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Can a Roman Pontiff legitimately elected and legitimate Successor of the Blessed Apostle Peter to be deprived of the grace of state ?

16 December 2018/18 Comments/in Actuality/by father ariel

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CAN A Roman Pontiff LEGALLY ELECTED AND LEGITIMATE SUCCESSOR OF BLESSED APOSTLE PETER BE FREE OF STATE OF GRACE ?

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Dear Readers and numerous: I will never mock you, because "God has entrusted you to me ', and a father can not and should never make fun of the children who demand comfort, help and support in trial, so as not to face the ghosts of the Demons that there circling around, and that scare us a lot in this dark night.

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Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo

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the statue of St. Peter the Apostle in the homonymous Vatican Archbasilica

Right now we should treasure of the words of Cardinal Charles Journet [1891-1975] than in his work Church of the Incarnate Word explains:

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"The axiom “where the Pope is, there is the Church”, so where the Pope acts as Pope and Head of the Church; if not, or The Church is in him, neither he is in the Church ".

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I'm tired to debate unnecessarily with those who decisively and absolutely deny taking only into vague consideration the hypothesis that a Supreme Pontiff can be closed to the actions of grace of the Holy Spirit, poured on him with undoubted abundance, but that in him and through him can operate only if he accepts the gifts of grace and puts them to good use. Here, then, that these subjects scrambles their total rejection, and they react to this problem as confirming and supporting of juke box coin the chant ... 'It, But the Pope can never err when judges in the matter of doctrine and faith, it is dogma, dogma, dogma!».

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Very Serious question: but it is the grace of God that speaks and acts through him, or it is instead he acts irrespective of grace, since it is magically not defeasible in matters of doctrine and faith, It can speak infallibly although closed to the grace and out of the sanctifying grace of God? Because if we are neither before the metaphysical or before the dogmatic, But before the magic. It is in fact the magic that in itself and in itself is totally irrational, while the dogma and dogma are not irrational, They are built on rational principles, for as sure as that the Word became flesh, It has not done thinking vaporous, It became physically and rationally meat.

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Faced with these closed forms of reasoning which are the consequence of escape from reality by all those who pretend to always have a strong logical answer for everything, unless retreat into four protective formulas when the answers to be given when there are none, I repeat that we are not within either of metaphysics nor in that of the dogmatic, But part of the magic, if not worse Gnosticism. For how can the Holy Spirit, through its thanksgivings, cancel the will or no will of man, that is, his freedom and his free will, for sdoppiarlo to your liking and make it totally necessary unfailing, if its nature was not freely open to God's grace? Because if that happens, in that case God would be in contradiction with the mystery of creation and thus with himself through the Holy Spirit, and in this case our God is a magical God, a Gnostic god. Everything always to return to the great speculative minds that face problems until a few years previously unimaginable, but unfortunately real today, instead of really they close themselves up mirror in the cage of their four dogmatic formulas reiterating firm and immovable before the tragic evidence of the facts: "... it is unfailing, cannot err, it is dogma, dogma, dogma!» …

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… and here it is worth remembering that the dogmas are not cages for men claiming at one point the right not to reason, but they are as deeply reasoned heart of the mystery of faith, at least according to a great teacher of school, Sant'Anselmo d'Aosta, which he states the extent to which "faith requires the intellect and understanding the faith" [Faith seeking understanding. In Prosl., Foreword], and again: "I think to understand, I understand to believe » [I believe in order to understand, I understand that you can trust]. And these two are the main foundations of scholastic philosophy, which never, at its foundation, He has placed the magic.

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Well I confess that these arguments are tired. I'm tired of those who before a fire in a library of sacred texts destined to be lost forever, they would rush to save the book Iota Romano Amerio and the Holy Gospel burns. Like the rest are a bit 'tired in general, much to ask with some frequency: deserves continue to speculate, analyze and write, or would it be better to shut themselves up for life I have left in a Carthusian monastery with absolute silence vote, dedicating myself to prayer and penance until death? In August, a few days after the completion of my 55th birthday, as time rushes I proposed more than ever to work to good use throughout the life of this time that separates me from death, I intend to waste it or to defend the indefensible or to save the unsalvageable, least of all to expose my human and priestly dignity to public ridicule just to look in the documents of the Supreme Pontiff Francis I that he has never said and written, pulling out all the costs they have the good that if anything there, through interpretative devices that have indeed pathetic, because you can not put your mouth on the good things he did not say after doing the process to its deepest intentions …

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… and before the solutions are three all'indifendibile: reproaches and complaints of St. John the Baptist, which as we know He lost his head; the speculative analysis of the situation for what it is, however not for what we would like it; the complete withdrawal from the world and total silence vote for life. There are three different ways, but all effective to operate at its best in this disastrous situation and irreversible. For now I have chosen the first solution, the model Giovanni Battista, but I could also decide to choose the third, with perhaps even more effectively.

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The problem, It is not in fact slight: how can we, we, interpret the one who should be the guardian and authentic interpreter of the faith? Or just hurts a lot to some minds have to accept and admit that the keeper of the "magical infallibility", for five years now he has shown with its deliberate and unintentional ambiguity about nothing, It blew up in the Church, the theological and moral relativism, together with the confusion and division, as never before he had been seen in the visible Church? Is it possible that among the pundits of the great theology, not only there is one that poses a question, if anything, likely to remain unanswered, namely this: there may be a case in which a Pope, closed to the actions of the sanctifying grace of the Holy Spirit, ends up be deprived of the grace of state that is typical of his high office, if anything, with all the consequences that today we have before, all regardless of his legitimate election and the role he equally legitimately busy?

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And with this it is obvious, loved ones and many readers: I will never mock you, because "God has entrusted you to me ', and a father can not and should never make fun of the children who demand comfort, help and support in trial, so as not to face the ghosts of the Demons that there circling around, and that scare us a lot in this dark night.

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Right now our salvation is contained in the theological virtue of hope, on which I wrote abundantly in 2014 [see WHO]. Hope is the great virtue median that binds together faith and charity. And since I have been set up in the service of the People of God and entered the priesthood in the universal fatherhood, this Holy People intend to offer the way of hope, but never the way of illusion, because I am a priest of Christ, not a drug dealer of hallucinogens acids, but mainly because I consider that a Holy People of God, not a people ox which give a pat and aspirin while a terminal cancer corrodes by the time our ecclesial and ecclesiastical body, while the visible Church is already in the antechamber of a morgue reduced for the occasion to a circus of clowns, dancers and dwarfs.

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You want to know what has always saved my priesthood? Perhaps the school, I have studied and deepened; perhaps metaphysics, I have studied and deepened; perhaps St. Thomas Aquinas, I studied in depth? Well, my priesthood is not saved by these “means” effective, but still means. It was saved from my deep love for the Church, the Mystical Body, of which Christ is the Head and we are living members; It was saved by love for the Church that is born of love divine work of the Divine Heart. It is with this awareness that every day I raise the Body and Blood of Christ on the altar cheering:

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By itself, And with the, and in him

it's you, God the Father Almighty,

in the unity of the Holy Spirit,

All glory and honor

forever and ever.

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Or someone might think I would have given one day of my precious life to this poor whore the visible Church that today we have before, devastating whole operates purely human dwarf, dancers and jesters in the career Court of Miracles big Re Nudo ?

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the Island of Patmos, 16 December 2018

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This article is the last part of a revised much more articulate article published 10 September 2018 and you can find in our archives under the title: "Faced with a visible Church suffers from a doctrinal and moral decay irreversible, you must open as soon as the seed bank " [the text is readable WHO]

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18 replies
  1. Redazione de L'Isola di Patmos
    Drafting of L'Isola di Patmos says:
    4 February 2019 at 20:38

    Father Ariel was born the 19 August 1963

  2. Francesco Paolo Vatti
    Francesco Paolo Vatti says:
    4 February 2019 at 17:12

    Thanks for this article!
    As for those who oppose them papal infallibility, But I must confess that I understand it: it's difficult, For those who want to remain faithful to the Church of Rome, accept that the Pope can manage the Church badly (although it has already happened in the past). It is feared to be in error how much you are in contradiction. E’ difficult for a lay, which does not have your own theological preparation: It is a question of being in balance between the fidelity to the pope and seeing that sometimes the Gospel goes to another part (or so it seems)…
    I hope the Carthusian choice does not prevail: personally, I need to read it!
    A curiosity: I was born on 15 August, She on what day of August?

  3. Francesco Paolo Vatti
    Francesco Paolo Vatti says:
    4 February 2019 at 16:23

    Thank you, father ariel, for what he writes! But, I tell her frankly that it does not surprise me that you continue to receive objections based on papal infallibility: it's difficult, For us lay people, Understanding what is happening and finding the right balance between understanding the errors of the reigning pontiff and not to lose faith in Catholicism which has among its foundations obedience to the pope… Often, Speaking with many good Catholics, I feel like saying that certain things should not tell them out of our areas, Why, substantially, The dirty clothes are washed in the family and we must not give topics to the detractors of the Church…. I do not agree, but I cannot deny that I am put in difficulty by such statements….
    I hope he doesn't want to be a painstaking: personally, I need his clarity.
    A curiosity: On what day of August ago the years? I the 15 (but I have a year less than her).

  4. Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo
    Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo says:
    29 December 2018 at 13:32

    dear fabio,

    First of all, I state that I do not answer her by expressing personal opinions, But I answer them based on historical facts, not easy to deny, regardless of the deep pain that can cause my Catholic and priestly soul to have to admit certain truths; but hide the truth, or alter it, It would be serious before God and before the living limbs of his Holy People, which is not composed of poor beotes, as sometimes it seems that some believe.
    Therefore, before the painful truths there are two solutions: or keep silent and lock themselves in the silence of prayer and penance, or to say what is true and what is false in a strictly objective level, not subjective level, In order to first and last to exorcise our fears and inconveniences, effectively denying the obvious objective truth.

    Karl Rahner's theology is very insidious and with not indifferent elements of heterodoxy. More dangerous than he said and written, the real danger – And then he turned out to be such – It was what he said and on his often ambiguous and ambivalent writing was then developed later.

    When they launch certain seeds on the ground, then happens, unavoidably, that the fruits generated are bad, With the result that from the heterodox thought and at times very confused by Rahner, We come to the formulation of real heresies, to which his favorite pupil came first to all in order to order, the most well -kept and also the most talented of his students at the speculative level, Reverend Prof. Hans Küng, who started questioning with his essay published in early seventies the dogma of pontifical infallibility.

    As I have often complained to several theologians unnecessarily, Take it with Rahner, with its students and with the fruits from all of them products, rase at times the irrational, Seen and considered that Rahner and his theology have passed unscathed through four pontificates:

    1. The pontificate of John XXIII, canonized today;
    2. the pontificate of Paul VI, canonized today;
    3. The pontificate of John Paul II, canonized today;

    and they also passed unscathed:

    1. from the congregation for the doctrine of the faith chaired for over twenty years by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, that Karl Rahner knew him well and thoroughly and he really knew his insidious theology;
    2. From the pontificate of Benedict XVI.

    At this point I tell you: Anyone who writes books, Articles and holds conferences on the danger of Rahnerian theology, without taking into account the fact that four popes, including three saints, have omitted to:

    1. supervise the doctrine of faith;
    2. defend the truth from the error;
    3. confirm the brothers in the truth of true faith;

    they made serious and coarse errors in this sense.

    And stating this, far from light heart, I pay me on historical factual data, clear and evident, only denying those who claim to drop the dark on Rahner but totally fly over who has historical responsibility, theological and pastoral to have allowed its development and its diffusion.

    All to confirm the fact that the popes, saints included, they are defective and can make serious mistakes, except when they express themselves infallibly on issues of doctrine and faith, According to what are the rigid patterns sanctioned by the dogmatic constitution The eternal shepherd of the Vatican Council and from the subsequent document To protect the faith promulgated by John Paul II.

    The popes, saints included, they are infallible limited to subjects of doctrine and faith, but they are not indefectible, rather: Their heavy office can lead them to make much more serious errors and damage than that could ever make any bishop or presturious.

    As for the Jesuits: The Church owes a lot of gratitude to Sant’Ignazio di Loyola and the old company of Jesus, definitively died between the half and the late sixties.
    What we have under the eyes today is something else.
    However, say that “The Jesuits are heretics” it would be risky and naive. We can say that inside there is certainly an army of heretics, But we cannot say that everyone is heretics, Even if he cannot arise healthy fruits from a rotten tree, Starting from their current general preposit, repeatedly launched into unhappy and misleading statements at the doctrinal level.

  5. fabio
    fabio says:
    28 December 2018 at 20:02

    dear father ARIEL

    I would like to ask her Rahner's thought is heretic yes or no ?
    The Jesuits are heretics yes or no?
    Thank you

  6. Lorenzo
    Lorenzo says:
    28 December 2018 at 15:16

    Estimated Father Cavalcoli,

    I don't think Don Ariel wanted to understand what she understood, nor have I ever thought before “election” Papali were disabled.
    However we know well that in the past, in some cases, purely political issues played their part. This does not detract from the qualities that the Pontiffs subsequently elected have had.

    The difference I wanted to point out, Just as she wrote in a subsequent comment, He lies in the real purpose of the intentions of the San Gallo group. That is the key difference.
    Obviously we all know the end that who wants to make war to God does…

  7. Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo
    Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo says:
    27 December 2018 at 0:00

    Dear Father Giovanni,

    If it weren't fun it would be really tragic that you don't even take care of reading what I answered the reader, giving my words a totally distorted sense and detached from their meaning, until I attribute things that I have never written, Just read above my offending answer, that given to Gaetano, because the effort is really minimal.

    The whole, moreover, written and sent by you the 25 December, in the Nativity of the Lord, day on which priests and religious should be overlooked in many other things, For example to explain to the faithful the mystery of the incarnation of the verb, as was done with three different homilies also on the columns of The Island of Patmos; of the texts that have built much more the people of God than they build it instead of the matters of wool wool.

    In short, You chose just Christmas day to take ten lines, not to understand what had been written in them through the use of an evident paradox that everyone has perfectly understood, Fumento you, Finally, to make such a gift to a confrere who in four years of work on these columns has only been used to enhance your work and your writings to the maximum. To this, if you want, You can also add the fact that when in 2016 You have been involved in unpleasant issues and hard attacked, For example for the radio program on Radio Maria, when anger was unleashed for your statement on divine punishments made a few days after the earthquake in the Rieti, in front of a large series of so -called pieces by ninety of the Roman Curia and the Italian episcopate who attacked you and who publicly denied you, We did not put the tail between the legs in front of powerful codes, nor did we say "…the cavalcoli? But we don't know him!» … Far from it, We defended you on the sword trades, we didn't turn your back, nor did we criticize nor did we attack you hard, Pointing your feet as you did in this case so that your really unhappy comment was absolutely published at all costs. And I also remind you that I defend yourself at my total risk and danger. Or maybe you forget what I later paid, in the high price, for having taken the then substitute for the Secretariat of State, who denied you with theologically inappropriate topics, until resorting to the old rotten heresy, and to which for this reason I publicly called the’ "Theological donkey" and the "Pygmeo"? Or perhaps you think that the former substitute and current Cardinal Angelo Becciu as well as current prefect of the Congregation of the Causes of Saints, for that’ "Donkey" and for that "pygmeo" used in your sum defense, He made me pass it smoothly?

    However, thank you for your manifest and public gratitude and above all for your Christmas present. Repeatedly, several of your Dominican confreres, Bringing me the example of how you stubbornly gave you to give her the herthic time to your Dominican brother Giuseppe Barzaghi despite the prohibitions and complaints in this sense of your superiors, They had explained to me what your attitudes are and that you suddenly take two words, the upsets and then build us on what does not exist; And once this is done, There is no way to make you feel reasons. Unfortunately, I had never believed him, and I have always protected you. Instead known today – And I know him to love expenses – instead they were the right, I have to admit it.

    I repeat: attribute to me that they said that half of the elections to the sacred thrill would be disabled, then pretend to deny what I never said, creating issues on something that does not exist, After misunderstanding a paradox and hyperbole that everyone has perfectly understood, If it were not in and in itself comic, it would be tragic.

    Unfortunately, These ours, These are times of great ecclesial tragedies, from which none of us is unfortunately exempt, including certain Christmas gifts by those who never would have expected you.

  8. Father John Carlson
    Father John Carlson says:
    25 December 2018 at 16:08

    It was not at all a "secret society" type mafia. It would be offensive to believe it. However, It was actually a group of Cardinal Rahneriani, that, they worked secretly, without the permission of S.Giovanni Paolo II, To raise Rahnerism to the rank of official doctrine of the Church, Instead of that of San Tommaso d'Aquino.

  9. Father John Carlson
    Father John Carlson says:
    25 December 2018 at 16:06

    It is clear that the new provisions given by S.Giovanni II in 1996 invalidate previous uses, even if they were legitimate. But precisely because the said provisions did not apply before that date, they could not have a retroactive value. Those elections that were made without taking into account the new provisions of S.Giovanni Paolo II would be invalid. But there is to think that they, in the conclave of the 2013, have been respected.

  10. Father John Carlson
    Father John Carlson says:
    25 December 2018 at 15:57

    Anyone who knows the true story of the papacy and above all those who believe in Peter's charisma, does not accept what was asserted by Don Ariel. The group of San Gallo, also admitted, as it is almost certain, According to the names of those who participated in it, that it was a modernist group, He has not had and has no power to "change or distort the law of the Lord", Giacchè, as Christ promised, portae hell not praevalebunt.

  11. Father John Carlson
    Father John Carlson says:
    25 December 2018 at 15:56

    Don Ariel's statement that "we should proceed a posteriori to declare retroactively invalids the elections of at least half of the supreme popes" is historically unfounded, Mina the credibility and authority of the Papal Magisterium and creates legal empty inadmissible in the apostolic succession, that would break its continuity, All this against the trust of faith that the Catholic has in the doctrinal and moral authority of the uninterrupted series of the popes, guaranteed by the Holy Spirit and historically demonstrated, From S.Pietro to Pope Francis.
    As for the modernist group of San Gallo, It is possible that it violated the canonical rules concerning the discussion about the one who could be the best candidate for the election of the new Pope. But one thing is the validity of the election of a pope and one account are the rules that regulate the procedure.
    What is historically shown, as far as possible, and that must be believed with certainty Proxima Fidei, is that all the Popes listed in the papal annual from S.Pietro to Pope Francis have been legitimately elected and therefore are valid, As different as they have been over the centuries, the procedures e…

  12. Beppe44
    Beppe44 says:
    19 December 2018 at 16:08

    Mafia St. Gallen? or group of San Gallo? it was not a secret society (like the mafia) And the card also participated there. Martini

  13. Thursday
    Thursday says:
    18 December 2018 at 22:54

    There is a not slight difference though: Nobody had yet established that those elections were disabled, and the participants with the elected pope all excommunicated latae sententiae (or sitting). John Paul II did it in the 1996: should not be taken into account, from then on? Or pretend nothing is because it is a funny custom custom, And so wojitila definitely joked?
    Just saying…

  14. Lorenzo
    Lorenzo says:
    18 December 2018 at 11:20

    father ariel,
    Anyone who knows the history of the Church can not but agree, and repeat what you have expressed. But in the past it was pure political power games and favoritism, they would never dare to change or overturn the law of the Lord.
    What instead the so-called San Gallo Mafia had every intention of doing, It is not limited to the intrigue of the court.

  15. Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo
    Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo says:
    17 December 2018 at 22:44

    Dear Gaetano,

    Church history is ancient 2000 years and does not end in the course of recent events taken place between the 2005 and the 2018.
    When it normalized to that which was in the course of twenty centuries the history of the Church and the papacy, the so-called “Mafia St. Gallen” It should be included in the list of pious confraternities of charity and mutual aid.
    If not, instead applying the doubts she expressed and therefore her criterion, We should proceed a posteriori to declare the elections of at least half of the summary popes retroactively invalid, several of which risen to the sacred throne through simony, deceit and political blackmail, not to mention many of those pontiffs who made a cardinal beloved nephew was succeeded in turn to his uncle on the Chair of Peter …
    And so on to follow.

    To make more, Cardinal Vicar of His Holiness for the diocese of Rome, It was commonly called in the current lexicon era er Cardenal grandchild? For the simple fact that for a quite short time, The Popes, they named their own grandson vicar general placing it in that very delicate role, cosiderando species at that time, Rome, It was the capital of the State and the Pontifical vicar general of His Holiness, on a political and legal level, powers had not indifferent.

    So, For those who know the story, both recriminata “Mafia St. Gallen”, when compared to the history of the papacy, It is to be considered in the same way of the Pious Society of the Ladies of Charity of St. Vincent de’ Paoli.

  16. Gaetano2
    Gaetano2 says:
    17 December 2018 at 18:27

    “CAN A Roman Pontiff LEGALLY AND ELECTED…”
    Ma, I wonder, It can be considered “legitimately elected” who was (as publicly stated by Cardinal Daneels, and without subsequent denials) from the “St. Gallen Mafia”?

  17. Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo
    Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo says:
    17 December 2018 at 15:09

    No, it's not an answer.
    E’ just a subject matter in a different way, like: seen from the right and seen from the left.
    The dogmatic truths of faith are intangible, while the theological interpretations are different; no theological interpretation, starting from my, You can ever rise to absolute truth and dogma of faith.

  18. VALERY
    VALERY says:
    17 December 2018 at 11:43

    I misheard me or is it a response to the previous post of Father Cavalcoli?

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