ironically stated that it was better to read Play Boy certain books instead of misleading Cristina Siccardi, so pedestrian that false facts and historical situations to reach a doctrine adulterated, then ideological. His attempts to manipulate the figures of St. Pius X and Blessed Paul VI to legitimize the serious errors Marcel Lefebvre, would be comical if it were not tragic. We take one of the many pearls of this writer, obviously public and documented, then heard from his lips by all our readers:
"Monsignor Lefebvre was a knight without fear and without reproach with a force that was definitely not human, he acted like he could act during a Sant'Atanasio Arianism, acted as a St. Catherine of Siena, which alone has faced the Popes […] this is when Monsignor Lefebvre becomes the champion of the most important things, of the most essential, that is, a champion of faith, in the sense that defending Mass defends the faith itself […] Monsignor Lefebvre acted so much love for Jesus Christ and then for the Church and for the Pope […] Ecône was a place where you really can defend itself by bombing liberal, modernists, relativists and where it was possible to keep the Tradition ".
It was the face of these delusions fanta-Catholics I claimed to be a thing less serious and misleading reading Play Boy instead the books of some people unfortunately taken for good by many believers of Christ, although of course, a few lines later, clarifying the obvious paradox - which as such was already explicit in and of itself in my statement - I invited you not to read this magazine in which there is nothing edifying, but this was not enough to appease certain minds.
Cristina Siccardi during a conference: to his right, the theologian Brunero Gherardini, to his left, the theologian Serafino Lanzetta FI.
Faced with all this my logic and my way of acting may be contestable. But I believe that these people who always take terribly seriously, that behind their aura of formal education and gallantry sow such errors, should be taken just around a sort of duty Catholic. Because when you compare me seriously and “valid” arguments a Lefebvre to St. Athanasius of Alexandria who struggle against Arianism, as did the Siccardi pontificating at the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X, then comparing subliminally Vatican II to the Arian heresy and the Church Fathers who participated to Arian bishops; or when other much more furious declare a heretic and apostate Pontiff a whole Church from an Ecumenical Council; when an eminent theologian elected by these people in their backbone and generous dispenser of various prefaces to their books, plays on the concept of pastoral council ambiguously, though animated by all the best intentions, but for which certain ideologues Lefebvrians not take into account, inevitably you end up giving tools to these characters to finally arrive to say that the last Council of the Church is not dogmatic, but only pastoral, then remove him from authorities, after making use and abuse of Brunero Gherardini, who never claimed similar things, being a great theologian and above all a true man of God.
Giuliano Ferrara and Roberto de Mattei at a conference at the Lepanto Foundation
And before this I can only respond by inviting the people of God not to take anything into consideration and to laugh out loud on similar blunders of practices presented in a serious way as if they were genuine truth of faith. Of course, it should all be done with style and intelligence, especially when you criticize susceptible lords, scholars, noblemen and noblewomen prostrate at Lefebvrians and with an eye to the secret wrung sedevacantists; than on Correspondence Romana, Levied Christian, church&Post-Council, Mass in Latin, from The Gazette devout atheist Giuliano Ferrara, etc… insolentiscono the Roman Pontiff every day. And in the face of these facts I feel free to say that these people are to expire, not that I react to their serious doctrinal errors destituendoli foundation with sacrosanct sneer, as in my opinion we should do with all those that cover their blunders of the seriousness of that nonsense can not in itself have.
The book by Alessandro Gnocchi and the late Mario Palmaro with a preface by Giuliano Ferrara [see who], which followed their famous article: “This Pope we do not like” published in Il Foglio Giuliano Ferrara [see who]
A final example before which priests would that much more mature and wise of me, together with theologians with science much greater than mine, I would explain in what capacity you could and you should take seriously a heretical assertion of this kind, recognizing those who have uttered the aura of serious scholar, so steeped itself of ignorance and arrogance:
"What Bergoglio is demolishing even admirable energy with the Catholic Church, and I emphasize "Catholic", is in deeds and not in opinions. But I disagree with those who say that he does in the name of a Third Vatican Council undeclared and, so, the remedy is to apply correctly the Second Vatican. The disasters that led the Church to the brink of the precipice and many Catholics to lose faith are precisely the correct application of the Second Vatican: not of his spirit, but his letter. I've said it many times and I do not tire of repeating: this Church deserves this Pope. On the contrary, This Pope is the perfect expression of this Church which has less and less of a Catholic ' [full text who].
Alessandro Gnocchi
Statements like this Alessandro Gnocchi is in itself a grotesque theologically, ecclesial and historical. Grotesque thus became in this and only this for the online magazine Levied Christian - Belonging to the Lepanto Foundation - kneeling by now as a devoted handmaid to the worst heresies of Lefebvrian origin, What proved to be Gnocchi and other columnists through their writings that represent a blatant and painful denial of Catholic communion. Then there is little or nothing to talk or to look for common points with sowers and seeders of such poisons that require express severe and unacceptable judgments invalidating an entire ecumenical council, the Magisterium of the Church and the Roman Pontiffs last half century. I do not exclude, however, be mistaken for choosing to act in that spirit that I defined earlier as healthy radicalism Pauline.
Therefore, if the good soul of Massimo Troisi said: "We just have to cry ', I feel for say that before these blunders, the result of real closures and listening to the actions of God's grace, we just have to laugh. The rice is in fact healthy and effective medicine that can help us to support our good faithful ever more lost and confused, urging them not to seek answers to their questions in the books, in articles and lectures of these confused souls who are elected to masters of thought and proper Catholic opinion, and finally taking them for what they really are: comedians extraordinary as unaware of what, then rendered particularly comedians that are their biggest mistakes they take terribly seriously. Because pride, view on the other hand, has implications that are often really hilarious comedians, the only thing is that the superb, this, unfortunately does not know, because pride closes, blinds and removes any healthy Christian and want to laugh and wholesome self-irony.
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WHAT SAY THE “TRADITIONALISTS” (ABOUT THEM AND CONVICTION IN BLOCK)
My dissent against the father Ariel just about externals, while of course I agree with the complaint of ideological fanaticism and commingling policies found in traditionalist. In which area we are, But, even legitimate opinions and legitimate stances, and I can not deny my strategy theological, that is to judge only the doctrine
Author Antonio Love
the brutal murder of unarmed security guard already on the ground during the attack of terrorists to the editorial department Charlie Hebdo
In my previous article I have already expressed my dissent from the way, in my view unwise, with which my brother Ariel S. Levi Gualdo has treated the subject of blasphemous cartoons of Charlie Hebdo. [see who]. Now, perhaps abusing his patience, I go back to disassociate myself from certain aspects of his way of arguing with Italians members of militant traditionalism; they, indeed, It is not limited to legitimate and indeed necessary criticism of certain ideas but switches to heavy personal references, making the names of some publicists (book authors and editors of newspapers) and even some serious scholars. Everything in the article entitled "We are the change of an era, the Holy Father Francis is necessary to suspend judgment and proceed on the wings of faith” [see who].
Even before these recent events I had published who, on 'Patmos Island, an editorial in which - on behalf of all three editors of the magazine - precisavo one that I thought would be our doctrinal policy, and consequently our editorial line: "Why can not we tell us traditionalists but even progressives" [see who]. The essence of the speech that I made it this: when it comes to matters of faith of the Church and its correct interpretation, We can not dogmatize what is questionable, ie absolutizing what is relative, because in the end is to be put in perspective just what is absolute, that is, the truth of the dogma. As a result, The Island of Patmos should have, in my opinion, on every occasion to reaffirm the truth of the dogma and discern, among many theological opinions that are proposed, those that constitute a legitimate interpretation / application of the dogma from those that are incompatible with the dogma itself. Doing so could avoid taking positions theologically confused, such as to jeopardize the function of orientation to the truth of the dogma The Island of Patmos must have. For "theologically confused positions" I mean those that emphasize beyond measure any legitimate opinion on the Catholic doctrine, eventually take the epistemic quality (negative) of ideology.
Interview with Antonio Livi ed Correspondence Romana. Click on the image to open the video
the, calling Fondazione la mia "Apostolic Union for scientific defense of Catholic truth”, I meant precisely that it was promoting a proper scientific, ie founded on secure principles and guided by an appropriate method. Ideology is exactly the opposite of this way of interpreting the dogma, because it confuses dogma uncritically with questionable, the limited and relative human science with the absoluteness and finality of divine revelation, as it is formalized in dogma, St. Thomas considered a participation 'Knowledge of God and the saints». What forms of ideology, I mean? At these ideological positions that today in the theological debate are contrasted provocatively and I mentioned in the article title: traditionalism and progressivism.
We dell 'Isola we would had to look from appearing supporters of one of these opposing ideology, and explain to all our theological reasons for this distancing. But not passing through the criticism of certain ideas "extremist" denigration of individuals. Because individuals with an idea you never indentificano, let alone with the ideas of a political group, a current of thought. And every person has a dignity that should not be unfairly convolta in the criticism of ideas, His area or cultural environment. Nor should they be criticized, in this doctrinal background, its hypothetical intentions, much less the personal and private facts.
Ariel signigica Lion of God. Ariel's father has a characteristic, he recognized: He likes to poke fun alone …
My disagreement with ArielSo far only externals, while of course I agree with the complaint of ideological fanaticism and commingling policies found in traditionalist. In which area we are, But, even legitimate opinions and legitimate stances, and I can not deny my strategy theological, that is to judge only the doctrine (that is something to be known with sufficient certainty on the part of a believer with theological criterion), and not the conduct, especially if private, of people (given that their intentions and the complex events of their lives are never knowable properly and then do not allow anyone to make certain judgments but only more or less legitimate suspicion and speculation more or less well-founded).
Enzo Bianchi during a conference
I have been faithful to this theological strategy even when I felt compelled, for the preservation of the faith in the people of God, flatly disapprove doctrines that seemed totally incompatible with the dogma (I did it, as everybody knows, denouncing the incompatibility with faith seen in the speeches of certain public figures, including lay people as Enzo Bianchi and Vito Mancuso, Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, and as Walter Kasper, bishops like monsignor Bruno Forte, etc). In this line, I have also worked to promote the Church mutual respect among all the opinions that are compatible with the dogma, whatever the differences in its doctrinal interpretation or historical application. For this reason I refrain from judging what is not doctrine, but practice (pastoral practice, institutional, apostolic etc.), because the practice of individuals is made up of many prudent choices that the individual has to operate in the face of various concrete circumstances and must be guided, precisely, by virtue of prudence: virtues that I want to play in my own work, but about which I have no way to judge the work of others.
Liturgy according to the old order posted
in traditionalist There are opinions and are also recognized legitimate. Let me explain: If the "area" or "current" you can talk, it is because the different actors have in common a certain ideological approach, which consists in considering illegitimate (totally or in part) the teaching of Vatican Council II, because it would have welcomed (totally or in part) instances ideology opposite, that of progressivism or modernism. Hence hermeneutics of Vatican II as a radical "break" with the Tradition, particularly with the decrees of the Council of Trent and Vatican I, with the condemnation of theological modernism by Saint Pius X and the condemnation of "new theology"By Pius XII. From here also the rejection in block of the entire post-conciliar theology and the constant reference to the sole pre-reconcile theology. From there the fact to consider doctrinally and pastorally unacceptable reforms introduced by Vatican II in the Church's life, beginning with the liturgical reform, with the consequent attachment to The old order, considered the only valid way of celebrating the Eucharist. From here finally the systematic critique of the pastoral decisions of the popes of the post-conciliar (Blessed Paul VI, St. John Paul II, Benedict XVI and especially the current pope, Francesco), considered deleterious effects of the conciliar reforms.
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
The most extreme positions,in this sense, are those represented by the followers of Archbishop. Marcel- Francois Lefebvre, some of whom come to speak of "vacant" and "Church apostate". Evidently, these extreme positions are not made their, all together, by all the representatives of the Catholic traditionalism, because among them there are also serious and balanced scholars, whose ideas - taken one by one - can and should be appreciated, although not necessarily shared, as valid and legitimate interpretations of Catholic dogma and history of the Church. It is a question of objectively respectable theological opinions, and I, When the opportunity presents itself, I find it quite right to respect them, and sometimes also to express my appreciation. And to those who work with me I suggest you do the same, ie respect these objectively respectable theological opinions. Respect them - I clarify – not for the impersonal context (socio-cultural) ideology which is their humus, but in the personal context of righteous arguments of those who propose.
a valuable historical work of Roberto de Mattei
I do a first example, so to further clarify This my criterion. The historical research of Roberto de Mattei on Vatican II are in themselves - regardless of ideological use that they can do - a record that has a great scientific value. I do not share his interest in pursuing the Council as an "event", because I'm interested in the Council as the Magisterium, regardless of how the conciliar documents have been developed in the committees and voted on in the classroom; but that does not stop me from reading his works without bias and to draw useful indications for the hermeneutic of the Council, that papa Ratzinger leads to recognition in Vatican II a "renewal in continuity of the one subject Church". I not even completely share his strategy of intervention of Catholics in social life in defense of "non-negotiable principles": but I know well that some initiative in civil society must indeed be taken, and my mistrust of the use of certain means (the inevitable mingling with political issues) does not take away my full sharing of ends. This is why not just believe that you find fault in 'Patmos Island without distinguishing between its historiographical considerations (which fall within the limits of legitimate freedom of opinion of Catholics) and its cultural and socio-political (the expediency of which does not touch us of 'Patmos Island to judge).
Anthology of writings by Piero Vassallo Levied Christian
As another example,. Piero Vassallo Genovese is a cultured intellectual, good knowledge of the history of modern philosophy, and he and I are in agreement there on the validity of the "philosophy of common sense" and the critical idealism of theology; why should I refuse his friendship as manifested, when he is dealing with matters unrelated to theology, sympathies for the political right? In addition to not talk (neither good nor bad) political conviction, I should also point to it to public contempt? And what theological argument I should come up to attack? I should perhaps say that the Catholic morals forbids to have sympathies for the right? But the view that we must necessarily be left to be a good Catholic has no theological foundation: It is the classic view of "fundamentalist" (that can be right-wing Catholics, m also left Catholics: just think of the theorists of "political theology" or "liberation theology").
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The "fundamentalists" are theologically astray,because they ignore the complexity of policy issues and the area of freedom that the Church gives to the faithful in the choice of means to operate the necessary "mediation" between the principles of social ethics and the concrete possibility of promoting the common good in the historical contingency. I do so I must limit myself to theological considerations, reminding everyone that in politics there are no dogmas, and the real dogma, what is the basis of Catholic morality, does not oblige the faithful to any contingent political option. The principles of moral theology (and the Church's social doctrine is a chapter of moral theology, said St. John Paul II) indicate the criteria that the conscience of the faithful must follow, applying them with freedom and personal responsibility to concrete historical circumstances in which it has to operate.
the eminent theologian of the Roman school Brunero Gherardini
A third example is that of Brunero Gherardini, theologian of the Lateran and exponent of what was once the famous "Roman School", to which progressives wanted to inflict damnation of memory. Traditionalists however exalted Gherardini because he put at the center of theological discussion of the post-conciliar precisely the notion of "Tradition", without, however, fully understand in its complexity epistemica. I think I've fully understood and not convince me at all (He knows this because we hang out amicably for many years and we exchange opinions on many topics), but nonetheless I recommend to everyone the study of his texts, full of good doctrine and deep piety. In one of them his lyrics he concludes his analysis of the doctrinal documents of Vatican II detecting in some cases the ambiguity: ambiguity as to enable progressive false and tendentious interpretations, justifying their "hermeneutic of discontinuity", namely the argument that the Vatican II would mark a radical rupture with Tradition. But what is the consequence that Gherardini draws from his analysis? Do not indiscriminate rejection of the Council's teachings but rather a respectful and heartfelt appeal to the supreme authority of the Magisterium, dad, to make provision in the way that he believes should be made clear in which direction those ambiguous propositions can and should be interpreted in continuity with the previous magisterium. I thought it right and proper to join this public plea to the Pope, although personally I have always thought that the problem of the ambiguity contained in some Council texts should be solved with the hermeneutical criterion of "analogy fidei", ie assuming that the Church of Christ - only subject permanent in the changing historical circumstances – He never intended to contradict, so that in the intentions of the teaching Church every evolution of dogma is always substantially harmony with Tradition (it is a "homogeneous evolution", as Marin Sola said).
And I could give many other examples, but these are enough. And new dell 'Patmos Island indiscriminately we condemn individuals of a certain ideological area, without saving the objectively positive aspects of their theoretical proposals, we do too ideological operation, and so our work of public theological orientation is to be severely limited.
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