ON THE SO-CALLED TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC AND ON THE MASS TRADITIONAL

To want to stop at 1962 and want to block everything before the Council, as if it had not happened or had led the Church astray, not be a true traditional, is not consistent faithfulness and steadfastness in the truth, a freeze but a living organism, is to prevent the progress of the Church, backwardness is stubborn and arrogant disobedience to the Church advances in history, is a trick of the devil that leads to destruction.

John Cavalcoli OP

With a note posthumous inserted down the author 27.03.2015

a group of “traditional Catholics”

Is coming into use expression which on closer creates difficulties and appears equivocal, not to say that it is wrong and dangerous: Catholics “traditional”, expression seemingly harmless, perhaps even beautiful. It may seem too right, timely and appropriate, obviously equipped, for those who use it for themselves and spread, a positive sense, as if to say: Catholics faithful to Sacred Tradition.

An expression apparently clarifying but which in reality, I argue,, creates confusion and can, beyond good intentions, open a window to lefevrismo. Because of this, after all, I think it's better not to use it or not use it at least in the sense that I will explain.

In this regard, I propose the following observations.

the Holy Pontiff Pius X

Before. Being traditional, as already taught St. Pius X, is a feature of the Catholic as such, because the doctrine of faith arises from the confluence of the Holy Scripture with tradition. Enters the definition of being a Catholic. Because of this, the talk of the traditional Catholic is not that a tautology, say the same of the same, is like saying that the horse is the horse. Or at best is an enunciation of the principle of identity, also known children. Beautiful discovery!

Being traditional enters into the very essence of being a Catholic, as well as belonging to the race horse belongs to the essence of the horse. In this sense, a Catholic who is not traditional, not a Catholic. As well as a horse that is not equine is not a horse. Therefore, who qualifies as a traditional Catholic, seems to say: “We yes, that we are the true Catholics! We just we are!”. The Catholic nontraditional, so, can not be a good Catholic.

It does not make sense, then - I comment - add at the end “Catholic” the adjective “traditional”, because this attribute is already implicit in the concept of a Catholic, as well as would not make sense or would be an addition useless to talk of an equine.

the Blessed Pontiff Paul VI

So too: why call Mass “traditional” only the Mass the old order? [WHO, WHO, WHO, etc. ..] Even that new world order is the traditional Mass, and the “Mass of All Time”. The Council has not changed the substance of the Mass; but has only made changes accidental and contingent, and as a substitute modes before, so one day these will be substitutes by other, without this Mass is changed in its essence.

Can not tell these people myopic the substance give it damn it [cf. our previous articles WHO, WHO]? The liturgical reform has just introduced a new rite, a new contingent of celebrating the same and identical Mass instituted by our Lord Jesus Christ. Maybe that Jesus Christ celebrated the Eucharist according to the … the old order?

Second. The talk of traditional Catholics seems to allude to the fact that there are no traditional Catholics, which then would be new or modern Catholicism. Ma, according to their reasoning, in which case this would be a false Catholic Catholic, because it is not “traditional”.

In reality, it is noted that there is prohibited the adjective “traditional” applied to the life of the spirit, going by analogy to how we express ourselves in material, as for example in the art or power. Like this, for instance, are appreciated some traditional songs or certain traditional foods, without implying contempt for the songs and modern foods. Everyone is free to choose.

traditional foods from Romagna

No restaurateur who propaganda traditional foods calls not to buy modern foods. Yet these Catholics “traditional”, for a kind of indiscriminate contempt towards modernity, seem to have this contempt for Catholics who want to be modern [see WHO, WHO, WHO, etc. ..]; and be modern - mind you - not at all mean to be “modernists”, indeed quite the opposite.

In the Church there is nothing bad that some have more sympathy for tradition and others for the renewal and progress, provided that everyone is part of Orthodoxy. But then it is not convenient to use for those who love especially the tradition, the term “traditional”, which brings up the progressives, ie those who love progress, as false Catholics, contrary to tradition and modernist. Progress is a duty; be modernists is heresy.

The Servant of God Tomas Tyn,

Better would be to retain the term “traditionalist” long been widely used, giving it in a positive and legitimate as above. I myself have written a book about the Servant of God Tomas Tyn with subtitle “Traditionalist post-conciliar” [1], alluding to the fact that there is a healthy conservatism which contrary to traditionalism lefevriano, welcomes the development of Tradition operated by the Council and by the Popes of the post-conciliar, refusing to see clearly a contradiction of the teaching of the Council than that of the pre-council.

One of the Fathers of the Island of Patmos, author of articles critical of the lefebvrismo and currents anti-conciliarists, once a week celebrates with old order posted, contributing to the preservation of the Missal of St. Pius V in accordance with the directives of the motu proprio by Benedict XVI

Third. But what is worrying is that those who have brought about this expression with pride and consider themselves traditional Catholics, express ideas in approaching dangerously lefevrismo, as they reject as anti-traditional doctrines of Vatican II and those of Popes following, believing that the true Catholicism, faithful to Tradition, it's just that kind of Catholicism, in those special forms – for example, the Tridentine rite of Mass -, that existed before the Council.

Fourth. The real traditional Catholic is that the post-conciliar. Every true Catholic, as I said, is certainly to traditional essence, but it is - and this does not seem contradictory - even the progressive, as it was for example the Maritain (not the modernist who is a heretic), but in the sense of the development work by the Council and the post-conciliar. In fact a healthy progress, such as that promoted by the Council, is nothing but a development and a better knowledge of the immutable Tradition.

another of the Fathers of the Island of Patmos for the liturgy of the hours use the Latin breviary

This is the true respect of Tradition. To want to stop at 1962 and want to block everything before the Council, as if it had not happened or had led the Church astray, not be a true traditional, is not consistent faithfulness and steadfastness in the truth, a freeze but a living organism, is to prevent the progress of the Church, backwardness is stubborn and arrogant disobedience to the Church advances in history, is a trick of the devil that leads to destruction.

Varazze, 24 March 2015

[1] Tomas Tyn, a traditionalist post-conciliar, Editions Faith&Culture, Verona 2007.

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NOTE posthumous 27.03.2015 ON THE SUBSTANCE OF THE MASS

According to her, Rabbi Ariel, for a Catholic who wants to remain faithful to the line Doctrine you should stay to listen to the "mental ruminations" two [censored] Ariel&Cavalcoli that they start debating on nothing distinguishing, for instance substance e damn it Tradition and Sacred Liturgy nalla, or would not be much more uplifting understood with certainty faithful to Catholic Doctrine Sana read, for instance, a piece of a Monk and High Priest whom Don Divo Barsotti Church on the site&Postcouncil, which disavows the "mental ruminations" duo [censored] Ariel&Cavalcoli on what they call the "damn external"? I think that any Catholic who remained the light of reason would not doubt what to answer.

[Comment posted by Gianluigi Bazzorini the 25.03.2015]

The important thing is that we all feel a single thing around the mystery of the faith, whether you prefer Novus wordsO, whether you prefer old order posted.

Giovanni Cavalcoli, ON

Varazze, 27 March 2015

The PRAISE OF HERESY Paolo Pasqualucci

[…] daily at fulfilling my duties I have the sacramental unworthy honor to announce the Word of God to the congregation, proclaiming which I never say - and like me my Venerable Brother Priests do not, including epistemologists - " From Iota Unum according Romano », nor the people of God responds: « Praise to thee Amerio ».

The text of Prof. Paul Pasqualucci to which was given the answer that follows below is readable WHO

Author
Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo

Dearest son.

The Professors chronic is a disease from which we often fail to heal and often can lead to collapse in part in tuttologia cosmic in part in the megalomania. For this I start immediately with telling her that if she had seen the blockbuster film The Ten Commandments with the splendid interpretation of Charlton Heston in the role of the patriarch Moses and Yul Brynner in the role of the Egyptian pharaoh [see WHO], this does not empower it to feel an expert in biblical sciences nor to dispense wisdom that shows you do not have the specific merit of the issues that has to deal with alleged in his article the subject of my reply, beyond its inner intentions that I can not read or judge. However, according to what she writes and expresses publicly - not least through extensive copy and paste facts on authentic texts canonical fiction taken from the writings disseminated by Lefebvrian circles - I must take note that from his lines neither good intentions nor authentic Catholic sentiments emerge.

For the mandate given to me by the Holy Church of Christ I was called through the ministerial priesthood to exercise universal paternity on believers of Christ that the Lord Jesus entrusted to Peter and the Apostles the command to feed his flock [cf. GV 21, 15-17]. We priests are the direct collaborators of the Apostles custodians of the fullness of the priesthood who have moved over us part of their sacramental power, teachers and government; and in full communion and devout obedience to our bishops are called to the exercise of the sacred ministry according to our degree sacramental.

the priest Ariel S. Levi Gualdo carried in procession to the Holy Gospel during a celebration presided over by Bishop

By exercising the sacred ministry and sacramental powers and faculty related to it for service to the Catholic Church and the People of God, in my writings I always quote the Holy Gospel; unlike her that calling into question the Lady Maria Guarini that hosted its written in your blog, part instead attack disruptive citing forward all the work Iota Of Romano Amerio.

I feel obliged to inform that every day in fulfilling my duties I have the sacramental unworthy honor to announce the Word of God to the congregation, proclaiming which I never say - and like me my Venerable Brother Priests do not, including epistemologists - «From Iota Unum according Romano», nor the people of God responds: «Praise to thee Amerio». Assembly met for the celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice, before the priest holla the Holy Gospel, one or more readers proclaim psalms and readings taken from the Book of Revelation. I can assure you that in no church reads the Denzinger during the liturgical action, nor treated narcissistic philosophical aesthetics in which proclaims that "beauty will save us', because it was the blood of the Sacrificial Lamb who washed the sin of the world [CF Jn. 1, 29], not the beauty of certain philosophers ameriani imbued with an aesthetic aesthetic that has almost the flavor of gnosis, in addition to a lack of virility languorous spiritual.

All things that please report Also Mrs. implicated in his written by her, not from me that I said to it in consciousness, for her highest good and for the salvation of his soul, what I was obliged to tell her [see WHO]; because as far as she would be offended to be one that is meant not only the liturgy but also of sola, authentic e true Catholic liturgy, remains undisputed that it is not certain this Gentildonna to celebrate the sacred mysteries in our Holy Church ordered on precise roles, within which each should stay in place and comply with what he is allowed to fulfill in the economy of salvation. Indeed, on time paradisíaco of which this like other ladies of the true "Traditio"Cry tears of nostalgia - for example under the august pontificate of the Holy Pontiff Pius X - not only, would never have been allowed to speak in their theology or liturgy, but it was not even allowed to sing in a church choir. Warns fact St. Paul the Apostle:

"As in all the churches of the saints, the women keep silence in the assembly, because they are not allowed to speak. Obey instead, as the law says. If they wish to learn something, question their husbands at home, for it is improper for a woman to speak in the meeting " [The Cor 14, 33-35].

The Apostle is not a misogynist, be clear, he intends only admonish reminding Guarini era their precise role in the economy of salvation, all in a social situation - that of the ancient city of Corinth - in which women were trying to dominate and dictate even to bishops, presbyters and deacons, invested by divine grace of a role is not granted to women, including those more or less pie, more or less expert in liturgy and theology. Therefore avoid certain ladies and Gentlemen of yelling "Traditio, Traditio! "And then take the Apostolic Tradition and the history of the Church exclusively what makes them comfortable, finally treating the priestly dignity literally fish in the face for the work of the laity “Catholics” that like her, Professor clear, yes true show deficiencies, but not on theology, which is what a lot of deep and serious, but on the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which is equally profound and serious, with all due respect for its wide copy and paste canonical fiction from the writings of the circles Lefebvrians.

I reject the accusations addressed to me of "deficiencies philosophical-theological" not because outraged, least of all because they hurt, but for the sacred respect that I have to the Bishop that I was ordained a priest and for his successor to the obedience of which are now subject filially, the first place that would never consecrated priest adult ignorant, the second would never let utter impunity errors, especially considering that my writings are read by thousands of readers and often translated into different languages ​​from the original Italian. In rejecting certain unjust and unfounded charges, I therefore do not intend to defend my dignity - which I repeat I am not interested in doing - but that of the Bishop who consecrated me a priest and that of the Bishop whose obedience I am now subject to.

I reiterate why neither my Bishop - That as the Supreme Master of the Doctrine has jurisdiction over me, so precise duties of correction and return to me - nor the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith never would marry this accusation to me revolt, I repeat that leaves me completely indifferent. If you give me ignorant but incomplete may cheer the microcosm of your gloomy Pharisees and your sad Pelagians, in that case face as well, always assuming that you are willing to lend some Catholic listening outside of your ghetto self-referential, beyond which and out of which there is the mystery of the Church with his people on the move, that far from living property, or jump like frogs always in the same puddle of water stale, lives in Christ and continues well beyond your limiting delimited and fences made of a thousand sophistries and commas weighed so paroxysmal.

The fact that she, or who inspired the substance of his writing, proclamations of a famous blog at the speck of my announced but do not try 'shortcomings philosophical-theological ", should not in any way waive its ghost writer from seeing the beam that She&Comrades brought stuck in the eye, for example its actual theological deficiencies, ecclesiological and canonical mere opinions that are not mine, but the data contained in his writings puzzling and mystifying, because structured mainly on extrapolations wildly contexts complex and articulated the previous documents of the Magisterium are antecedent to “' trembling” Vatican Council II, or shreds de-contextualized from the literature of the ancient Fathers of the Church of which she tends to do clumsy collage to produce effect on those simple - unlike me and my other brothers theologians - have not been able to devote years of their lives to studying the patristic texts in their entirety and articulated in the original Greek and Latin. All this combines sad fellowship to those who err as they were moved by the impulses of that pride that prevents them from accepting a given elementary dogmatic: the custody of the faith is entrusted to the Holy Church of Christ that worships in the figure of the Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, the living expression of his supreme guardian and guarantor being he called to confirm his brothers in faith [LC 22, 31-32]. It is therefore with loving kindness severe pastoral and doctrinal that admonish telling: who is against Peter is not against Jorge Mario Bergoglio, how she thinks and how his associates believe in fair and public heresy, but is against Christ which Peter, rock edifying of the Church [cf. Mt 16, 18-19], plays for his divine will and mandate as substitute: "He who is not with me is against me; and whoever does not gather with me, scatters " [Mt 12, 30].

To clear imperative of conscience I am required to tell her that her writings are a true repository of heresies, and soon I'll explain why: for years she rejects them publicly in the teaching of the last half-century history of the Church, it questions the authority of an Ecumenical Council whose doctrines it rejects, all with serious and unacceptable allegations of error and deviation from Catholic tradition promptly addressing all successive popes from the Chair of Peter 1958 till today. Allegations, these its, aimed particularly hard in his numerous articles precisely those Popes who have been canonized or beatified by the Holy Church of Christ: St. John XXIII, Blessed Paul VI, Saint John Paul II.

Becomingly then the shelf certain theories questionable del Vostro "divinizzato" Romano Amerio, so talented and intelligent, but so dark and devoid of confident hope, to which you recognize a "infallibility" not recognized instead to an entire ecumenical meeting; and especially this Lent picks up the four Gospels, because those and only those are the Word of God, not the Iota of this great and talented philosopher who has also produced some damage when he principiato to use your meter to make the philosophical theologian and ecclesiologist which in fact is not.

In a spirit of faith, hope and charity I will continue to pray with priestly paternity so that she and Mrs. Maria Guarini can correct you from these serious mistakes with your great responsibility spread such false truth among believers; mistakes that make you closed listening and actions of God's grace; errors poison where you are confirming with each other and urging you so evil to consider the Holy Church of Christ as the first, the worst and the greatest enemy of your distorted and erroneous idea of ​​faith and Catholic tradition, up to consider and present the Successor of Peter, supreme shepherd and guardian of deposit of credit, as a “destroyer” it's a “forger” the truths of faith; and all this make you a dangerous heretics as speaker of poisonous errors between the People of God.

This act is partly foolishness partly aberration, especially for her that in her capacity as legal philosopher assumed to be able to move so smooth on the ground of complex and delicate theological and dynamics of many complex and delicate canonical disciplines, that in the concrete facts shows, however, with his public writings do not know neither good nor thoroughly. Then take to the good “reasons” of Lefebvre who attempt to play on quibbles Byzantine-fetched and targeted primarily to alter the solar truth of the facts and the facts as they are clearly held, know that it can only lead to the brink of that Pharisaism which these subjects are natural heirs. Indeed, when the Pharisees could not deny the Lord Jesus the fact that he had healed before numerous witnesses a man blind from birth, wanting to attack anyway altered to such an extent the reality up to accuse him of having performed a miracle on Saturday, day in which it is forbidden to work, then make even miracles [GV 9, 16].

I commend you and then again to the mercy of God with a special prayer to the Holy Spirit in this fourth Sunday of Lent.

Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo - presbyter

From the island of Patmos, 15 March 2015 – Rejoice on Sunday

I came Creator

Come, Creator Spiritus,
blest!,
To fill the,
that thou hast made.

Who díceris Paraclitus,
God's gift of the highest,
VIVUS background, ignis, caritas,
and spiritalis unctio.

Your munere septiformis,
Digitus Paternae dexterae,
You Promise of the Father,
speech endow.

Kindle a light,
hearts with love,
our bodily
blest.

Guest repéllas lóngius
pacémque women prótinus;
Through you prǽviam
Each harmful.

Praise we the Father
we also know the Son,
You the Spirit
credamus omni tempore.

All glory,
and the Son, who died
Surrexit, and Paráclito,
forever and ever.

"APPLICATION OF PAUL VI is REALLY VALID»?

"Dear Fathers of’Patmos Island, sometimes it seems that in our churches the liturgical chaos reigns: Fair dialogate, prayers of the faithful "spontaneous" embarrassing, words of the missal changed at will of the celebrant, chants inappropriate, clapping and dancing, Women who go up to the altar during the celebrations as if he were master. I recently read an article that provides answers through a Dominican theologian, Father Thomas Calmel. I'm impressed and I would like to know what this writing is true, then ask yourself: “The Mass of Paul VI, is really valid?”» [Chiara caön, reader of Trento]

Ariel S. Levi Gualdo during solemn vespers

Dear Father Giovanni.

A reader of Trento sent us an article that appeared on the site Second Vatican Council in which a journalist returns to extract some parts of the thought of Father Roger Thomas Calmel OP [1914-1975] which supports the thesis misleading on the celebration of the Mass according to the Missal of Paul VI [see WHO full article]. Since the subject of the application revolves around a Dominican brother your, please to offer you answer to the question of our reader.

The task with The Island of Patmos we set is to make ecclesial and pastoral theology at a time of great delicacy that sees many of our faithful increasingly disoriented, as evidence the question raised by this reader that such disorientation is paradigm, because many are the letters that arrive more or less similar to the mail the editorial department.

In some of my previous articles I used irony and a certain vehemence toward some commentators that are not just a "minority” Of “noisy dissatisfied "which does not give much weight, but sowers of errors veiled behind the reassuring defense deposit of credit, until funger often a point of reference for many lost, unable to grasp in some bad teachers the drama of the "blind guides" that "filter out the gnat and swallow the camel" [cf. Mt 23, 24].

In countering certain errors it imposes on our consciences priestly duty of balance and prudence summarized through the famous phrase: "You can not throw the baby out with the bathwater", because even in the wrong locations, or those who sometimes carry out in good faith, there may still be good. The essay fable of the baby and the dirty water leads me however to fear the danger of falling into another trap: even Arius and Pelagius was of good. The first was a man of faith, the second a pious ascetic, both theologians refined to the point that against the first One bothered Sant'Atanasio, against the second St. Augustine, which never would have lost their precious time with the little heretic village. And to the present day: Was not, Bishop Marcel Lefebvre, a man of deep piety; an extraordinary missionary in Senegal formed good priests creating excellent results in early local bishops?

To judge this thing quite delicate look for the good nell'errante and the positive elements of union nell'eterodossia, because if this act is not utmost prudence and respect of the deposit of faith and the teaching of the Church is not ironclad, you may run the risk of dragging in our house the worst heresies behind pretexts ecumenical or interfaith dialogue, as evidenced by some decades certain academic institution within which a large number of theologians larded with modernism teach doctrines of Protestant. All this happened because often we tried the good and the common points of union with wandering up to drag us into their home even serious errors, as you yourself have stated long ago in a criticism at the thought of Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, certainly not to his worthy person [see WHO], which echoed shortly after another my analysis [see WHO].

As priests and theologians we are called to exercise a ministry that involves a sacred duty that we can not escape for imperative of conscience: necessary to say to our faithful what is right and wrong. For this we use for purely pastoral valuable instrument of this online magazine, I for one do not intend to use or azzuffarmi with “adverse factions” nor for sterile polemics with those who are closed to the grace of listening, but only to serve the truth and the truth for the people that God has entrusted to us, saving, if appropriate, believers of Christ from falling into the errors of some bad teachers.

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Replies the Dominican John Cavalcoli

John Cavalcoli OP in the choir of her Dominican convent during the Divine Office

I answer with pleasure to the Reader in Trento saying, first, that in the field of liturgy, the Roman Pontiff, exercises his authority as high priest and supreme moderator of divine worship. He is not infallible in regulating when it organized a ceremonial or liturgical reform, which belongs to his pastoral power. It is, however, in interpreting, guard preserve intact the essence or substance of the Sacraments, because data of faith, because it touches the infallibility of his teaching office.

The immutable essence of the Mass is the following:

"Rite of worship of the New Covenant, with whom and for which, in the person of the priest celebrant in communion with the Church and in the name of the Church, Christ in the Holy Spirit offers incruentemente sacrifice Himself to the Father for the salvation of the world ".

A reform of the Mass will therefore be more or less happy, will then need another reform or recovery than we had decommissioned, but it will never alter the essence of the Mass. To suppose that the Pope to launch a Mass or heretical modernist or filoprotestante, is in turn heresy, not in reference to his pastoral power, but as a teacher of the faith, given that the Mass is a The mystery of faith. In the Mass must therefore distinguish the ceremonial ritual. The first may change and is of ecclesiastical law: the second is immutable and is of divine right.

The rules of the celebration of the Holy Mass - The so-called ceremonial - can then change over the centuries, as the history of the liturgy. But the essence of the Mass is immutable, as well as is demonstrated by history, until the Mass new world order, beyond changes that appear at times deep, but that does not really change the substance, as I defined above.

The Pope has no power to change the substance of the Sacraments and then the essential structure of the rite of Holy Mass, substance or essence that is not difficult to single out beyond the variations of the ceremony took place in the course of history.

Ora but, the Mass new world order, was motivated by the Second Vatican Council with serious reasons known to all [Holy Council, NN. 47-58]. It certainly has an ecumenical aspect, but it is folly to say that it is pro-Protestant or infected by modernism or that it changes the traditional Mass.

The Church can give to those who want permission to celebrate only the old order - As he did with St. Pio of Pietrelcina -, which obviously remains valid; but as long as they do not do it as if it were only valid Mass this. The Church recommends and orders, ordinarily, the new world order, because pastorally is more suitable to the present situation.

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