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THE WONDERFUL INTERVIEW OF CARDINAL GERHARD LUDWIG MÜLLER AND THE SHADOW INDIFFERENT SILENCE OF THE PRESS “CATHOLIC” OF SYSTEM NOW REDUCED TO PRAVDA TAMBURINI OF SOVIET AND TELEKABUL

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"The primacy of the Pope is weakened by the courtiers and careerists at the papal court - the same spoken of in the sixteenth century, the noted theologian Melchior Cano - and not by those who advised the Pope with competence and responsibility".

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By analyzing to what extent printing “Cattolica” regime now resembles that of the former Soviet bloc regimes in the flood period cold War, one gets the impression of having made a sad leap backwards. Indeed, a sensational interview as the one issued by the prefect emeritus of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Gerhard L. Müller, may be passed over in silence only by adopting the same indifference with which the spoiled children revolutionar-communists of '68 were indifferent when during the famous Spring Soviet tanks invaded Prague.

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For many of these people, although registered for many years in the register of professional journalists, there is no longer even have the right and duty to chronicle. E, if they really must exercise it to launch some’ smoke and mirrors, simply hold forth on human bones found under the floor of the house adjoining the goalkeeper to the apostolic nunciature in Italy [cf. WHO], well guarding against quibble about all the skeletons that lockers Domus Sanctae Martha and can no longer even contain. While that august house they continue to prowl the likes Mons. Giovanni Battista Ricca, since the master It is so humble, but so humble, that even if wrong recklessly and coarse in choosing people, never admit a mistake, the whole, obviously, for deep humility issues.

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We offer our readers the interview the former prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a LifeSite [original text WHO], courtesy translation in Italian journalist Marco Tosatti on his personal blog a stylus assembly.

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LifeSite — The American bishops have just closed their fall meeting in Baltimore, during which they were prevented to vote on a resolution on a strategy for the involvement of bishops in cases of sexual abuse - those who have committed the abuses and those who have failed to take any measures or has covered up -, because the Vatican has told them to do so. The new guidelines would have predicted a code of conduct and the establishment of an organism to direct supervision by the laity and bishops appointed to investigate the accused of inappropriate conduct. Many Catholics in America were waiting for concrete steps, and now they are outraged. Do you think the decision was wise or believes instead that the bishops would have allowed Americans to adopt their national strategies and set up the commission, as well as they could do the French bishops the past month?

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Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller — You must make a clear distinction, on the one hand the crimes relating to sexuality and investigations conducted by the secular justice - before which all citizens are equal, therefore a valid law for the Catholic Church would be a contradiction in legal systems of modern democratic states - the other canonical procedures for clergy with which the ecclesiastical authority shall determine the sanctions to be imposed in the event of conduct that contradict diametrically l ' ethic consecrated. The Bishop exercises over all religious of his diocese within a canonical jurisdiction in some special cases it is shared with the Congregation for the Faith in Rome, which in turn operates in papal authority force. If a bishop is not fulfilling its responsibilities, It can be held to account before the Pope. Episcopal Conferences can then establish guidelines that become valuable tools in the hands of the bishops, when in their respective dioceses are to prevent or prosecute. In the midst of this American crisis we must remain lucid. Not sure we will come out by adopting rules that allow the lynching and foster a climate of suspicion spread to the entire episcopate “romano”. I do not think a solution to leave the control of the laity with the explanation that the bishops - as some believe - are not able to provide with its own strengths. Not overcome the deficiencies overthrowing the constitution hierarchical and sacramental Church. Catherine of Siena spoke with candor and tirelessly to the consciences of the Popes and Bishops, but he took his place. That's the difference with Luther, because of which we are still suffering the division of Christianity. It would be important if the US bishops' conference is to assume their responsibilities with independence and autonomy. The bishops are not employees subject to the directives of the Pope and are not even, otherwise the army, General called to absolute obedience to the supreme command. Rather they are called to take charge, together with the successor of Peter, as pastors appointed by Christ Himself, the responsibilities of the Universal Church. But they expect that Rome is at the service of unity in faith and communion of the Sacraments. This is the time to join forces to overcome the crisis, rather than to promote compromise and polarizations, so that in Rome there is no grudge against the American bishops and America people are not angry with Rome.

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— An important part of the discussion during the meeting of the Episcopal Conference of the United States was still dedicated to McCarrick scandal; how was it possible that someone like McCarrick was able to climb the summits of the American Catholic Church and be able to influence at this point Rome. What is your opinion on the case McCarrick and what the Church should learn from the existence of this web of secrecy that has surrounded a man who, practicing homosexuality, seducing seminarians who depended upon her causing authorities then in sin and, above all, abusing minors, He led a life consistently opposed to the laws of the Church?

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I don't know him so I want to refrain from judging. I hope there will soon be a canonical trial to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith that sheds light on sexual crimes committed by young seminarians. When I was Prefect of this Congregation [2012-2017] no one ever told me about this issue, probably for fear of a reaction too “rigid” on my part. The fact that McCarrick, along with his entourage and a homosexual network, He was able to wreak havoc in the church with methods analogous to those mafia, It is connected to the underestimation of the degree of moral depravity that homosexual acts between adults cause. If someone had heard in Rome to report even suspicion, He would have to investigate and assess the merits of the allegations, preventing McCarrick he was promoted to the episcopate of a diocese as important as Washington, also avoiding naming him a cardinal of the Holy Roman Church. And they were also sums were paid under the table [to prevent scandals n.d.t.] - thus admitting responsibility for crimes with young men - any reasonable person wonders how such a person could have been the Pope's adviser in the appointment of bishops. I do not know if this is true?, sure it would be necessary to clarify. A mercenary who helps to look good shepherds to the church of the Lord - this is incomprehensible. In this case, the Church should publicly report on the facts and the links between those involved, as well as on the degree of awareness on the part of the ecclesiastical authorities; We could think of at the same time an admission of responsibility for having evaluated inadequately people and situations.

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— Over the past five years have you ever heard of cases in which the then Cardinal McCarrick had been widely confidence and tasks in specific missions by the Pope or the Vatican?

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As I said, I was not aware of anything. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith was only responsible for cases of child abuse, not for adults, as if the offenses relating to sexuality committed by the clergy with another consecrated or a layman were not too serious violations of the Faith and the sanctity of the Sacraments. I have always stressed that even homosexual acts committed by religious can never be tolerated; the sexual morality of the Church can not be relativized secular acceptance of homosexuality. It must then distinguish between the conduct occasional sinful, the offense and a life spent in a perpetual state of sin.

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One of the problematic aspects of the case McCarrick is already in 2005 It is in the 2007 there were legal agreements with some victims, but the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Newark - then under Archbishop John J. Myers - did not inform the public and even their own priests. It held so essential information for those who are still working with McCarrick and trusted him. So did Cardinal Joseph Tobin when, In the 2017, He became archbishop of Newark. As far as I neither Myers nor Tobin apologized for the omissions and for betraying the trust of their priests. He thinks that the archdiocese would have to make public legal agreements, especially after 2002 when the Chart in Dallas had called for greater transparency?

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In other times, it was believed to be able to resolve complex cases quietly and discreetly. In this way the head was put in a position to continue to abuse the trust of his bishop. In today's situation, Catholics and the public have a moral right to know these facts. This is not making any accusations, but to learn from those mistakes.

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a problem of this magnitude can be solved by adopting new guidelines or is necessary in the Church a profound conversion of hearts?

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The origin of this crisis must be identified in the secularization of the Church and in the reduction of the priest to the role of an official. Ultimately it is atheism that has spread in the Church. This evil spirit says that Revelation regarding faith and morals must be adapted to the world, independent of God, so that He can not interfere in a life lived according to their own desires and their needs. Only the 5% managers were assessed as pathological pedophiles. Most of them, because of its immorality, He has deliberately stepped on the sixth commandment refusing so blasphemous to the Holy Will of God.

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What do you think of the idea of ​​establishing new canonical norms that provide for the excommunication of priests guilty of abuse?

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Excommunication is a coercive sanction that is removed as soon as the responsible repents. In the case of serious violations and offenses against the faith and unity of the Church, It should be decided on the permanent defrocking, namely the permanent prohibition to exercise the priesthood.

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The old Code of Canon Law of the 1917 provided clear penalties against priests involved in abuse and even active homosexual priests. These concrete sanctions are largely removed from the code in 1983, which it is now less accurate and does not even mention explicitly homosexual acts. In light of the serious crisis arising from abuse, He thinks that the Church should return to a more rigorous system of penalties for such cases?

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It was a disastrous mistake. sexual contacts between persons of the same sex contradict directly and fully the meaning and purpose of sexuality as established since the creation. They are the sign of inordinate desires and instincts, the broken relationship between man and his Creator with the fall in original sin. The celibate priest, and the priest married in the Eastern rite must be models for the flock, at the same time instance of redemption which also involves the body and the physical passions. Self-giving, agape, physical and spiritual to a person of the opposite sex, and not wild desire to satisfy, are the sense and purpose of sexuality. This leads to responsibility to the family and the children God gives us.

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During the recent meeting in Baltimore, Cardinal Blase Cupich stated that we must "distinguish" between consensual acts between adults and the abuse of minors, thus implying that homosexual priests with other adults would not be a major problem. How do you respond to this kind of setting?

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One can distinguish everything – even considering oneself a great intellectual – but not a grave sin that excludes the person from the Kingdom of God, at least he can not distinguish a bishop who is bound to the duty of defending the truth of the Gospel and not to exhibit the spirit of the times. It seems to be high time "that will not endure sound doctrine, ma, having itching ears they, will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, refusing to listen to the truth to turn to fairy tales " [cf. 2 Tim 4, 3].

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In his job as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith he has had the opportunity to see numerous cases of abuse by religious. It is true that the majority of the victims in these cases are male teenagers?

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Over 80% of the victims of these crimes are male teenagers. It can not be concluded that the majority of priests are prone to homosexual fornication, rather than the majority of the perpetrators have tried, deep disorder of their passions, male victims. The crime statistics tell us that most of those responsible in cases of sexual abuse are the same victims' relatives, even parents with their children. From this we can deduce that most fathers are likely to commit these crimes. We must always be careful not to generalize from specific cases, not to fall into the temptation of the slogan of the anti-clerical prejudice or.

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If this is the situation - and the study on sexual abuse conducted in Germany or John Jay Report, report similar numbers - the Church should not directly address the issue of the presence of homosexual priests?

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From my point of view, there are no men or homosexual priests. God created the human being male and female. But there may be male and female with disordered passions. Sexual union has a place only in marriage between a man and a woman. Outside there is only fornication and abuse of sexuality, and with people of the opposite sex in unnatural exacerbation of sin with the same sex. Only those who have learned to control himself meets the requirements for ordination [cf. I Tim 3, 1-7].

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At the moment there seems to be a problem in the Church, within which lacks even the consensus that active homosexual priests have a large part of responsibility in the crisis linked to abuse. Even some Vatican documents speak of "pedophilia", or 'clericalism "as the major problems. The Italian journalist Andrea Tornielli came to say that McCarrick had homosexual relations, but he exercised its power over others. Meanwhile, we who, Father James Martin eats, S.J, travels the world - also called on the world meeting of families in Ireland - to promote the idea of ​​"Catholics-LGBT"Even pretending to theorising homosexuality of some saints. This is to say that there is a strong push in the Church leading to minimize the sinful character of relations between persons of the same sex. She shares, and if shares, how do you think you could - and should - be remedied?

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This is the part of the crisis whose cause nobody wants to see, hiding with the help of rhetoric propagated by the homosexual lobby. Fornication with adolescents and adults is a mortal sin, and no human power on earth can declare it morally neutral. This is the work of the devil - against which often Papa Francesco warns - declare good sin. "Some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrines of devils, lies in hypocrisy impostors, already seared into their consciousness " [cf. I Tim 4,1]. It is indeed absurd that suddenly ecclesiastical authorities use traditional anti-clerical slogans Jacobins, Nazis and Communists to attack priests ordained in Sacramento. The priests are invested with the authority to proclaim the Gospel and administer the sacraments of Grace. If someone is abusing its jurisdiction to achieve selfish goals, that someone is not overly clerical, on the contrary, Christ is anti-clerical because it denies the possibility of working through him. Sexual abuse by clergy must therefore be called haters in the highest degree. But it is obvious - and could be denied only by those who want to be blind - that the sin against the sixth commandment of the Decalogue originate from disordered inclinations so are sins of fornication that exclude from the Kingdom of God, at least until there is repentance and atonement, and there is a firm intention to avoid such sins in the future. The attempt to obfuscate these things is a negative sign of the Church's secularization. It is thought that the world, not according to the will of God.

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At the recent Synod of youth in Rome they were able to hear voices with the same content. It instrument of Labor It used for the first time the term LGBT, while the final document stressed the need to accommodate the Church refusing to them all forms of discrimination against them. This kind of statements would not undermine the constant practice of the Church to deny permission to employ active homosexuals, for example in the role of teachers in Catholic churches?

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L'ideology LGBT It is based on a false anthropology which denies God as Creator. Because it is essentially atheistic or at most barely touches the Christian concept of God, He can have no place in Church documents. This is an example of the influence creeping atheism in the Church, responsible for over half a century of crisis. Unfortunately it continues to operate in the thinking of some shepherds which, in their naive conviction of being modern, They do not notice the poison that they themselves take each day and end with the offer to others.

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We can say today that in the hierarchy of the Catholic Church there is a powerful gay lobby ?

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I do not know because these people with me not expose. But may be you have felt complacent in the know myself away from the congregation and cases of sexual crimes, especially with young teenage boys.

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You recently revealed that during his tenure at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Pope had set up a commission which was to provide advice to the Congregation on possible sanctions against priests involved in abuse. The Commission, But, It was prone to a softer attitude towards priests involved, otherwise she would have wanted to impose, in severe cases, the defrocking, for example the case of Rev. Mauro Inzoli. Last year - when she was removed from office at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith - the magazine of the Jesuits America He revealed that "a number of cardinals had asked Francis to lift the Cardinal Müller from office because on numerous occasions had expressed disagreement, or he had detached, the position of the Pope and they saw in this office and a weakening of the papal Magisterium ". He sees a possible link between the strict criteria which she adopted in dealing with cases of abuse by religious and the cardinal group close to the Pope who would want a softer approach? If this is not the case, still he would claim that he was removed because of his firm defense of orthodoxy?

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The primacy of the Pope is weakened by the courtiers in the papal court of careerists - the same spoken of in the sixteenth century, the noted theologian Melchior Cano - and not by those who advised the Pope with competence and responsibility. While a group of cardinals accused me before the Pope on the basis of my different ideas, then the Church is not in a good situation. If they were brave and upright, They would speak with me directly; then they would have known that as bishop and cardinal, I am called to present the teaching of the Catholic Faith, not to justify the various private opinions of a Pope. His authority extends on the Faith of the Catholic Church revealed and does not include personal theological opinion or his advisers. Maybe you can accuse me of interpreting love joy Orthodox Key, but they can not say that I have strayed from the Catholic doctrine. It added the irritation you feel when you see people with no theological training to high-ranking bishops, which he felt obliged to express their gratitude to the Pope manifested a kind of childish submission. Maybe they could scroll through the pages of my book Dad, mission and mandate, whose translation in Italian and English is work in progress. Then you could discuss at an appropriate level. The teachings of the bishops and the Pope is subject to the Word of God as found in the Holy Scriptures and Tradition, and must be in His service. It is not a Catholic to believe that the Pope is a person who receives revelation directly from the Holy Spirit, and can interpret it in accordance with their wishes and the rest of the faithful should follow him blindly and silently. love joy It must absolutely agree with Revelation, we should not be the ones to have to agree with love joy, at least not in the heretical interpretations that contradict the Word of God. Sanction those who insist on an interpretation of the encyclical orthodox as any other magisterial document of Pope, it would be an abuse of power.” Only those who are in a state of grace can receive Holy Communion fruitfully. This revealed truth cannot be subverted by any earthly power and no Catholic will ever be able to believe otherwise or be forced to accept otherwise.

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In retrospect, in his role as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to which of the innovations offered to the Church he has opposed more strongly? As part of his testimony he has contributed most to its removal and the way in which it took place, not that that would offer an alternative location within the Vatican?

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I would not have opposed to any innovation or reform. Why reform means renewal in Christ, no adaptation to the world. The reasons for the non-renewal of my mandate I have never been communicated. This is unusual because normally the Pope confirms all the prefects in their positions. I do not know the possible reasons that might be envisaged without ridicule. After all you can not believe, contrary to what he believed Pope Benedict, Müller that lacks sufficient theological training, that is not Orthodox, or is negligent in prosecuting crimes against faith in cases of sexual abuse. For this it prefers to remain silent and allow the media to liberal and progressive approach the task of commenting spitefully.

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Currently some observers comparing its removal from the important position in the Vatican - certainly also due to his respectful regard to resistance love joy — with the condescending treatment received from others such as the Cardinal and McCarrick. Even today it has not been defrocked, Despite his criminal conduct. So it seems that those who have attempted to preserve the Catholic teaching on family and marriage as it has been transmitted are set aside, while those who are in favor of innovations in the field of morality, They are treated with mild or even promoted, Cupich think of the Cardinal and Father James Martin. It has a comment on this?

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Anyone can form an idea about the criteria according to which some are promoted e protetti, while others are combated and eliminated.

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Again on the merits of this apparent suppression of Orthodox religious people and the promotion of progressive representatives, Padre Ansgar Wucherpfennig S.J. just he received from the Vatican for permission to return to the position of rector of the Jesuit faculty in Frankfurt, although he supports and promotes the ordination of women and the blessing for same-sex couples. He was even asked to publish his articles about it. How do you assess this further development?

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This is an example of how the authorities of the Church of Rome are hurting themselves and how the clear competence and experience of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is sidelined. If this priest believes that the blessing of same-sex relationships is the result of the development of doctrine, and continues its work in this direction, we are faced with nothing but the presence of an atheist thought in Christianity. He does not deny the existence of God in theory, but it denies him as a source of morality, presenting the same way as a blessing rather what in the eyes of God is sin. The fact that the sacrament of Holy Orders can be reserved only for males is not the result of cultural circumstances or a positive Church law so editable. It is based in the nature of divine institution Sacramento, as well as the nature of the sacrament of marriage requires the difference between the sexes.

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From his point of view, He believes that the Catholic Church is close to reaching the control of the issue related to the proper and consistent abuse, and we have found the right solutions? If not, what do you think has been the greatest obstacle to the substantial improvement of the situation? How can the Church again become credible institution in the eyes of Catholic families?

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The entire Church, with his priests and bishops, must please God more than man. Our salvation is obedience in Faith.

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CHANGE OUR FATHER FOR WANT OF POPE, WHILE THERE IS WHO PRAY THAT OUR FATHER CHANGE THE STYLE OF GOVERNMENT OF POPE

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Faced with a moral decline and unprecedented doctrinal like the one we are experiencing, Apparently someone has found something better to do than use a word of Our father and the opening of Gloria as of of weapons of deterrence …

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…It deserves to always have a good dictionary

The Italian Episcopal Conference It established - obviously in full, total, collegial and synodal freedom of God's children -, modification of Prayer Our father in the new edition of the Roman Missal [cf. WHO], where the phrase "lead us not into temptation" becomes "not into temptation". Wanting, they could use the expression "and lead us not into temptation", But, at the “exposure” used by the Waldensian Evangelical Community, They have preferred an expression of “abandonment”, perhaps considering that ever, as in this modern age, we have abandoned ourselves. The substance, however, remains the same: the Catholics, like the Protestants, They have altered expression that is rooted in the most ancient texts, as we shall soon see. E and receive, as the seconds, both they have claimed: the return to the true origins of the texts.

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The Church Father Tertullian [Carthage 155 - Carthage 227], explains that the Our father, Prayer that the Word of God Himself taught us [cf. Mt 11, 1] "It is the synthesis of the whole Gospel". This statement should lead at least to the use of the total caution when even touch a single sigh of this.

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As for the phrase "offending" which recites: «And lead us not into temptation» [and lead us not into temptation], in speech n. 57 dedicated to the Passo del Beato Matteo Evangelista [cf. Mt 6, 9-13], the Holy Doctor of Bishop Augustine of Hippo Church is very clear and thorough in explaining that God can not do evil, however, it allows that it operates through Satan and the fallen angels with him which implement. Of course, God does not tempt anyone to sin, however, it allows the forces of evil induce Christians to fall into it. All of this, It is contained in the beginning of creation, founding premise of which they are freedom and man's free. Equally enlightening comment Our father and the phrase “offending” We were given to us by the Holy Doctor of the Church Thomas Aquinas, that tracing largely the Ipponate says:

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"God perhaps leads to evil, When do we say “Do not take us in tentation”? Reply it says that God causes evil in the sense that He permits, since because of its many previous sins subtracts the man to grace, failed which falls into sin ' [ San Tommaso Aquino, Comment on the Our Father, 6].

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…It deserves to always have a good dictionary

Before the Hipponate e dell’Aquinate, another Father of the Church, The holy bishop Cyprian of Carthage [Carthage 210 - Carthage 258], He explains that God can give power to the Devil in two ways: for our punishment, If we have sinned, or for our glorification, but if we accept the evidence. Is this, says the holy Bishop and Doctor [cf. Latin patrology of the Migne – Vol. IV (C)yprianus carthaginensis The Lord's Prayer], It was for example the case of Job: "There, everything belongs to me I will deliver; just do not keep your hand on him " [Gb 12, 1]. The Lord Himself, at the time of his passion, dice: "You would have no power over me if it had not been given you from above" [cf. GV 19, 11]. So when we pray for not enter into temptation, we remember our weakness, lest anyone consider complacently, no one become proud insolently, no one attribute the glory of his loyalty or his passion, when the Lord himself teaches us humility when he says: «Watch and pray that you enter not into temptation. The spirit is burning, but the flesh is weak " [MC 14, 38].

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Another great Father of the Church, Origene [Alexandria 185 - Threw 254], to comment on the "and lead us not into Tentazioni"Part of the Blessed Apostle Paul writing to the people of Corinth says:

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"No temptation has overtaken you that is not human; God is faithful and will not let you be tempted beyond your strength, but with the temptation will also make the way out and the strength to bear it " [ The Cor 10, 13].

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Clarifies so Origen:

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"What, then, does the command of the Savior to pray to lead us not into temptation, since God himself almost tempts us? He says Judith, addressing not only to the elders of his people, but to all who would read these words: "Remember what worked with Abraham, and how he tried Isaac, and all that happened to Jacob in Mesopotamia of Syria who was tending the flock of Laban, his mother's brother; because not as cleansed them to try their hearts, He - the Lord - that plagues amend it to those who approach him, punish us too ". Even David, when he says: "Many are the afflictions of the righteous", It confirms that this is true for all the right. The Apostle, around you, He says in Acts "so that through many tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God" [At 14, 22]» [Origene, Commentary on the Our Father].

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However it is not excluded that in the near future, a team exegetes See to it as soon as possible also to change the page of the Gospel of the Blessed Evangelist Matthew tells of the devil that tempts man Jesus in the desert [cf. Mt 4, 1-11], where the divine Son did not approach the Divine Father wondering: "And do not forsake the temptation», place that the Creator allowed Satan to induce him into temptation.

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They will then intervene biblical scholars to rewrite and update also various biblical passages in accordance with the Directive new management e according to the "epoch-making revolution" underway, seen that God tests us and strengthens us by allowing us to be tempted. We can not forget that man is immersed in temptations since its fall triggering the entry into the scene of the world and of humanity's original sin. We read in the Old texts testamentary: "Son, If you come to serve the Lord, prepared the temptation » [Sir 2,1]. But above all remember that the Church, in hardly suspect documents, since it is one of the constitutions of Vatican II, many thought the council of councils, Remember that the temptation is tied to the value of the freedom that man is the "sign of the divine image" [The joy and hope, 8].

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Another text to be corrected is surely that of the Letter to the Hebrews where the Author, taking literature of Psalms, It explains how the same men dared to groped God:

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do not harden your hearts
as in the rebellion,
the day of temptation in the wilderness,
I tried putting myself where your fathers tested,
though I had seen my works for forty years [EB 3, 8-9].

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So let's go to the oldest sources, because for half a century in this part are spectators and victims of the acts and the various "revolutions" of those who want to get back to basics. Several times I have explained in my writings that certain theologians, under the pretext of origins that actually never existed in ancient history, Instead they want to impose their modern thought. But if we want to talk of origins, then it suffices to say that the Prayer Our father, in the ancient and original Aramaic text, recital:

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…It deserves to always have a good dictionary

The phrase "offending" proclaims the exact words letter: "And lead us not into temptation".

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When the original text Our father it was translated from Aramaic to greek, to avoid loading the phrase with a long circumlocution is used only a verb meaning "lead" or "let":

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And if the greek is not an opinion, the "offending" phrase literally translated reads just: "Do not take us in tentation". (D)these two texts arises the third translation, the Latin, altogether fitting and true to the original greek text:

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Our father who art in heaven:

Hallowed be thy name;

Thy kingdom come;

Thy will be done,

As in the sky, and in the ground.

Give us this day our daily bread;

And forgive us our trespasses,

as we forgive those who trespass against us;

And lead us not into temptation,

but free nos a malo.

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…It deserves to always have a good dictionary

For the lovers of returns to basics it should be remembered that the phrase "indicted" "Do not lead us into temptation", comes from the Greek εἰσενέγκῃς, from which the faithful Latin translation induce, that the Italian language is just as faithfully translated induce. That said it is a must and ask rigor: realize the fans back to the very origins, that, these circumstances, this “mistake” Today finally corrected, It dates back to the times of the first apostolic times?

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If the patristic texts known for centuries are those currently known, If the ancient languages ​​and their faithful translations are those that are, this is when each, without being induced to any temptation, He can draw from itself its own conclusions, given that in the name of an unspecified return to basics has altered that original is such that since the Aramaic and Greek remotest origins, and that before the Latin and well before the current modern languages.

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…It deserves to always have a good dictionary

The problem perhaps lies behind this latest quarrel, I'm afraid it has little theological and much sociopolitical, all with more or less clear strategies. Or to better explain the problem: the Catholic Church is experiencing a period perhaps most tragic of its entire history. We are in a climate of great doctrinal decay from which came to life a deep moral crisis, because the moral crisis, the Church always comes from a doctrinal crisis. It goes without saying that not a day goes by now, without some bishop or priest you do not jump to the headlines almost always very serious scandals. The decadence and moral crisis, Priests from the College ended up infecting the College of Bishops, and below the College of Cardinals. Our credibility crisis ranges now between the tragic and the comic-grotesque. It is therefore strange that at a time without historical precedents as what we are experiencing, you do not find something better to do than remodel the words of Our father he was born in Gloria.

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This story recalls the story of the dictator Saddam Hussein accused of hiding arsenals of weapons of mass destruction. Those weapons were never found, But, with all the political and economic implications that followed, there have been two wars in the Gulf that have destabilized the political and economic structures. Like this, soon after, there was talk of … of weapons of deterrence.

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Faced with a moral and doctrinal decay Without precedents like the one we are experiencing, it seems that some have found nothing better to do than use a word of Our father and the opening of Gloria as of of weapons of deterrence, convinced and sure that nobody would have understood and discovered their game …

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and non eisenegkῃs us into temptation

And lead us not into temptation, but free nos a malo.

And don't lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Amen !

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the Island of Patmos, 16 November 2018

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An explanation to "lead us not into temptation," the Dominican theologian Joseph Barzaghi [to open the video click on the image]

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THE BOOK OF HOLY MASSES DE THE ISLAND OF PATMOS, WHO

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- the cogitatorio of Hypatia -

FIND THE LAST SYNOD: INSTRUCT THE Mignotte GIVE THE LICENSE OF CHASTITY TO THE NUNS OF CLAUSURA?

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During the last Synod, it seems that young people have shown themselves to such an extent disturbed by the information and criticism activities of certain sites and blogs, much to ask for the establishment of a special office certifying the Catholic websites, then giving them license authentic catholicity.

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Roman cat Hypatia

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