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The website of this magazine and the editions take name from the Aegean island in which the Blessed Apostle John wrote the Book of the Apocalypse, isola also known as «the place of the last revelation»
«God revealed the secrets of others ALTIUS»
(in higher than the others, John has left the Church, the arcane mysteries of God)
The bezel used as the cover of our home page is a 16th century fresco by Correggio. preserved in the Church of San Giovanni Evangelista in Parma
creator of the website of this magazine:
MANUELA LUZZARDI
On the newspaper in question, i noticed that da “Catholic newspaper” has become “Catholic-inspired newspaper” and I fear the next step, now close, will be to become “Inspirational newspaper”. Personally, I still read it just because it is sent to me - I don't know why- free home, despite having long since canceled the subscription.
Unfortunately, in my small, I also noticed the decrease of the faithful after the resumption, as I had feared when the suspension of masses was decided. Unfortunately, But, I don't see that the over-65s are missing from church (from me there are several among the 80 e i 90 year old), but the youngest of 50. I hope I no longer have to see the lack of harvest this spring, which was a real pain for me. Because of this, But, we Catholics should claim our constitutional prerogatives to the state…
Dear Father Ivano,
I believe that the theme you deal with in this speech is very important. I realize that very often just the theme “Saturday for man” O “the man for Saturday” I am very confused if I try to extend it beyond the specific case of the Sabbath for Jews. I am also often confused by the theme of conscience versus obedience to authority, and the concept of “primacy of consciousness” it torments me not a little because’ often I can't quite understand if some thoughts I have come from my conscience (and if therefore I have to give it primary importance) or if they are other and therefore to be ignored as much as possible (but at the same time I'm afraid to ignore them in case they are conscience and it would be a sin to go against them)… and ultimately, so, how to recognize the true voice of God within us. I believe this issue is very important, and I would like to ask you kindly if you can’ write an article even more in the future’ detailed of his answer, as a form of catechesis on a topic on which I believe I am not the only one who has some ideas’ confuse, and at the same time I believe it is of fundamental importance.
Thank you for your reply to Claudia, and in advance for any further information on this topic.
I developed the idea that this picture clearly described by Cesare Sachetti is clearly true ( it is not conspiracy at all … for nothing) , net of Vigano 'or not , the appeal made by the same to the prayer of Christians of any condition , age , social status , health or not , because the moment is very serious , crucial …. it is valid and now more appropriate than ever
What is happening is of an unprecedented severity and the consequences will be even worse( especially for Christians …in particular the Catholics : Kamala Harris & Company teaches; that doting / puppet Biden worries less ).
They will promote and sponsor all that is anti-Christian throughout the West as never before : the preconditions will come to accelerate or rather impose the anti-Christian spirit .
Call it the time of the antichrist if you like …
but a person is better off going to church out of habit or not going there at all?
in the first case a person can be stimulated by the Word of God, from the sermon, from the liturgy and pass from a cold relationship with God to a more true and full one. it is true that God can give the grace of conversion when and how he wants, but the more good good opportunities the better
in the second case, instead, by staying at home, what does he end up doing? ends up looking at pornazzi!
with the story of the best few but good’ we really risk killing the life of our communities, and we will end up locking ourselves in an elitism that is harmful to us and sorry to God
then Pope Francis did not say that the Church is a field hospital’ to heal the wounds of humanity? and the 'faithful by habit’ he is not one of these patients? and we want to throw it out…
His answer is interesting
Maybe later on I express a comment .
Having said and given that I "do not sragiono" ( I deduce this from his statement ) and I do not try to introduce the "Vigano virus" in this forum ( as you imply…)
What Vigano expressed ’is in perfect agreement with what I think and what I have matured over time regardless of Vigano’.
It's not all white or all black .
I can make some things of Vigano my own and others not like Father Livio's ( I just heard today's morning catechesis 9 November: and literally perfect ) like the videos of you dear Don Ariel and this online magazine that I consider good at times excellent as I share and follow the Minutella ( forgive me the serious lack …. but so it is….) .
Yet in Vigano 'Father Livio , Don Ariel , Minutella …. there is absolutely no uniformity in the discourse you carry out … rather…
I follow listening with keen interest ( even from this precious blog of his I download the articles in paper version and keep them in the form of a pantry in the library ) all without prejudice and without partisanship as a "fan" for one or the other and then I summarize keeping what through my discernment ( whether good or bad ) I feel good ( nothing enters the “in my opinion…” )
Subjecting everything to continuous verification . The partisanship of "fans" either all white or all black , I don't like them and they distort .
By the way :
https://www.marcotosatti.com/2020/11/09/vigano-la-grande-informazione-censura-i-brogli-di-biden/
Greetings
The Pope has not given the green light to anything, he only said that you don't go to mass on Sundays “for habit”. Or why “it has always been like this”. He is perfectly right to say that the church does not need such faithful today. In my opinion, this Pope scandalizes not because he speaks in a confused way, but because it speaks in a real way, without too many words.
In my diocese to one like Father Ariel, his 90 priests that we are: 20 (10 of the youngest and 10 of the oldest) they would take him to the old gestation chair, and they wouldn't just kiss his hand, but also the shoe, and they would also have proposed him already in life as patron saint of the diocese, the others 70 priests would have poured cyanide into the cruet of wine for Holy Mass.
Dear Stephen,
who has not given me a bishop's chair, that neither in the past nor especially in a moment like our present would have absolutely never accepted, have all my sincere and deepest gratitude, because he saved me from Hell on this earth within this Church. I believe that within a maximum of a year I would have had to give up my professorship due to the war to the death they would have made on me, but above all for the insurmountable problems that would have created a good part of my priests and all the bishops of the neighboring dioceses who would have helped him, overwhelming the Congregation for Bishops with protests, simply because I would have been guilty of being a Catholic bishop.
Who has not given you a bishopric, in my opinion it risks ending up in hell!
Reverend Father Ivano,
I share with you that there is a clear choice on the part of most of the episcopate to make people understand that the Sacraments, and in particular the Eucharistic Sacrifice, they are not the beating heart of our life of faith, with many greetings to the liturgy culmen et fons’ promoted by the Council
I also noticed this from a recent interview with the Holy Father Francis ( https://www.adnkronos.com/fatti/cronaca/2020/10/30/papa-francesco-all-adnkronos-covid-corruzione-benedetto_chrA2saxr5INZHQvsZT44N.html?refresh_ce ), of which I quote a passage that personally scandalized me more than the pontifical affirmations on gays and the like
I do not want to enter into the political decisions of the Italian government but I will tell you a story that has given me a disappointment: I learned of a bishop who said that with this pandemic people are “unaccustomed” - that's what he said – to go to church, who will never return to kneel before a crucifix or to receive the body of Christ. I say that if this “people”, as the bishop calls it, he used to come to church out of habit then he better stay home. E’ the Holy Spirit calling people. Maybe after this hard test, with these new difficulties, with the suffering that enters homes, the faithful will be more real, more authentic, Believe me, it will be like this
that is, practically the Pope gave the green light to violate the Sunday precept to all the 'untrue' faithful, not authentic '. in fact it is also a denial of the sacraments as a medicine for the sick man
How to Claudia,
the subject is very delicate and its evangelical comparison tends more towards the emotional (very understandable) than to the objective.
Let me be clear, this reasoning is not his fault, if anything it's our fault that for too long we have waived our fundamental mission: guide and teach the People of God, as guides and teachers instituted by the sacrament of grace.
The answer to order:
– You cite an evangelical passage through which Jesus Christ highlights the element of hypocrisy and the idolatrous worship of the precepts created by men around the Mosaic Law. In many other passages of the Holy Gospels, Jesus Christ shows not only respect for the Law, but it teaches what true respect is for the Law of the Holy Patriarchs and Prophets.
– We are endowed with conscience and free will as thinking and rational minds. The Church has a complex set of laws that in appearance, in very special cases, they may appear in conflict with our consciousness, with what we consider good, assuming it is. If this conflict arises, as it was created in the poor Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, what should we follow, as bishops or presbyters bound by precise and solemn promises: what the Church indicates to us, or what we think is good? And it is clear, this, it's not a question of style, in the shape or worse of a brain thrown into storage, but it is really a question of faith. Obvious than ever, the church, may ask me, through the legitimate Ecclesiastical Authority, to carry out actions contrary to the deposit of credit and to Catholic morality, or crimes, but it may ask me to observe and obey many things on which I disagree, or that I even believe to be wrong and harmful. In that case, what should I apply? I apply the “but in my opinion … I think that …” or I put myself back in obedience to the Church?
Perhaps a concrete example will clarify everything better: almost a decade ago, totally unfair, I was forced not to write and not to publish. But not because I wrote false or inappropriate things, quite the opposite! But because I had whipped several clergymen with just and deserved reason, especially the poisonous gay lobby. And so, some mischievous curial who had felt stung, had convinced my bishop at the time that “this troublesome priest” it could have created problems for him in his race towards the cardinalate, given almost certain and certain.
I might have had all human and apparent reasons to say that I was not required to obey a command given by an ambitious bishop who, made fun of by the curials and touched by them at its weak point, he had given me a completely unfair command.
Instead I obeyed that unjust command and for a whole year I did not publish anything. That bishop did not become a cardinal, indeed he has made numerous petty figures and finally, his retirement from the episcopal chair, was hailed by the whole presbytery as the ill-fated end of the government of a “public danger”.
All this to tell you: I have the right to criticize the Ecclesiastical Authority, it is the Church itself that grants me the right to exercise a critical sense, even severely, always within the limits of the permitted. But what I cannot and must not do, it is disobeying the Ecclesiastical Authority by placing myself as a judge above it. This I cannot and must not do.
Disubbidire to a command, it was also unfair, for a priest it is a very serious thing. Better to do something wrong in obedience to the Ecclesiastical Authority, than to do the right thing in disobedience to the Ecclesiastical Authority. Then, before God, the Ecclesiastical Authority which used its own power to induce a priest to carry out an unjust or wrong order or injurious to his person and human dignity, he will have to seriously answer for it up to the real risk of ending up suffering eternally in Hell.
– E’ vero, in the Creed we say of “believe in the Church and not in the Pope”, but it must be remembered that the Roman Pontiff is not the president of a democratic parliamentary republic, but the Vicar of Christ on earth, legitimate successor of the Blessed Apostle Peter to whom Christ God gave the power to bind and to loose. So be careful to split “church” e “Papa”, as she risks doing, because it is very dangerous. Said this: I can also affirm – and I've done it more than once – that the reigning Pontiff runs the serious risk of going down in history as one of the worst Supreme Pontiffs in the history of the Church. This I can say, no one can stop me. What I can't do, nor will I ever, it is to question his legitimate authority and deny him due obedience and due respect. Caution: obey and respect does not mean esteem. In fact, one can obey and respect a person without being in any way bound to esteem him. The estimate, indeed, if the Supreme Pontiff wants it, he must earn it, because it is not due to him, but respect and obedience yes, those are due to him.
– About “discharge” according to him “forced” of Benedict XVI and for this “invalid”, you are simply stating that the Venerable Predecessor of the reigning Pontiff is nothing but a miserable liar. In fact, I remind you that Benedict XVI, on several occasions, reaffirmed the full and total freedom of his act of renunciation. Then keep in mind that a Roman Pontiff does not resign, but he can make an act of renunciation. Now, one of two: o Benedict XVI is indeed a liar, or he signed the waiver with a revolver aimed at his head. But neither one nor the other is true, he told us, Benedict XVI explained and reiterated that in this sense, or is he telling the truth – and I believe it says so – or is a liar – and I don't think it is -.
– Don Lorenzo Milani I consider him one of the various bad masters of the twentieth century, but this is my opinion based on several of his writings, speeches and actions. Imagine, there is an army of Cattocomunists who would like it “saint now!”. Said this: in the Church one does not remain only for the sacraments, because the Sacraments are that supernatural grace that sanctifies an entire journey of faith, through that obedience that – as much as Milani rationed by saying “obedience is no longer a virtue – it always remains a fundamental virtue.
After replying to your statements, I would like to clarify that when we priests meet faithful who think like you, the question we should ask ourselves, very seriously it is very urgent, it would be one: if our faithful think so, where is it that we have made a mistake? Because one thing is certain: it is we who are wrong. And I limit myself to us priests, out of modesty flying over our bishops capable of speaking only of “poor and migrants”, “existential suburbs” e “Church outgoing”, while the members of the People of God, more and more lost, they are orphans of solid and sure guides and our churches are becoming more and more empty.
She, dear Claudia, in his wrong reasoning, it does not have one but a thousand justifications. We priests, instead, no. We don't have a single and miserable justification.
Pray for us and accept my blessing.
estimated P. Ariel,
regarding the alleged serious violations of papal secrets by Msgr. Viganò, even Christ has transgressed the law (“Saturday is for man and not man for Saturday”); the purpose of the good of the Church (which concerns the totality of people) it is much more important than protecting a minority of people, as in the comparison you reported which I do not consider equivalent. Lately, I find it hard to recognize the current Pope as such (in the Creed we say “I believe the Church” do not “dad”), moreover, the resignation of Benedict XVI seems to have been forced and therefore invalid, it would have been enough to leave him the spiritual guide and the rest of the executive administration to entrust him to a College of Cardinals. I don't know what to do with a Church dominated by the world and by Satan, and I am still there “only for the Sacraments” as Don Milani said.
Read this book:
https://www.amazon.it/Satana-fece-trino-individualismo-disubbidienza/dp/8894463206/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=isoladipatmos-21&linkCode=w00&linkId=3ca7df3551b5c9143bed1500a68fbd7a&creativeASIN=8894463206
I have analyzed certain things and told them from within, as a priest and with knowledge of a profound cause, I am not an approximate and stupid layman like Martel. He is gossiping, instead I do text, with scientific rigor.
Viganò, one who argues that Trump must save the world from darkness and that Pope Francis is an antichrist emissary. But how do you go after these people? Come? His, don Minutella… Now there are also the comments of a certain vicar of Savonese against the Pope who would be a heretic to be converted. All to tear their clothes for the Pope's phrases about gays, when in the church the vast majority of priests are now gay, (all proven, verified, not least by the journalist Martel with his essay Sodoma). What then, one of the few certainties we have today is that Pope Francis is not homosexual. And it is curious, as written by Martel himself, which happens often the prelates who attack homosexuals most vehemently and the alleged openings are precisely homosexuals. The celebrities “rigidi say” (also known personally). All with the same style. Lace, laces, obsession with the liturgy, often the ancient one. Custodians of the sacred doctrine, but until it's about their bedroom.
During the closing I missed the Eucharist. After the churches reopened, I went back, confident in everyone's respect for the rules. Use of masks: often priests without saving Communion, distributed in a row instead of in place, some faithful with bare noses and others even mouths, singers and readers without. This in all, just all of them, the church where I've been. At the last there were people with uncovered noses and mouths, and the priest at the end took off his mask to sing a hymn, with the ventilation on to better spread the virus eventually! To my grievances he said that the mask would never take it off again, alright then, but for people without masks he couldn't do anything about it and stay at home. I asked him at least to remember its use during Mass. Watch the Masses on TV, you see the same thing; last Sunday the priest was even coughing. In a closed environment they are very high risk behaviors, as amply demonstrated: having the nose uncovered is equivalent to no mask; singing spreads the virus within a radius of many meters. . I also have a fragile person at home. I consulted with a priest who follows us and we resumed seeing Masses on TV. E’ so difficult for the celebrant and the readers not to take off the mask? E’ so difficult for the faithful to properly cover their nose and mouth? E’ essential to sing when the organ would be enough? I am experiencing all of this as violence. I do not find it right that in fact I am prevented from participating in the Eucharist for…
Dear Fabio,
that the expression "Make ammuina"Whether or not to be considered a historical fact, for the purposes of the article, it does not appear decisive. Indeed, the quote was chosen as a simple example, reporting a well-known dialect expression, rooted in the Neapolitan culture, than to express a very clear situation of confusion or, rather, of noise. And we don't really need noise at this moment in the Church, even if the noise comes from a newspaper defined as "Catholic", which although it is no longer bought by anyone – as you specified - it is always to be considered as the voice of the Italian bishops. And in this regard - let me say – a noisy voice no longer animated by the Word of Christ but by a secularized and laicizing word that should arouse concern. Every good.
I understand that unfortunately, the emotionality based on “in my opinion…”, “I think…”, “I feel that…”, it's literally blinding people.
If anything it can serve to make you think, I copy and paste the text translated into Italian from the faithful Latin version of the solemn oath made by the very little heroic Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano:
«I ... in the presence of ... touching the sacred Gospels of God with my hand, I promise to faithfully guard the pontifical secret in the causes and affairs that must be treated under this secret, so that in no way, under any pretext, is of greater good, is of a very urgent and very serious cause, it will be lawful for me to violate the aforementioned secret. I promise to keep the secret, like above, even after the conclusion of the lawsuits and business, for which this secret was expressly imposed. If in any case it occurs to me to doubt the obligation of the aforementioned secret, I will stick to the interpretation in favor of the secret itself. Likewise, I am aware that the transgressor of this secret commits a grave sin. May God help me and these Holy Gospels that I touch with my hand help me "
having said this I ask you: in your opinion, what does it mean
«[…] in no way, under any pretext, is of greater good, is of a very urgent and very serious cause, it will be lawful for me to violate the aforementioned secret "?
Carlo Maria Viganò did what I would have done if by unfortunate hypothesis – It is an example, be clear – I had violated the sacramental seal by publicly reporting that Signor Caio, 50 year old, husband and father of three daughters, he confessed to me that he has an irresistible attraction towards underage prostitutes with whom he has had sexual relations several times.
At that point I decide to violate the secret, motivating everything by saying that it was my intention to protect the young prostitutes and publicly shame Mr. Caio.
This did Viganò, so please, don't bring it to us as a model, this poor straw idol that many have raised on the ashes of our poor devastated Church.
The only thing to do in reaction to what is happening is what we all know …
Expressed in this last letter from Mons Carlo Maria Vigano '.
https://www.marcotosatti.com/2020/11/05/appello-di-mons-vigano-agli-americani-cattolici-e-non/
2 thousand years ago on Calvary our Lord Jesus Christ went up…..now it's us .
Then there will be liberation ….
I think the pains have started …difficult times await us .
hi I wanted to report https://www.vesuviolive.it/cultura-napoletana/storia/192870-facite-ammuina-falso-storico-borbone/
then nobody buys the future newspaper anymore,it hurts ,it is financed with the money of the 8 per thousand,
it should be closed ,wasted money