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"If this is a priest". The bizarre and embarrassing case of Don Ettore Cannavera and his a-catholic and a-theological belief
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A priest – letter signed
Dear Father Ivano,
I am a diocesan priest and I read this article with great bitterness.
Unfortunately I have to say that our diocese also has at least one priest who is in similar conditions: a me, in front of laymen, he said from 20 years he is no longer sure of being a Christian and perhaps not even a believer, does not believe in the divinity of Christ e, obvious, not even in the Trinity; he does not believe in the afterlife and of course not even in the resurrection…
He concluded by saying that he has no hope and does not want to.
Stammering (he was my teacher of dogmatics, but at the time he said something else) I told him: "Look, I can only pray for you!»
«Please don't pray it brings bad luck» (sic).
Of course it is held in high regard by the chiefs who, until it became available, they entrusted him with the meditations of our retreats (I told him as long as he kept them, I would not have attended).
He was guaranteed the Sunday Holy Mass where he spreads poisons, errors, heresies…
I talked about it with the bishop, reply: “«Massii you know how it is don […], they tell me there are many people at that Mass….»
I replied: "They are his…»
"It's not a problem!» replies the bishop.
"Excellence, I have fulfilled my duty to educate her, now the ball is in his hands. see her».
Nothing happened, they passed 4 year old…
Furthermore, his homilies are on a site maintained by his parents, or maybe his fans.
However, sometimes I also pray for him…
the Lord just judge knows how to behave and I have nothing to teach Him.
Best wishes to all of you
the Priests who intervene and/or converse on The Island of Patmos they always sign, with some exceptions. For example like in this case. For if the priest were to put his own name, it would make identifiable both the diocese and the people used to depict very specific facts and situations. Because in certain speeches and discussions the facts count, the paradigm matters, not the people who are protagonists of it
Andrea Del Seta
Gent.mo e Rev.mo P. Ivano,
perhaps a silly question, maybe silly, maybe naive.
I'll tell you first of all how I met you (not in person) years ago Father Ariel. I met him because he wrote an article (in my humble opinion clear and decisive) contesting that card. Bagnasco celebrated, in a grotesque situation, the one you mentioned in your article don Andrea Gallo.
A strong article, but true. A dutiful reminder, by a tough priest, to a high prelate and then president of the CEI, which as predictable found itself among red flags, diehard communists, and even transsexuals who gave eulogies in church next to the altar.
Father Ariel especially highlighted the sacrilegious communions, and then everything else.
A few days later a release of dissociation signed by his bishop came out.
But Father Ariel had only told the truth, nothing but the truth!
Since then I have always read the articles of this talented theologian and, Isle of Patmos, and to you all, I owe thanks if I could correctly understand and interpret the Holy Scriptures, the Magisterium and the doctrine of the Church.
I am a graduate in literature and subsequently graduated from the Higher Institute of Religious Sciences, in three years of courses no one has ever taught me what I learned from you, sound doctrine and sound theology.
So, explain to me, if you can: for Father Ariel scolding a cardinal for that pitiful representation, a notice of dissociation is issued (perhaps because it touched a powerful cardinal of the time?), to a priest who instead signs in favor of the referendum on euthanasia and who has an idea of the church and a doctrine all his own, not even a shred of communication?
Or am I confused, or am I naive.
Father Ivano, to whom it is addressed, will answer your question, while i, summoned, I answer for myself, having you quoted in a precise and truthful way a painful fact dating back to 2013.
It wasn't me who made a bad impression, but the Bishop who signed that communiqué improvidently for the following reasons:
1. he was no longer my Diocesan Ordinary as he was moved to another see and already titular of that episcopal see assigned to him, so he didn't have any power rectory about me;
2. in that communiqué defined as "ridiculous" and "rough" by the highest leaders of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura from whom I immediately asked for enlightenment, no reference was made to any violated article of the Code of Canon Law, not having violated any of them at all;
3. the Bishop who succeeded in that see – that is, the Bishop of my diocese – proceeded to remove that statement which was not properly published on the official website of the diocese but on the “personal page” of the Vicar General, who certainly considered me the most wonderful priest in the whole presbytery. And had it removed, the bishop, deeming that text clearly harmful not only to my good reputation (can. 220 of the Code of Canon Law) but also to the image of the diocese and the memory left by his predecessor who was the proponent of this as well as various others … impulsive-passionate jokes.
The press release to which you refer was taken out and exploited several times by people who, unable to deny me the merits of my correct statements in the context of the doctrine of the faith, for this they tried to attack me sideways, but with total failure.
In my years of priesthood I have never been recalled in any capacity by the Ecclesiastical Authority and I have never been subjected to condemnations and canonical penalties of any kind. So in the current state of affairs I am an impeccable presbyter on a human level, moral and doctrinal, everything until proven otherwise not easy.
Unfortunately, In the 2018, after 5 years of silence I was forced to defend myself from that press release because it began to circulate on social network by some people in bad faith who are deeply hostile to me. To defend myself I was forced to tell the truth publicly, nothing but the truth. You can find it if you want in the second part of this painful and grieving article on which none, years later, he never let out a sigh of dissent, having expressed only regret and nothing but the truth.
This is so, anyone who said otherwise would be blatantly lying.
I would like to be able to answer your question comprehensively, yet I fear that you and I will have to settle for the pneumatic vacuum that I see more and more frequently hovering within many diocesan curias.
Logica wants a statement from a diocesan bishop or his curia to be issued in view of a well-defined need, need or in any case urgency that has the character of urgency. Indeed, for other types of ordinary communications there are different channels and methods. The communiqué is an important and rare instrument and if it is issued it must be taken with due consideration by the faithful.
But let us also assume that a diocese chooses to use the press releases with generous generosity to inform the faithful on various issues. Now the most appropriate question in this case would be another. That is, what are the things considered important for a bishop and his curia for the good of the Church, of the faithful and the health of the soul of the people of God?
Let me explain, if a bishop is aware of a heterodox priest and in formal excommunication because of his acts, actions, publicly expressed and defended thoughts and writings, it is normal and logical to think of an immediate intervention to warn the faithful and thus avoid the danger of scandal for the faith. If we think that some diocesan announcements are of a disconcerting banality, a case like the one described in my article should take precedence over everything.
But if this does not happen, I see the motivation expressed for two basic reasons: or the bishop does not consider a correction necessary because he does not recognize any formal error, so there is no reason to correct; or he supports the work of his priest and shares his erroneous ideas and therefore is his accomplice.
The third possibility exists but we should think badly and sin. Indeed, the most logical thing would be that the bishop does not feel like challenging these unmanageable priests who have no qualms about making fun of all those who do not think like them and being children of this world they are very shrewd and skilled at using worldly tools to leave their shepherds "in canvas breeches"..
And we see many of these examples, so you prefer to make the best of a bad situation. And in the face of so many toothy episcopal smiles today we notice many bad games that will remain so for a long time to come.
Elderly Genoese presbyter
Dear young confrere priest of the Capuchin Order,
always and carefully I read you.
I Got 82 years and when I was 26 (let's go back by 56 year old, exactly per year 1965), I have been a priest for a year, shy at the time, even a little’ clumsy, but also a little’ donkey, I slipped talking about the SS. Trinity and without wanting to express the millenarian concept for which Gioacchino da Fiore was condemned.
I wasn't even assistant pastor, I was chaplain.
The pastor reported to the archbishop, that without any advertising, and without the whole thing being known around, not even in the presbytery itself, gave me this medicinal punishment: for three months I was forbidden to preach, and the Sunday, the Mass, I could only celebrate it in private, and for six months I was suspended from the ministry of confessor, place that was allowed to me at that age (other times!) only confess male children not older than 14 year old.
My archbishop was card. Giuseppe Siri, which I venerated in life and which I venerate today in death.
He was right, to do what he did, and today, a 82 years played, I am always grateful and grateful to him.
My sentence is over, he sent me to Rome, all'Angelicum, he made me do specialist studies in dogmatic theology, which worked out well, so he also wanted me to do a doctorate.
I have been a teacher in public schools for years and also in the seminary.
This speaking of me and my bishop. Instead, as regards the other priests of today and the bishops of today, You said it all, there is nothing else to add.
I bless you and You bless me.
An elderly Genoese presbyter
Father Michael M. o.p.
The rooster is dead
He won't say co co di anymore
What what will (*)
and instead little roosters grow and multiply on the right and on the left (especially on the left) without anyone checking the chicken coop anymore
(*) N.d.R. – Famous French children's song: «The rooster is dead and will no longer say crocodied and crocodied»
Don Stefano Ferrini
Dear, lucid and courageous father Ivano, first of all thank you!
The problem is not these subjects who speak, but our bishops who are silent, except then break the c….. (as Father Ariel would say without dots) to us who give life, or that we at least try to give it, to be priests in at least a decent way.
Let's remember each other in prayer.
I congratulate Father Ivano on this article whom I met years ago at the Brotzu hospital in Cagliari where my father died in oncology. He and Father Giancarlo were wonderful with him and us family.
Andrea Efisio Ledda
Jonathan Grisolia – FB
And you haven't seen anything yet…look for “Don Paolo Zambaldi” (don in many quotes), he even has a blog where he spreads his … “verb” very personal
Jonathan Fiorino – FB
When I read these things, comes to mind (even if the context may be different), the famous phrase “…God's name is blasphemed on your account among the Gentiles” (RM, 2, 24).
The hypocrisy of Christians is a disaster both for the Church, both for those who are outside.