“The joy of love”. Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio and the way Dominican. An article by Andrea Tornielli on the thesis carried out by the 2015 John Cavalcoli and from the island of Patmos during the Synod on the Family

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«The joy. CARDINAL FRANCESCO COCCOPALMERIO AND VIA THE DOMINICAN ". AN ARTICLE BY ANDREA TORNIELLI THESIS ON FORWARD FLOW FROM 2015 BY GIOVANNI CAVALCOLI AND THE ISLAND OF PATMOS IN THE SYNOD ON THE FAMILY

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"The conclusions comes the President of legislative texts in the book on Chapter VIII of the exhortation are in line with the views expressed by Cavalcoli theologian and Cardinal Schönborn" [Andrea Tornielli]

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Author Jorge A. Faccio Lince
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Andrea Tornielli
the Vatican correspondent of The Print, Andrea Tornielli, coordinator Vatican Insider

The Fathers de The island of Patmos, John Cavalcoli and Ariel S. Levi Gualdo, during the year 2015 They have expounded in their various articles on theological and pastoral speeches related to the Synod on the family, at the conclusion of which came out of the post-synodal apostolic exhortation love joy.

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The Vatican correspondent Andrea Tornielli He emphasizes in his article [cf. WHO] that the document published by the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts and signed by Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio, reflects when our two Fathers de The island of Patmos already they wrote in their articles almost two years ago …

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DURING THE YEAR 2015, FATHERS DE THE ISLAND OF PATMOS THEY WROTE THE VARIOUS ARTICLES OF THEOLOGY AND PASTORAL NEWS THE DEBATE OF DIVORCED REMARRIED, THAT WAS NOT AT ALL “THE THEME” THE SYNOD, BUT ONLY “ONE OF THE MANY THESE ” THE SYNOD, ALTHOUGH it CHANGED FROM THE PRESS AND ONLY in the only THEME. THIS FOLLOWING THE COLLECTION OF ARTICLES PUBLISHED BY 2 SEPTEMBER 2015 AL 9 OCTOBER 2016

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THE SYNOD ON THE FAMILY
A CRITICAL READING ON THE TRILOGY OF ARTICLES BY ANTONIO LIVI

Jorge A. Faccio Lince – 2 September 2015

[…] The feeling that the divorced and remarried are in a permanent state of grave sin "is a rash judgment, that has nothing to do with the doctrine of the Church. On the contrary, According to Catholic morality, any sin, for how severe, If the sinner repents, can be forgiven, even without the sacrament of penance, whereas there are ordinary and extraordinary means of salvation; the first are the Sacraments of divine institution of which the Church is a dispenser, the latter are inscrutable ways of God, and to use these media seconds, both the grace and mercy of God do not require permission or philosophers or epistemologi, or theologians [Click to read more WHO]

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THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS BRINGS "AN INJURY TO CHRISTIAN MARRIAGE»? COME on, TRYING TO BE SERIOUS ...

Ariel S. Levi Gualdo – 14 September 2015

During my preaching in the desert for years I have been saying that the source of the problem is the fact that sacramental marriage is granted by the bishops and their priests with a lightness that cries out for vengeance before God. Would not it be better to prevent, rather then try to cure later what is not always treatable? [Click to read more WHO]

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THE PROBLEMS PASTORAL CARE OF THE DIVORCED AND REMARRIED

John Cavalcoli, OP – 13 October 2015

At this juncture so severe for the life of the Church and society, It is necessary to avoid the two extremes opposed, the first, a small but minority biting, of ultra conservatism, with his doomsday scaremongering and its legalism rigorista, who fears that the Pope will move away from the Gospel or from Tradition, if it has not already done so; and the second, far more widespread and arrogant, what the modernists, worldly spirits, relativisti impenitenti, preachers of gooders misercordista, who would like to exploit the Pope with false flattery [Click to read more WHO]

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«COMMUNION FOR REMARRIED DOES NOT AFFECT THE DOCTRINE BUT DISCIPLINE»

interview by Andrea Tornielli John Cavalcoli, OP – 16 October 2015

The Vatican de The Print Andrea Tornielli published today on Vatican Insider the interview with one of the Fathers dell 'Patmos Island. Responding to questions, the Dominican theologian Giovanni Cavalcoli clarifies one of the debated issues and burning controversy especially outside of the Synod on the Family [Click to read more WHO]

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COMMUNION FOR DIVORCED AND REMARRIED PERSONS: LECTIO MAGISTRALIS JOHN Cavalcoli A CORRADO GNERRE & (C)

John Cavalcoli, OP – 19 October 2015

The impression that sometimes the Pope has not adhered to revelation transmitted by Sacred Tradition, is always a false impression, that should make us understand that with such mental attitude you end up falling under the rebuke of the Lord, the Pharisees did not hear the Word of the eternal God, that does not pass and not wetsuit, but to become slaves of fleeting and vain "traditions of men" [Click to read more WHO]

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ON DIVORCED AND REMARRIED. CONTINUED DISCUSSION: REPLICA OF JOHN CARLSON ON THE RESPONSE OF CORRADO GNERRE

John Cavalcoli, OP – 22 October 2015

Is now much quoted on no. 84 the Apostolic Exhortation Family company St. John Paul II, in which the Pope expresses the condition of the irregularities of the divorced and remarried, in outer hole or, and how he expresses, "Objectively"; but the Holy Pontiff is careful not to say that they would, subjectively or in the inner hole, in a continuous state of mortal sin, because, this, like I said, It would be a rash judgment, which claims scrutinize the intimate consciences and secret operations of grace. In second place, this teaching of the Holy Pontiff should not be taken as if it were an immutable doctrine of the faith, but only as a pastoral available, as such, changing, as the ancient tradition. But this is not Sacred Tradition, it only custodian of the data revealed, but only the canonical tradition. the years in which this apostolic Exhortation has been written, the question of divorced and remarried is somewhat extended, complicated and aggravated, so that the present Pope has decided to reconsider it in to see if they maintain the current discipline, or adopt different solutions from the past [Click to read more WHO].

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CATHOLICS AND EROTOPHOBIA: "THE VIRGINITY OF THE HERETICS IS MORE UNCLEAN ADULTERY»

Ariel S. Levi Gualdo – 22 October 2015

Some Catholics cupi very similar to the Sadducees and the Pharisees, are grown with an idea of Christ not died but rose again, with an idea of ​​sexuality whole Manichaean; I am fixed on arid legalism and concepts imbued with Pelagianism, and similarly to Luther they have serious problems on the Pauline concept of predestination, then on the theology of justification that often threaten to reduce to an idea the whole Calvinist, albeit in the form of Catholic moral rigor [Click to read more WHO]

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THE DIVORCED AND REMARRIED AND THOSE THEOLOGIANS WHO EXPLOIT THE FAMILIARIS CONSORTIO OF SAINT JOHN PAUL II

John Cavalcoli, OP – 23 October 2015

The Family company, precisely because it only touches the outside hole, almost not even matter, the hole feature inside, i.e. the condition or State or inner dynamism of will of partners and thus leaves the door open to the legality of the ongoing discussion in the Synod, are, in some severe cases, well defined and detailed, with strong justifications, the divorced can or cannot access the sacraments [Click to read more WHO]

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DIVORCED AND REMARRIED? THE WORD IS UP NOW TO PETER, ON WHICH CHRIST BUILT HIS CHURCH

Ariel S. Levi Gualdo – 26 October 2015

From the speech of the Holy Father Francis: « […] As I followed the work of the Synod, I wondered: What will it mean for the Church to conclude this Synod devoted to family? It also means you have stripped the closed hearts often lurk behind even the teachings of the Church, or behind the good intentions, to sit on the Chair of Moses and judge, sometimes with superiority and superficiality, difficult cases and families injured. It means trying to open horizons for overcoming any conspiracy or close hermeneutics of perspectives, to defend and to spread the freedom of God's children, to convey the beauty of Christian newness, sometimes rust covered by an archaic language or simply not understood. In the journey of this Synod the different opinions that are expressed freely – and sadly sometimes not entirely benevolent methods – have certainly enriched and enlivened the dialogue, offering a living image of a church that does not use "pre-packaged modules", but that draws from the wellspring of his faith living water to quench parched hearts». [Click to read more WHO]

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ON "DIVORCED AND REMARRIED “. THE EUCHARIST, SIN AND CONSCIENCE. REPLY TO FATHER FAIK BABAYEV

John Cavalcoli, OP – 7 November 2015

The famous Dominican Father liturgist Babale released 29 last October in the journal telematics The New Compass Daily [cf. WHO] an article with this same title, in which I addressed some criticisms, to which I reply below. His objections are an italic. My answers and my steps that he mentions are round [Click to read more WHO].

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DISPUTATIONES THEOLOGICAE - REPLICA OF GIOVANNI CAVALCOLI TO CRITICISM OF ANTONIO LIVI

John Cavalcoli, OP – 2 November 2015

I have said on many occasions that we do not know what the Holy Father will decide and that we must be available to maintain the current law that some its change. Conservatives say that the current law is not untouchable and innovators that dogma is not changeable. As is the case in the mystery of the incarnation, so it is in Christian morality and family: We must reduce the eternal in time, without eternizzare the storm and without temporalizzare the eternal [Click to read more WHO]

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ABOUT DIVORCED AND REMARRIED. NEW NOTE OF FATHERS 'ISLE OF PATMOS

John Cavalcoli and Ariel S. Levi Gualdo – 4 November 2015

The fear of some, that if the Pope were to grant communion to divorced and remarried would be an attack on the indissolubility of marriage, has no dogmatic Foundation; and in this way is confused the civil law with the ecclesiastical law [Click to read more WHO]

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DONKEY IN CHAIR AND ACCUSATIONS OF HERESY: A SNAPSHOT OF SOME OUR CENSORS

Ariel S. Levi Gualdo – 5 November 2015

More Bishops of various dioceses, in camera caritatis they told me to have a hard time giving mandate to religious educators, giving reasons for their difficulties with phrases like this: "We have such a sample from not knowing where to fish, in a sea where the fish are often worse than the one ' [Click to read more WHO]

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STILL ON "divorced REMARRIED", THE THIRD ROUND WITH ANTONIO LIVI

John Cavalcoli, OP – 23 November 2015

The Church does not say anywhere that these people are constantly deprived of the grace of God, that is in mortal sin. On the contrary, already allowed today that they have to make a spiritual communion, It supposes that they may be in grace, Giacchè, as you might think to make a spiritual communion in a state of mortal sin? [Click to read more WHO]

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The joy of love, THE DOCUMENT OF THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS SYNOD ON THE FAMILY

John Cavalcoli, OP – 17 April 2016

This exhortation reaffirms the fundamental truths of reason and faith, relating to marriage and family, It outlines the characteristics, the purposes and the properties as well as he wanted the Creator, who, through the mission and work of Christ, He has granted to the Church and civil society to legislate with more precision in the field, according to the times and places, taking into account the fragility of human sinfulness and subsequent to original sin, in order to ensure to the family as possible the maximum period of the virtues, especially of charity, that blooms in the joy of love [Click to read more WHO]

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The joy of love, THE "THEOLOGY of Blank Check": THE POWER OF THE KEYS NOT be disputed, EXCEPT TO FALL IN HERESY

Ariel S. Levi Gualdo – 22 April 2016

With the "tu es Peter"Christ has signed to set up their legitimate vicar on earth a blank check. It is only limited to sign it with your name and surname, that on the check result: Word of the Lord. And on this check, after having stamped signature, He has written above only the date of issue, there has instead written no expiration date; but most did not write you any amount, the amount has left everything to Peter and his successors, because at the issuing bank is unlimited coverage [Click to read more WHO]

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The joy of love. SIAT HELMETS, BUT PAY TAXES, WHY THE PAYMENT OF FEES AND A TRUE FAITH OF DOGMA

Ariel S. Levi Gualdo – 25 April 2016

It is easy and comfortable to get into other people's finger pointing at sentencing bedrooms as a new dogma of faith "as long as they live as brother and sister '. But you, hypocrites ever, that "strain at a gnat 'in other people's bedrooms and then" you swallow a camel " [cf. Mt 23,24] are you ready to accept, make yours and spread as unquestionable dogma of faith: "Give to Caesar what is Caesar ', then pay taxes without a murmur, especially without azzardarvi to say that are high and that are not right? [Click to read more WHO]

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The joy of love. BISHOP ATHANASIUS SCHNEIDER AND ITS COARSE DOUBT

Jorge A. Faccio Lince – 26 April 2016

The Reflection the Auxiliary Bishop of Astana does not contain within it any new arguments contrary, it summarizes the widespread "not grasp" and "not wanting to understand" those substantial objective factors such divine law and canon law, irregular status and state of sin ... [Click to read more WHO].

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The joy of love. THE FOUNDATION OF indissolubility of marriage

Young Cavalcoli, OP – 4 May 2016

The nullity of the marriage almost always emerges dramatically after a certain time, more or less long, They can also take years and be half of the children, even if we are married in church, and it was a marriage celebrated with great solemnity: red carpet from the entrance of the church to the altar richly decorated, bouquets of exotic flowers, along all the pews, Photographers who's operators, enthusiastic and emotional crowd of high society people, abundant supply to the pastor. Yet it was a simple staging. Despite the solemn High Mass and solemn blessing, grace can be dropped, but certainly not the grace of marriage, since it lacked the suitable material. The poor priest, attorniato the concelebrated, It took, as the Romans say, a beautiful buggeratura [or called in Roman: hath pijato 'na alone] [Click to read more WHO]

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The joy of love. "HERETICS OF THE CHASTITY IS MORE IMPURE adultery '. THAT BIG MAGIC PIPER OF THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS MADE FOR COMING MICE AND THEIR "THEOLOGY OF PANT

Ariel S. Levi Gualdo and Jorge A. Faccio Lince – 11 May 2016

Catholic morality - unless you want to fall into darker Calvinism and Puritanism more furious - for being such, It must be structured entirely on charity; because Catholic morality is not a railway club, but a path toward the path of salvation. And shots of bar on your lap or on your teeth has never been redeemed none, including those who attacked these moralists call contemptuously "concubines" and "adulterers" [Click to read more WHO]

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The joy of love. Lust and marriage. THOUGHT OF THE APOSTLE PAUL

John Cavalcoli, OP – 11 May 2016

In St. Paul it is clear that for him the man-woman relationship corresponds to the upper-lower ratio [The Cor 11, 7-9; 14,34; The Tm 2, 11-14]. But these are his ideas. The doctrine instead of her husband, "head of the wife" [If the 5, 22-33] it's another thing. Indeed, while on the subject general "Man-woman" feel Paul with his rabbinical misogynism, in the doctrine of the relationship husband wife certainly it shines the beauty of God's Word, that does not go, and that was confirmed and deepened by the Council, that has come to affirm that "their union constitutes the first form of communion of persons" [Click to read more WHO]

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THE N. 84 OF FAMILIARIS CONSORTIO It IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PROLOGUE OF THE GOSPEL OF JOHN THAT TELLS THE MYSTERY OF GOD'S WORD AVATAR ?

Ariel S. Levi Gualdo – 9 October 2016

What basically asking to certain people is the spirit of human and Christian integrity: or perhaps really they believe they can attack from a part the whole Magisterium of the Church of the last fifty years, but at the same time argue that the n. 84 of Family company, written by a Pope to reconcile, present as a bishop at the council, then the council actuator as Successor of Peter, is untouchable, as more important and more dogmatic than will the entire Prologue of John's Gospel ? [Click to read more WHO]

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… the proof of facts is to say: Fathers de The island of Patmos they had said. And they also told of a beating and the other, because they have procured the ire of traditionalists penalty takers and progressives lax. While they were sitting in the middle, looking for a balance, taking beatings from traditionalists penalty takers and progressives lax, toned to the praise and glory of God!

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Jorge A. Faccio Lince – Secretary editorial

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12 thoughts on "“The joy of love”. Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio and the way Dominican. An article by Andrea Tornielli on the thesis carried out by the 2015 John Cavalcoli and from the island of Patmos during the Synod on the Family

  1. In medio stat virtus, but…
    But to Tornielli, since assimilation given by Title, It can be quite a recovery attempt and ” enlisting ex post ” the ex ante thought of our Father Giovanni , until a few days ago neglected …
    Especially since, of being tucked in Tornielli, the “breach opened” ride is even a cricket perhaps in the process of repentance…

    http://www.cittadellaeditrice.com/munera/amoris-laetitia-e-le-vie-domenicane/

    thank you, Domine.

  2. Tosatti reading I learned that this summer will end the mandate of the card. Muller, it is true?
    In case, to author Unlike stilum curiae, I'd be willing to bet that his successor will Schönborn…

    1. Dear Paul.

      We publish his comment with no problem, But please bear in mind that we do not do “Vatican gossip” and “toto-forecast appointments“, do and try to do theology and to spread the best Catholic doctrine.

  3. He writes the Cardinale Coccopalmerio: "... the Church could therefore admitted to Penance and the Eucharist, the faithful who are not in lawful union, which, however, two essential conditions occur: wish to change the situation, But they can not implement their desire […] It is exactly this respect, the theological element that allows absolution and access Eucharist, we repeat, in the presence of the impossibility to immediately change the state of sin ".

    Instead, he says the dogmatic Council of Trent: "If someone says that even for the man justified and constituted in grace the commandments of God are impossible to observe, let him be anathema ".

    Being omniscient God His Law is absolute and always and in any case binds the conscience than ever for any reason may feel entitled to sin in a grave matter. There are no exceptions to the law of God and anyone with full awareness and deliberate consent serious flaw is deserving of Hell less than a sincere repentance and the resolution not to sin again followed by sacramental absolution and forgiveness of the Lord, let us remember, It never allows man to be tempted above his forces.

    1. Caro Atanasio,

      we do not fall in the risk of doing of intentions, indeed, you mentioned in the text, It is expressed "the Church could», He does not say “The Church establishes” or that of Motu Proprio “the Supreme Pontiff decrees“.

      The discipline of St. Giovanni Paolo II, when, Has been confirmed. And if in the text of love joy there was some step unclear, This has been pointed out and asked clarification; clarification that basically was given.

      not every, please, in a dangerous confusion, which is this: we can not assume much less establish that a so-called living irregular torque in a permanent state of mortal sin that excludes from grace. To state or assume that, it would be a substitute for the judgment of God, because only He can read and judge the conscience of a man.

      The Church can and must say that adultery is a mortal sin – as are many other deadly sins -, but it can not establish that two adulterers are excluded from the grace of God. It can determine which are excluded from the sacraments or by some sacraments, because it has the power to do it for the power conferred on it by Christ God, but can not declare “out of grace” as “in a permanent state of mortal sin”.

      We can assume that Giuida Iscariot is Hell, but we can not establish that he is in Hell, because none of us can not know what happened between him and God, in the next three or four minutes after, legatosi a rope around his neck, He died finally hanged.

      As for the Council of Trent, I remind you that if in the Church there have been 21 Council, this also happened because humanity and the Church, formed by a People on their way, It has evolved, then new doctrinal and moral disciplines were necessary.

      She is likely to dogmatize of canonical disciplines, which are very different from the unchanging truths of faith established in the various founding tenets of faith: the Incarnation of the Word, the consubstantiality of the Son with the Father, The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, the resurrection and ascension into heaven of Christ, the Immaculate Conception …

      In conclusion: the Council of Trent, He could not declare the ugly sin internetico trade of child pornography images and movies, because there were no cameras, neither the cameras nor internet.
      We, however, we can do it.

      Or maybe he prefers to remain steadfast to the disciplines of previous councils, which they could not establish anything in this regard, since it did not exist the problem, He had not yet been invented the photograph, cinema and internet?

  4. Caro father Ariel,

    the real problem is that the Church does not “could” Eucharist for any reason to admit a person who sins in a grave matter deliberately and consciously without repenting with a resolution not to sin and thus receive absolution. And’ true that no one but God can judge the soul of a person, but it's doctrine infallibly defined by the Church that the sin committed with full awareness and deliberate consent makes losing the soul and grace to the sinner deserves hell if he does not repent before dying. You do understand you too with the example of Judas when you say that we can not determine whether you will be damned “because none of us can not know what happened between him and God, in the next three or four minutes after, legatosi a rope around his neck, He died finally is hanged.” If those three or four minutes he repented of extreme action and asked humbly for forgiveness, God will welcome into His mercy, but if he has repented, dying in mortal sin may not have been saved. Regarding the Council of Trent, I did not mention any “canonical discipline” but a dogmatic formula concerning the faith contained in the canons on justification. The canons of the Councils are considered by all theologians infallible expression of the Catholic faith, dunque irriformabili.

    1. Caro Atanasio,

      we are talking about two different things: one thing is the dogma, that is intangible, much less reformable, an account doctrines and ecclesiastical disciplines.

      You're trying to give the rank of the standard dogma and ecclesiastical discipline on solid bases and impeccable excludes Holy Communion by divorced and remarried.

      Therefore I answer:

      If there are disciplines that over the centuries they have undergone changes, sometimes even radical, it is the discipline of the Sacraments, two examples:

      Once the confession, the Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation, He could be administered only once in life and never again, because it was considered to discipline and ecclesiastical law a non-repeatable Sacramento. Just as the Sacramento then call “Last Rites”, today called “Anointing of the Sick”, Sacrament instituted by Christ God and a glimpse at a particular Gospel passage [MC 6, 13]. This Sacramento could, however, be administered only at death, once. Today it is not so, because this sacrament need to ask God for the grace of healing of the sick in body and spirit. Even though it took centuries before to perceive the true meaning of the phrase: "Who is sick, Let him call for the elders of the church and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil, in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith shall save the sick: the Lord will raise him up and if he has committed sins, They will be forgiven ".

      Let's see what is the relationship between dogma and ecclesiastical discipline and its legal operation, for example in the field of morality, where there are no dogmatic basis for holding a church or a moral norm discipline, that does not mean that loses no constraint, or consistency, or of value to the lack of a dogmatic support "strong".

      The problem that arose with Human life of Blessed Paul VI - encyclical in my opinion wonderful both for the content and for the discipline and moral standards it that -, it was just due to the fact that there are no dogmatic basis to take up the ban on contraception.

      To point out to the Blessed Paul VI that "in all of the Old Testament literature and novo there is a dogmatic basis of" strong "to hold the moral norm prohibiting contraception", They were not theologians Nouvelle Thèologie, It was ahead of all the Prefect of the former Holy Office, Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani.

      Indeed, Paul VI, dictating a moral norm and precise discipline, He not employed a dogmatic pronouncement own solemn infallible magisterium, for the simple fact that he could not do it.

      Nothing, however, alter the fact that moral standards and related disciplines dictated by the encyclical, are binding on the Catholic faithful and confessors and that the use of contraceptives is a sin; and it is for all the reasons stated by the Blessed Pope Paul VI.

      Tomorrow, a Pontiff, could change the current framework of Human life?
      Personally I do not hope, but if it did it would act in the legitimate exercise of its powers, in this case because he has full power to “tie” and “dissolve”.

      It could instead, a Pontiff, declare the legitimacy of sacred ordinations of women?
      No, could not do, because on this issue there was a solemn and clear pronouncement through a precise formula: « […] in order to remove any doubt about a matter of great importance, it pertains to the divine constitution of the Church, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren, I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer to women ordination and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful » [see text WHO].

      Asked if I auspichi that the Supreme Pontiff admits indiscriminately all divorced and remarried Eucharist, I answer without problems: No, I do not hope at all.

      And if it did, how would I react?
      In obedience to its provisions, why to me, both as a Catholic, both as a priest and as a theologian is very clear that the Roman Pontiff is not the elected President of the Democratic Republic of the Catholic, but it is the vicar of Christ on earth. And the Successor of Peter is obeyed, for he has the power to bind and loose [cf. Mt 16, 13-20], because it is only he who can confirm his brothers in faith [cf. LC 22, 32], because he alone can legislate in matters of doctrine and faith, because only he can, if necessary put in certain cases, a final word binding forever.

      I notice that you love to cite the Council of Trent, which it was one of the largest councils of the Church. In this regard, I remind you that this council is clear without ambiguity penalty on obedience due to Peter's Successor, also because, just before this council, the church had been devastated Lutheran heresy that had destroyed first and not least the authority of the Roman Pontiff.

      The “theological opinions”, both theologians and of those dabble with theology, sometimes these times also with Theology-do-it-yourself, must always and totally die rigor where begins the authority and power of the Supreme Pontiff.

      So it works in the Catholic Church: I celebrate the Eucharistic Sacrifice in communion with the Supreme Pontiff and the universal Church; and while I, in persona Christi I celebrate it as alter Christus, you participate and pray in communion with the Supreme Pontiff and the universal Church.

      Therefore, the views and opinions doctrinaire doctrinal your My, They do not have their own reason to exist before the authority of the one who received from Christ the mandate to exercise a precise interim function, with the power of binding and loosing, and of strengthening his brethren in faith; and this power was given to him by Christ, God himself. And this is, which it is a fundamental dogma of the Church! Therefore, obedience to authority and potestas Pietro's, It is a much more important issue than it is the same rule on Communion for divorced and remarried, because the Church is founded on Peter, not the norm - however still in force and never abolished - not about the opportunity to admit the divorced rispostati Eucharist.

      1. Padre Ariel, She says that a Pontiff could change the rules on contraception, it is not the teaching on contraception Paul VI unchanging and infallible, but unfortunately the
        Vademecum for confessors of the Pontifical Council for the Family (12.2.1997) writes: "The Church has always taught the intrinsic evil of contraception, ie, of every marital act intentionally infecondo. This teaching is to be held as definitive doctrine and irreformable. ”

        That's it?

        1. [Achille writes]

          Padre Ariel,

          She says that a Pontiff could change the rules on contraception, it is not the teaching on contraception Paul VI unchanging and infallible, but unfortunately the
          Vademecum for confessors of the Pontifical Council for the Family (12.2.1997) writes: "The Church has always taught the intrinsic evil of contraception, ie, of every marital act intentionally infecondo. This teaching is to be held as definitive doctrine and irreformable. ”

          That's it?

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          Dear Achille,

          first: a Handbook for confessors it is not a solemn act of the infallible magisterium.

          I tend to get a great pastoral patience with people who after a quick look writings concerning complex issues for which the author used all the clarity of the case, start at once on a tangent and respond to other questions or raising issues quite different, namely, those that I have just raised, nor in any way touched.

          At this point the answer with a question, because In my essay I have focused totally dogmatic appearance, on which she instead flies over to ask answer about anything, advancing a question that has the flavor of the judgment and denial … Well tell me, based on the doctrine, documents and he knew magisterium, on what basis weather the new testamentary Blessed Paul VI would have to lean on to give a solemn definition, or rather dogmatic, the ban on contraception ?

          If you know that they exist, communicate it to, because for two years, the best theologians appointed by Blessed Paul VI for the study of the matter, before the promulgation of his beautiful encyclical Humanae Vitae, have not found even a vague “piece support” in this sense.

          And that's a fact.

          I know very well what the Church has always taught, because his ministry as a confessor is me; and if you did not know, I would be nothing short of ignorant and worse still a highly dangerous and even unworthy confessor, as are practices of those confessors who do not know where the good ends and where it begins sin.

          How was I to say the least ignorant if they did not know the doctrines and disciplines that are based on dogmatic truths and doctrines that instead are based on ethical criteria, moral and pastoral, but no less valid, or worse by failing because they do not hold up on a dogma of faith. The Church is not only Mother and Teacher in matters of dogma,it is also about many other doctrinal and moral issues that do not involve the base a dogmatic truth.

          In conclusion: lei lo sa, that in Vedemecum Data confessors at the end of the nineteenth century and is still consulted in our historical libraries, It was clearly stated and explained in detail which gave a kiss on the lips between two boyfriends was a mortal sin if the mouth was not completely sealed, while venial sin if the mouth was tightly shut ? And anyway, in one and in the other case, it was a shame to confess ?

          And I assure you that were Handbook who called sometimes even the formula anathema sit aimed at those who do not strictly come into compliance with those provisions.

          When we arrived at the disastrous moral decadence to which we are today, it is also because, so at times obsessive, we transformed human sexuality and sometimes even the same affectivity, in the center of the whole mystery of evil.

          He said this very: the use of contraception – that is born of a dogmatic truth of faith – I am opposed on the grounds that the Blessed Paul VI said in his Humanae Vitae, that goes primarily considered a masterpiece of humanity, Christian charity and protecting the dignity of women; precisely that humanity and that charity is lacking in survivors still residues that would measure the intensity of a kiss on the lips, in a world in which, to our loyal first, we should teach what is the gift of sexuality and what is the true dimension of the loving affection.

        2. Dearest,

          she insists on thinking of putting on the corner with no arguments those who study of theology has dedicated his life.
          First, I point out that she did not respond to what I said; given that what I said is part of the doctrine, the magisterium and the Church History.

          You can quote me the words of this Handbook all’infinito, passing over any reasonable theological answer, doctrinal and canonical that I have given, bringing very specific examples of historical and ecclesial character, as well as doctrinal, explaining how the same costumes have evolved with the passage of time, leaving unchanged the substance Catholic morality, but ranging also in the form radical way accidental.

          Example: if a century ago, a woman, he dared to go inside a church with a skirt that left out the knee, if not worse in pants, He would not have been thrown out by the priest, but it would have been thrown out directly by the women who practiced prostitution, which they would have judged quell'abbigliamento scandalososo and desecrating the sacred site.

          repeat: the problem of Blessed Pope Paul VI, with the Humanae Vitae, it was the fact that he could not have recourse to a solemn dogmatic pronouncement, for the reasons I already explained; without this detracting from the moral disciplines contained in that text, They are and will remain binding on the Catholic faithful and confessors.
          If you want to make it clear to himself how the degree of infallibility in matters of doctrine and faith, go read the Apostolic Letter given Motu Proprio To defend the faith St. John Paul II.

          By insisting stubbornly as she is doing and denying any kind of reasonable explanation Catholic even though she was given, she does not tighten the rope none, but it continues to show total rejection to distinguish disciplines and doctrines based on the dogma of the faith, the doctrine and the discipline dictated by the Church for ethical reasons, moral and pastoral, which are binding on all the faithful, even if they are not necessarily built on dogmas, because the Church is Mother and Teacher and as such has received from Christ, God the power to legislate, ie to dictate moral and behavioral standards, to which the faithful must follow, except to sin.

          If, however, she insists on not understanding all that with patience I explained why convinced to have found the Handbook magic to be built in the next, in that case knows that threatens to make the figure of the Jehovah's Witness one insisted, and with the claim that the Book of Revelation is written that "only 144.000 elected ascend to Heaven "; And since the word is the word, of what has been written is not discussed ».

          You know how I answered, two female Jehovah's Witnesses, who stopped me on the street in order to teach and then to convert to the true doctrine, up to appoint me to this end that very Blessed Apostolo Giovanni to which I devoted a lifetime of study? I told them this way: "Then, me that, make yourself the peace of mind and renounce eternal bliss, because if as you say the word is the word, in this case I'll note that the 144.000 elect are all male, therefore, For you, there's just hope, Therefore, know that you are unnecessarily wasting your time '.

          Here, I do not put in a position to respond well to you too.

          1. Father Ariel Caro,

            There must have been a misunderstanding, for I am totally agree with you, I wanted a simple confirmation on how to read the Handbook and its authorities, around them, and she was very valuable in this.

            By the way my line of thought could have already intuit from “unfortunately” I had put before reporting what he said the Handbook. But anyway thank you is really the answer for the right job, intellectual and spiritual. She is undoubtedly a true man of God.

            Thanks again for the full answer (I agree in toto, including as said obsession sexophobic) and may God bless you and keep it.

          2. So I wonder, because I agree with you: because the Church, having the power to dissolve and bind, did not let the faithful free, making sure to keep many obstacles to salvation and causing what you said above writing

            “When we arrived at the disastrous moral decadence to which we are today, it is also because, so at times obsessive, we transformed human sexuality and sometimes even the same affectivity, in the center of the whole mystery of evil”

            Would not it be better to be more discreet about certain things; as did the Orthodox Church, not loading the consciences of unbearable burdens that facilitate the sin (because as you know it is a mortal sin it must be full awareness and deliberate consent, not the only grave matter, So if the Church had not imposed certain laws mortal sins would be less ) and are likely to close the gates of heaven?

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