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Note of clarification on some ambiguous words of the Holy Father: Man needs God, but God does not need man

8 June 2017/26 Comments/in Actuality/by Drafting

― We help the Holy Father with childlike clarity ―

NOTE ABOUT SOME clarifying AMBIGUOUS WORDS OF THE HOLY FATHER: MAN OF GOD NEED, BUT GOD HAS NO NEED OF MAN

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We simply can not even suspect that the Holy Father has heard such things, although his way of expressing himself was not the happiest, and would have required, in our opinion, at least some clarification. Moreover, the Holy Father would not hurt to warn against the risk of an interpretation which leads to pantheism and to atheism, very widespread today.

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Giovanni Cavalcoli o.p. – Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo

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If you were hungry, you would not say it [Shall 50,12]

Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? [Gb 38,4]

To whom did he consult, because I instruct? [Is 40,14]

 

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Hearing of 7 June 2017 – to open the video click on the image

In the general audience of 7 June, the Holy Father pronounced the following words:

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«[…] the gospel of Jesus Christ reveals to us that God can not be without us: He will never be a God "no man"; it is he who can not stay without us, and this is a great mystery! God can not be God without man: great mystery is this! And this certainty is the source of our hope, that we kept in all invocations Our father» [Official text WHO].

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These words You could at first make us to mind the famous thesis of Hegel: "God without the world is not God". If it really was, it would be very serious statement, fraught with disastrous consequences on the theological and on the moral level, since it is clear that God is completely sufficient in Himself and can well exist without man. And indeed, They, there was already perfect, Blessed and completely alone and the Self, from eternity, before He created the world. He is supreme perfection, infinite and absolute. The Nothing can be added. Nothing Short of. The Nothing you can donate. What The gifts we give are the ones who gave us. Since nothing its essence can be completed, even the most sublime creatures. God is Absolutely Necessary, while the man is contingent creature. He is all for Himself; the creatures are nothing in themselves and, all that the creature is, it is from God.

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He certainly is Love by essence, He gave his Son for our salvation, but always it remains that could have very well not to exercise this love to the world, Why, If she wanted to, It might not create it.

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God created the world out of pure love and an act of perfectly free advice - utmost freedom ―, as the Vatican Council says, it created for pure and selfless love, without being absolutely necessitated by the structure of its essence, as well as instead they operate physical agents subhuman.

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To think that God, to exist, needs the active contribution or ideal man, Why he can't do it alone, He leads man to believe they can be essential to God and to shape the essence of God, that God becomes an idol, "Work of human hands' [Shall 135, 15], product of human thought, come in idealism. Hence the temptation of believing man or a god to identify with God or take God. Or to put it in other words: if man were not there, God would not.

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In the literature of spirituality of Ashkenazi Jews, some rabbanim [the LORD] They tell us that "God had such a need to be loved and honored, that at some point he decided to create man in his own image and likeness, so that man would love and honor him". It deals with, naturally, an expression of the whole poetic. Although as we know, in theology, and especially in the dogmatic theology, the poetic licenses, however beautiful, and sometimes also effective to make the idea, They may be non-hazardous infrequently, if not explained, but most if not explained well and as such, ie as poetic licenses.

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Now, we can not even suspect that the Holy Father has heard such things, although his way of expressing himself was not the happiest, and would have required, in our opinion, at least some clarification. Moreover, the Holy Father, it would not hurt to warn against the risk of an interpretation which leads to pantheism and to atheism, Today both very popular.

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The Holy Father's words They can then be understood in a mystical-affective-operational sense and also as referring to the mystery, in three ways:

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first, in a mystical-affective sense: It is like the language of lovers, as when the lover says to his beloved "without you I can not stand '. Or as when one says all'altra or viceversa: "I adore you". Word that makes the idea of ​​what it means to expression of deep emotional level, but in theological language has a meaning and above all a "application" very precise, because only God can be the object of adoration, unless otherwise run the serious risk of falling in idolatry.

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Second, in Christ God has in some way to be in need of man. It shows Christ who asks for a drink to the Samaritan [cf. GV 4, 1-26], and even more it shows its request for cooperation all’opera of salvation, although then our free response is a gift of his mercy.

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Third, the words of the Holy Father must be understood as referring to the mystery of the Incarnation: God has united Himself in Christ forever to man, and nothing will ever separate this union. The union therefore of God with man in Christ, however, is a necessity in fact, not in law. If the concepissimo as a fusion of the two human and divine natures, we would fall in heresy Christological contrary to the dogma of the distinction of the two natures of the Council of Chalcedon.

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This awareness, the Holy Father tells us, God in Christ it is forever linked to man, It is certain for us the source of great confidence in the Father, consolation and hope, which, however, must not exceed in a false certainty to save in each case and without conditions, canceling a holy fear of God, because it always remains in each of us the responsibility to pay or not to so much love, Why, if there sottraessimo with sin, the work of redemption would be of no use to us. Recall the famous words of St. Augustine: « He who created you without you, he doesn't save you without you ».

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