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The cogitatorium Hypatia – Lefebvrians and borderline disorders: breaking unit generates non-unit

22 March 2015/16 Comments/in Actuality/by Hypatia

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Lefebvrians DISORDERS AND BORDERLINE: BREAKING THE UNIT GENERATES NON-UNIT

[…] the elders of the schismatic sect of Lefebvre accused in their official statement Bishop Richard Williamson and the Benedictine Jean Michel Faure, he consecrated bishop on 19 March 2015 in Brazil, Of … "No longer recognize the Roman authorities'.

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16 replies
  1. reginaldo says:
    26 March 2015 at 20:17

    Good evening Don ariel, time and manner not leaked but we continue to pray for the return of other brothers,the misfits mental continue to do the Zealots-nihilists building another church atuocefala

  2. Redazione dell'Isola di Patmos
    Drafting of the island of Patmos says:
    25 March 2015 at 12:35

    Dear Reginaldo.

    Not only do we rejoice, but we hope and pray especially for this to happen, because fractures of ecclesial communion are always dramatic, as evidence the story, They always have the one and only produce painful results of other fractures fractures.
    Who knows, so, that the next feast of Pentecost we reserve some unexpected surprise?

  3. reginaldo says:
    25 March 2015 at 11:54

    hello don ariel,This urban legend as you have defined it did not take a turn after the "schism in schism" but are several years that priests of the fraternity’ especially the French and Americans are leaked ,personally I do not like to speak from hearsay but my friendship I call highly credible and that in these years and not’ never exposed on qello that could happen to me said that williamson ordered the bishop to make a seminar to gather all the exiles and those who will come after the agreement that will sign’ Fellay,objectively what she says and’ that is true and’ true that Fellay has insulted the pope calling modernist but the streets of the ladies are endless and nothing prohibits the fraternity’ will return’ in full communion with the Holy See and as’ was for the FSSP in different ways obvious……….I think that this scenario should cheer ,Please personally because’ happen.
    sincerely yours

  4. Redazione dell'Isola di Patmos
    Drafting of the island of Patmos says:
    24 March 2015 at 23:43

    ... And the true masters forgiveness even in spite of their valuable time with her to explain - until now unfortunately inultilmente - following:

    1. that Vatican II is not an act of “diabolical apostasy from the faith” but an action of the Holy Spirit in the Church;
    2. that the Church today is in perfect continuity with the Church prior to Vatican II;
    3. that all the Popes that have followed from 1958 to date there are “in grave error” but are the legitimate successors of Peter and the guardians of the deposit of the Catholic faith;
    4. that the liturgical reform and the promulgation of the Missal of Paul VI did not in any way betrayed the earlier liturgical tradition, and that the substance of the Mass that celebrates and renews the Sacrifice of Christ has remained unchanged and that today in the churches is not celebrated at all a "Mass Protestantism“;
    5. that she, if he wants to be a devout Catholic, must accept the doctrine and the Magisterium of the Church and the authority of the Supreme Pontiff is now the Holy Father Francis.

    Etc ... etc ...

    She continues undaunted to send comments where one questions these and other key issues related to the teaching and the teaching of the Church, just going to re-read what I wrote earlier, to say nothing of what we have not published because we can not and we must not give way to free insults to the highest authorities of the Church and of his supreme magisterium.
    At this point you should ask yourself a question: in which pro use this space for comments as a personal "vent“?
    This is the reason why she has been called a brawler losing time - at the time - for the sake of wasting time, and all in a time of penance and conversion important as this Lent that is coming towards the end, a valuable time that could use much better, instead of fighting that Church should love - whether it is a Catholic - and the Supreme Pontiff who should revere as the legitimate successor of Peter, supreme teacher of doctrine and supreme guardian of the deposit of faith.

    What else do we need to add?
    Amen!

  5. father ariel
    Timorous says:
    24 March 2015 at 23:42

    I do not want to compete with any scholar! although "the donkey of Balaam" can teach to these illustrious.
    Modernism as a "synthesis of all heresies" says, I have reviewed all the Dogmas reading them with principles(?)taken from: Immanentism, Relativism, Historicism, Rationalism, etc., and to say: ONE THING: "The dogmas are evolutionary" POINT. I do not need anyone pigliarmela, I do not know why I should; even because, Mercy that I hope, I think I get it before giving it to others, or: everyone, modernists including, Therefore, S .... Paulinus of Nola urges to seek inspiration from the herd - and I think also from "Mickey Mouse"- then you can not escape the "drama" of anyone, as!. His brother with irony, and I see with: irresponsibility, has not spoken documents I mentioned, to know first, because one and the seedy part of the Church mentions them and the other party no? Not to silence the other, for inferences, as your: "Pick a fight" is not my style! My teachers, repeated one thing: "The real master is one who is able to communicate its culture, and in a targeted way for the less receptive ".

  6. Redazione dell'Isola di Patmos
    Drafting of the island of Patmos says:
    24 March 2015 at 23:39

    Do not think anything, because being a cat lay consecrated devoted to the study of philosophy and theology and care of cats poor suburbs existential feline, During Lent demands rigor penitential and avoids readings background comedian.

  7. father ariel
    Alex90 says:
    24 March 2015 at 23:37

    and why I think the cat pedantic as its masters?

    http://chiesaepostconcilio.blogspot.it/2015/03/vuoi-il-fumo-o-laria-pura.html

  8. Redazione dell'Isola di Patmos
    Drafting of the island of Patmos says:
    24 March 2015 at 21:27

    Dear Reginaldo.

    With sincere and deep respect: this “urban legend” who took a turn after “schism in the schism”, is not really standing, why sign means to accept unreservedly the doctrines of Vatican II. If Bernard Fellay did a thing, time a week there would be other divisions in the division of divisions … then other episcopal consecrations and so.
    Here it is not “in game” a speech “political strategies”, unfortunately this is treated by many this painful phenomenon; “in game” There are very serious doctrinal issues.
    Sign, as she says, would like to first of all say that Bernard Fellay should go penitent kneeling before the Holy Father and ask forgiveness for having publicly defined as “an authentic modernist”, that is, for accusing him of being the repository of all the worst heresies, because this is modernism: the synthesis of all heresies, as defined by St. Pius X on the basis of criteria that are still valid, rather, perhaps the most current and most dramatic yet than they were a century ago, because meanwhile, modernism, has developed, strengthened and solidified even within the same church and theological studies. The solution to modernism, is however not the lefebvrismo.

  9. reginaldo says:
    24 March 2015 at 21:12

    speeches are useless Fellay will sign, This has led williamson to ordain a bishop who collect all dissidents opposed to the brotherhood between acordi’ and Holy See

  10. Redazione dell'Isola di Patmos
    Drafting of the island of Patmos says:
    24 March 2015 at 20:35

    Dearest.
    Fair Enough. If anything, without forgetting that Christ Incarnate Word, then via, Truth and the Life, also for the Truth is dead, then to save us from sin, unfortunate that epitomizes all of our human errors and all our closures to the actions of the grace of the Holy Spirit of God.
    I Had a masterful Easter Triduum and a Exulte flamboyant to be involved in the death and resurrection, everything would be much simpler.
    The warning: “Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; have not come to bring peace, but a sword” (Mt 10), is one of the main reasons of the passion and death of our Lord Jesus Christ.

  11. adri says:
    24 March 2015 at 17:16

    We are now close to the Palm Sunday. It would not be the case, for everyone, to abandon any controversy, right or wrong, to get together with Christ in Jerusalem?
    And then accompany him in the heart with the suffering along the Calvary to finally enjoy the great glory of the Resurrection?
    Happy Easter of Resurrection to all!

  12. Redazione dell'Isola di Patmos
    Drafting of the island of Patmos says:
    24 March 2015 at 0:27

    She speaks of “simplistic readings”, believed to be able to sit on a stage together with a scholar of dogmatics and history of dogma, to meet and discuss with him, before a 200 People who listen, on the Pascendi Dominici Gregis and the problem very articulate modernism defined by St. Pius X as the synthesis of all heresies?
    You understand that the only say “executive summary” involves, only to start a speech on, the essential level knowledge of all the historical and theological evolution of complex and numerous heretical schools of thought developed in the nineteenth centuries of history in East and West, then put them historically and theologically in comparison with modernism? And if the va, all through the history and theological production of numerous Fathers of the Church.
    If modernism and the modernists are the imaginary enemies that she has created with four formulas confused because he needs someone with pigliarsela, in this case is likely to get out of that confrontation as a speck that after reading Mickey (ie Articles of semi-serious church&Postcouncil), has seen fit to go at the academy of astrophysics to discuss with physical theories about the expansion of the universe.
    To this his father replied elsewhere, to his commentary to another article, with amiable irony, in part to defuse in part because he could not take it seriously, because she is so determined to place himself in the position of not being taken seriously for what he says and how he says it, showing the first element of the blatant lack of knowledge of what presumebbe on which you can attach easily bothered …

  13. Timorous says:
    23 March 2015 at 22:38

    Why can not a pope “modernist heretic”?
    Do not answer me, however,, with the usual simplistic readings of the Gospel who would deified the pope always possesses infallible only because ( almost in a magical and superstitious) without talking about what are the modernists in the reality of ideas and facts. E’ inconceivable that you do not talk about the specifics of modernist Enc. Feeding, when it says eg. ” Modernists must be sought within the Church, contrary to His top” and then a ostendando autolaurea in Psicopatalogia, There bestows remote diagnosis, without thinking: that His primary duty of luminary unspeakable theology but especially a pastor , is to protect from poison modernist. About psychopathology, priests would be needed more crazy that dialogists to avoid “bang” if -as says s. Agostino-:” fools and children tell the truth” and if those sbattezza, instead of finding truth crazy but fascinating, located dialogists demented!
    Your Welcome,responds to Guarini, instead of preaching without listening to the torments of the flock http://chiesaepostconcilio.blogspot…

  14. Redazione dell'Isola di Patmos
    Drafting of the island of Patmos says:
    23 March 2015 at 22:25

    In his place, We first evaluate the kind of boss that the cat looks back, to Christian and charitable order to avoid the tragedy: it's her, to make a bad end.

  15. father ariel
    Verocattolico says:
    23 March 2015 at 22:23

    satanic cat one day you'll just end up badly …

  16. reginaldo says:
    23 March 2015 at 10:27

    I wanted to let you know that Don ariel williamson has consecrated a bishop because’ Fellay sta’ signing agreements and inside the Vatican fratenita’ for this reason there will’ a split between’ who will return’ in full communion with the Holy See, and who will do’ a kind of Ecône 2.0 with the new bishop-
    sincerely yours

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