Risk viral coronavirus: It is right to close the churches? One thing is certain: it is not fair or that certain Christian faithful up attacking so mocking bishops and priests, standing up as supreme judges of their pastors in this moment of tragic emergency

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RISK VIRAL CORONAVIRUS: It's OK CLOSE THE CHURCHES? ONE THING IS CERTAIN: NOT RIGHT OR THAT SOME CHRISTIAN FAITHFUL up attacking SO mocking BISHOPS AND PRIESTS, Standing at SUPREME JUDGES OF THEIR CHARACTERS IN THIS TRAGIC MOMENT OF EMERGENCY

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[…] let me quote mocking attitude of some Christians faithful to their bishops. At this time the Church does not need divisions, If it is serious, the situation we are experiencing is even more serious foment infighting. Dates provisions are certainly not perfect, indeed they would have needed more judiciousness, but this does not authorize anyone to break them and to stand as a judge of the bishops and their priests of us, who by grace or disgrace still represent the guides we recognized the People of God. As children free, we also express our pain and our disagreement without falling But in rebellion, What it would do more like ravenous wolves in sheep tame.

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Ivano Liguori, Ofm. Capp.

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I must admit which at first glance, such a question is likely to leave much space emotionality. I confess that I too, I was led to more emotional than rational considerations, accusing the blow, if only for my dual role as a Christian and a priest, as well as an Italian citizen. The same applies to my confreres de The island of Patmos, with whom we exchanged opinions and views, consultandoci each other and often looking for answers in each other. All we indeed felt touched in the deepest essence of the exercise of the sacred priesthood, in a situation that is unprecedented, in Church history, which also it has known moments of persecution or emergencies dates from various epidemics or pandemics.

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It comes so sudden and unexpected for the majority of the faithful, the news released by the Italian Bishops' Conference on 8 March, that demanded by Catholics compliance with the Decree of the Prime Minister's Office, which required - among other things - the suspension as a preventive measure, until the next 3 April, the entire national of all the civil and religious ceremonies territory, including those funeral. After this news, regional episcopal conferences have begun to issue decrees which essentially reiterated the orientation of the text C.E.I. with some minimal adjustment to the specific situations of the diocesan territory of belonging.

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by Luca De Matteis

We must say that the Decree the Presidency of the Council of Ministers does not speak explicitly of physical closure of places of worship, but public year suspension of civil and religious functions. So in fact the churches are open but without faithful, Masses are still celebrated by priests but behind closed doors and someone could still go to church to pray, respecting the rules of hygiene and prevention of infection, but without creating the typical gathering of a mass.

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A few days later, President Joseph Conte, declare a national emergency and extends the stringent measures of the regions most affected by the epidemic to the whole Italian territory. The result is that you can not leave the house except for urgent and proven business needs commissions, under penalty of fine or more severe sanctions.

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With the update of the provisions, the majority of the churches remains open but without the ability to see a faithful among its aisles. Again, Last Thursday, Cardinal Angelo De Donatis, vicar general of His Holiness for the diocese of Rome, established by decree a ban on access to parochial and non-parochial churches extended to all the faithful dell'Urbe. The next day De Donatis backtracks and issues a new decree that corrects the previous and stops the lockout: "They remain closed to public access" - reads the decree - "non-parish churches and more generally the places of worship of any kind, the parish churches remain open instead ».

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Others see as the cause of this abrupt reversal “The” the cardinal of the Holy Father's words, during the morning mass at the Martha's House Sacthae: 'Drastic measures are not always good ".

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great starter, great confusion, great fear ... but the faithful what they think, what they do? The pleas of the battle rages communication, attach the bishops, the priests are accused of being fearful and novel Don Abbondio, the conflicting opinions expressed by some Catholic intellectuals are wasted on social and blogs, Then there are not a few comments that go beyond the bounds of decency, in short, a great mishmash that does not bring any benefit to the Church.

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by Luca De Mattei

I have taken my idea about it, of which I spoke at length with my brothers de The island of Patmos and now I would share with you: first, I believe that in this matter the stakes are twofold. On the one hand the public health of citizens must be guaranteed by the state. Across the health of the soul that the Church has also a duty to safeguard respect for the divine mandate received from Christ, and that is the most valuable asset of every baptized. I say this because in such situations you need to be united despite the allocation of functions and separation areas of expertise. Otherwise we come to dislike interference and misunderstandings.

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It is clear that the state can not regulate in spiritual matters, since it enjoys no authority in the matter and no divine mandate. In contrast, the Church can not deal with issues that affect temporal situations, except in the case in which it can manifest, as a moral authority, his opinions about some serious matters and vital.

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The emergency situation that the epidemic has resulted, the need for the rapid adoption of useful decisions to stem the contagion, It has prevented a serious reflection and a healthy dialogue, as to protect the priorities of a secular state without damaging the spiritual goods of the Church.

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It does much to think that in a time like ours, attentive to the rights of all, guarantor of minorities, enemy of those who foment hatred, an emergency situation like send everything up, revealing the flaws of a state system unprepared and a Church whose concern is skewed more toward the body to the soul. Leveling everything, It appeared to be the best choice to solve the problem in a quick and almost painless.

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by Luca De Mattei

In this way, there is serious risk to throw out with the bathwater the baby, Whereas Italy, the number of Catholic Christians still represents the majority and, Although Christianity is no longer the state religion, as before, it still holds an important civil weight. I personally think that the Holy Church, through her pastors would have to immediately start an open dialogue with the state that would be guaranteed to the faithful the right to exercise faith and to the priests the exercise of the ministry albeit with due caution before the ongoing situation.

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In a health emergency situation like this, faith is still a strong hope for so many people, an internal tool that allows active resources and the resilience that can go forward. Faith does not pertain only to the religious but binds to the virtue of hope, and the man without hope dies. That's why, a restrictive measure of this kind, despite the good intentions, is likely to bring along the side effects that we see with clarity only danger ceased, including in the near future the kind of precedent that was created.

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My thoughts go to the many elderly who are not accustomed to using new technologies and who can not follow the Mass live Facebook. For them the comfort not only passes through the Mass broadcast TV or radio, but above all through the visit of the priest and the reception of Holy Communion. This my thinking is reflected in the words of these days the Pope saying: "Pastors not only let the people of God, speechless, sacraments and prayer ". Well, but how can I priest hearing confession unless I approach, How can I administer the anointing oil if you do not touch with the sick and dying body. Difficult decisions that impose almost a choice between body and spirit? Days and days later, The Italian Episcopal Conference issued a document in which they enter into the merits of this speech giving directives [see document, WHO].

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by Luca De Mattei

The body is a gift from God and it is only right to treat him and protect it from danger and disease, but that our body is limited not immortal. When you can not do anything, you can still act on the soul, you can cure and save his soul from eternal death, and in so doing also recover the body in expectation of his glorious resurrection, as we recite in the Creed Sunday. Unfortunately,, there have been cases where the sick faithful were unable to receive the Eucharist, penitents could not be reconciled and the priests impeded by various factors in accomplishing their ministry. I say this not for God or groped to convey a superstitious religious sentimentalism, I say this because my experience of many years as a chaplain in the hospital brought me to this conclusion, and health workers themselves have recognized the meritorious value of spiritual assistance during illness.

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When the emergency is over, we should all respond to our conscience in reference to some deficiencies that challenge the common good, which also passes through respect for the faith of my neighbor.

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To end, let me mention that attitude mocking di alcuni fedeli cristiani verso i loro vescovi. At this time the Church does not need divisions, If it is serious, the situation we are experiencing is even more serious foment infighting. Dates provisions are certainly not perfect, indeed they would have needed more judiciousness, but this does not authorize anyone to break them and to stand as a judge of the bishops and their priests of us, who by grace or disgrace still represent the guides we recognized the People of God. As children free, we also express our pain and our disagreement without falling But in rebellion, What it would do more like ravenous wolves in sheep tame.

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Laconi, 20 March 2020

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8 thoughts on "Risk viral coronavirus: It is right to close the churches? One thing is certain: it is not fair or that certain Christian faithful up attacking so mocking bishops and priests, standing up as supreme judges of their pastors in this moment of tragic emergency

  1. NOT RIGHT OR THAT SOME CHRISTIAN FAITHFUL up attacking SO mocking BISHOPS AND PRIESTS……
    parlate proprio voi che [CENSORED]

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    The Editor informs that do not publish any kind of gratuitous insults sent by aggressive people full of hatred hidden behind the anonymity that make e-mail address specifically for this purpose, especially at this time when it would be good to pray and to offer penance to God.

  2. D’accordo, ma restano due punti.
    1. La fede non è semplicemente qualcosa di “useful”, magari ai malati o ai deboli in generale. Senza Dio questo mondo non va avanti, simply. Anche se il Mondo crede che i cristiani siano poveri sfigati.
    E coloro che vogliono andare in chiesa non sono “little ones” stop: sono persone che amano Dio. Nel definirli – as has been done – “little ones” si implicava che chi non reclama sia uncattolico adulto”. Ne facciamo volentieri a meno. The “little ones” di Gesù non si contrappongono a inesistenti “grown ups”.
    2. Molti preti approfittano del divieto di messe pubbliche per non celebrare messa affatto, dicendo che senza il popolo non ha valore. Questa è una colossale eresia però molto diffusa grazie a teologastri e seminari di oggi. Occorre chiarire questo punto in maniera seria, autorevole e netta.
    Vietare, and then, as has been done, anche la semplice ostensione del Santissimo, con la scusa che altrimenti si raduna gente, lascia francamente molto perplessi: c’è qualcosa che non quadra.

  3. Gent.mo Padre Ivano,
    sul quotidiano dei vescovi italiani del 15 c.m. è stato pubblicato il seguente articolo:
    https://www.avvenire.it/opinioni/pagine/luigino-bruni-oikonomia-10
    In esso si arriva a sostenere: “[…] il cristianesimo da subito ha interpretato la passione e morte di Gesù come un sacrificio, come l’«agnello di Dio» che con la sua morte toglie, definitely, il peccato dal mondo. […] Il sacrificio di Gesù, Son, sarebbe stato il prezzo pagato a Dio Padre per estinguere l’enorme debito che l’umanità aveva contratto. Gesù il nuovo sommo sacerdote che offre in sacrificio non animali ma se stesso (Ebrei 7). Questa teologia sacrificale ha attraversato e segnato l’intero Medioevo, ribadita dalla Controriforma, e ancora oggi molto radicata nella prassi cristiana. […] Il sacrificio sta finalmente uscendo dalla teologia più recente (grazie a una comprensione più biblica del mistero della Passione), ma sta entrando sempre più nella nuova religione capitalista. ”
    Padre Cavalcoli ha così risposto: https://padrecavalcoli.blogspot.com/p/unoffesa-al-sacrificio-di-cristo.html
    According to her, criticare i vescovi per quell’ article, it means “ergersi a giudice dei

  4. Dear Father Ivano, mi soffermo sul Catenaccio, nonché capoverso conclusivo del suo articolo, per notare in esso l’assunzione, spero involontaria, di uno stile oggi moltoecclesialese”: Alcuni fedeli cristiani… Chi ? Dove ? When ?
    Smettiamola con codeste accuse generiche, piene di metafore sibilline, di aggettivi polivalenti, di allusioni a complotti e a deviazioni, senza che mai dal pulpito più alto e a cascata dai pulpitini di supporto sia chiarito né l’oggetto né l’obiettivo dell’accusa.
    Atteggiamento canzonatorio… che vuol dire ? Chi ha canzonato chi, and in what way ? Magari ce ne sono stati davvero, ma senza chiarezza ognuno può pensare o di essere accusato a torto, o che altri siano accusati a ragione (from his point of view).
    Faccio un esempio qui circoscritto: anche padre Ariel, stimatissimo, in un suo recente articolo ha irriso aglisgrana-rosari”. Why Is That ? Con quale autorità ? Sa forse riconoscere, a distanza , skin, senza dubbi, un fedele che prega, come può e come sa, e un superstizioso che si atteggia ? Chiamerebbe Padre Pio unosgrana-rosari” ?
    Indicate la meta, soccorrete le intelligenze, riscaldate i cuori, non soffocate il lucignolo con

  5. Il mio messaggio era del tipoproprio voi che…” E non era nè pieno di lavoro, nè anonimo, nè inviato da un indirizzo inventato, nè aggressivo. Eppure non lo avete pubblicato!

    1. the answer, perché non lo abbiamo pubblicato: perché solo gli esseri disumani come lei, sedicenti pseudo e non meglio precisati “Catholic”, possono non trovare di meglio da fare che polemizzare sulla Chiesa e i suoi pastori oggi profondamente sofferenti, mentre la nostra Italia conta migliaia di morti.
      Ecco perché non diamo spazio a gente come lei e disumani affini.
      Sono stato chiaro?

      1. Caro father Ariel,
        Io non ho polemizzato affatto sulla Chiesa di cui faccio parte come battezzato, nè contro i suoi pastori, bensì contro alcuni di loro, cioè voi. E poi cosa vuol dire che i pastori sono sofferenti, forse che i laici non lo sono e non hanno diritto di esserlo allo stesso modo? Inoltre non ho polemizzato, ma solo fatto notare la incongruenza di un tale pontificare da un pulpito che si è espresso con parole indecenti nei confronti di vescovo in passate occasioni. Ma daltronde che si puó pretendere da un pastore che si rivolge al sottoscritto dandogli gratuitamente del disumano? Si rende conto di ció che dice? Lei insulta perché non ha argomenti e afferma falsità (cioè che io mi invento l’indirizzo e-mail) parimenti perchè non ha argomenti. Il suo atteggiamento e il suo linguaggio sono degni di un abitante della Suburra, non di un ministro di Dio. Lei usa la sua talare come arma o come scudo, as needed, anzichè servive l’abito che indossa. Sia serio e pubblichi il mio messaggio, questo e quello che ha censurato.

        1. «Lei usa la sua talare come arma o come scudo, as needed, anzichè servive l’abito che indossa. Sia serio e pubblichi il mio messaggio, questo e quello che ha censurato».

          Lei è una vergogna di cattolico, and that's.
          Un laico non può osare rivolgersi a questo modo a un presbìtero. Se io fossi ciò che lei dipinge, il compito di riprendermi e di redarguirmi, all’occorrenza semmai anche di sanzionarmi, spetta al mio Vescovo, non certo a un emerito cafone come lei.
          Non si sostituisca quindi alla legittima Autorità Ecclesiastica, perché lei non ne ha né il grado d’ordine sacramentale né la potestà.
          E casomai il mio Vescovo dovesse decidere di redarguirmi, mi chiamerebbe in privato, non oserebbe mai, neppure lui al quale io debbo devota obbedienza e filiale rispetto, tirarmi un badile di fango addosso sulla pubblica piazza come ha fatto lei, che pure ha la presunzione di ritenersi persino un autentico cattolico.
          Sono stato pedagogicamente e cristianamente chiaro?

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