Rete4 “Straight and Reverse”: Father Ariel S.. Levi Gualdo is not one who loses his temper, if it does not for emotional impulse but calibrated choice. And if you invite a lion in an arena it is unlikely that they face domestic kitten
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Don Ariel has done well to go and I is not sorry, quite the opposite. Why not go back ?
Although I wish that broadcasts such as those disappear and not look at them any more, I believe that the presence of the Father Ariel has had a positive effect: Also the general public was able to see that there are still priests healthy mind, orthodox, who wear the cassock, who refuse to be intimidated by anyone, and that, above all, they're young. These things they demolish a large number of urban myths.
I am not good with words…
simply I express my thanks to Don Ariel…
He said the truth in a television program where you do not hear her pronounce aspects.
I hoped that vibrated in the hearts of all listeners…
Epper not everyone has ears to hear…
Dear don Ariel, according to me as she is engaged, the message that is passed from the transmission is that the Church is a repository of perversion and aberrations, that almost all the priests in the studio, “married and single” were agreed and that only a “poor crazy” very much in the minority still thinks”old-fashioned”. The message that the authors wanted to get across is exactly what has gone. The church apart from a few meager and insignificant pocket of resistance, is intended to “modernize”. This is certainly not the way to evangelize.
Massimiliano Conti
only a "poor fool" absolutely in the minority still thinks "old-fashioned"
In fact this is true: we are in the minority, mica hide. If this is so we must take note, mica ony. But the important news that has passed is that this minority exists, because many think it is gone. I know Ariel's father for years (electronically) and I'm not surprised that he does or says, but every time I see the papers (once on TV) a strange priest who tells it like it is, I rejoice. So I think a lot of people who did not know his father Ariel will rejoice to hear the other day. And now you can find a point of reference for understanding what is going.
Dear Fabrizio,
Mr.. Massimo Conti is a neocatechumenal Lasted&pure he held me to criticisms based on falsehood and not infrequently in the comments insulting to the two articles in which it was presented my book critical of The Neocatechumenal Sect.
This, against the other, denotes that The Island of Patmos not only public comments in which we defined good, clear, beautiful and wonderful … which in itself speaks volumes, on our way to give voice to all, including critical voices, including voices even insulting. But to appreciate what, must not have intelligence that certain.
We are therefore subject before-humoral so illogical and so prejudiced towards me angry to the point that, if according to the most orthodox doctrine and flawless criteria I should make a keynote on the dogma of the Assumption into Heaven of the Blessed Virgin Mary, getting it to the acclaim by the International Theological Commission and an invitation to breakfast at Martha House Sancthae by Pope, he and his settaristi would attack me in every way, at all costs and whatever the cost, for bias, because everything I say and do is attacked, because I dared to criticize their patently heretical sect. So that, if I difendessi the Christological dogma by screaming Arian heretics that Christ is true God and true man, begotten not made of the same substance as the Father, be certain that and of the tekiti They would find a way to make me fit and fleas, just like the old Pharisees, to which they have given back to life so well.
I wish the members of this intra-ecclesial sect had towards me deep respect and sincere to me that showed most amiable man of Giuseppe Cruciani, which leads the radio program The mosquito , which is all to say. Indeed, Giuseppe Cruciani, not going to play with your “Holy Spirit” infused personnel to settaristi by Kiko Arguello and Carmen Hernandez heretics, had towards me than during and after transmission.
All comments Mr.. Accounts can find them here below at the end of these articles:
https://isoladipatmos.com/stage/dalla-grande-sabrina-interpretata-da-audrey-hepburn-alla-piccola-sabrina-bosu-che-mette-in-scena-le-note-manipolazioni-dei-neocatecumenali-dopo-una-indigesta-colazione-da-tiffany/
https://isoladipatmos.com/stage/novita-la-setta-neocatecumenale-leresia-si-fece-kiko-e-venne-ad-abitare-in-mezzo-a-noi/
In short, an example of preclaro … “by fruits ye shall know the tree”.
Gentile (so to speak) father ariel,
In my comment, as everyone has to see I have not offended, as well as ever I did (I invite guests to this blog to find an offensive remark written by me). In all the comments to his post have been critical of him but never offensive, as opposed to her who never misses a chance to topple his envy and hatred of those who think like her, or he does not have his academic qualifications. In the commentary to this article, which obviously did not understand, I praised his good will, but this was not enough in my opinion to pass a message other than what the authors wanted it to pass. Anyway thank you, with his previous comment they all got to know her better.
Massimiliano Conti
None of his mega-catechists neokatekiki one has ever taught that due to people – in this case to me – what I have never said and written, evading questions, changing topics, scrambling and, at last, overthrow everything and accuse others of not responding, It is the absolute worst insult?
Yup, the worst: the insult to human intelligence.
What of which she has given proof in dozens of comments: were addressed repeatedly clear and precise application, she never answered, It overthrew the questions and finally has repeatedly accused the interlocutors not to answer.
Until it intends to continue with this shell game?
He has not yet realized that her three poor cards has now discovered under the eyes of all?
Obviously Mr. Fabrizio, this minority there and I myself I have the honor to be part of, but in my opinion these drives are designed to table much more cunning than any of us authors and guests well calibrated, surprise guests and the host of a certain type, they manage to get across the message that they want. In this case it is commendable zeal demonstrated by Father Ariel (which for me has only words of hatred…), but in the end the image of the church that has passed is always the same.
… They have taken lessons in this regard by the founders of the Neocatechumenal Way, that called to Rome by the Popes and their prefects to be reprimanded and asked to fall in line, They came out and announced to all their people: “We have been approved … the Church approves it”.
In short: you have made school!
Dear Conti,
It seems that she has a grudge against Father Ariel because everything he says or does not returns just NEVER.
Is this, It is impossible, It is typical personal un'insopportazione.
The I point out that his idol, Kiko Arguello did something similar to Family Day the 2015 When, in the minority, He made whole tirade about femicide and you osannaste boldness against everything and everyone, considering he was bringing the truth (according to your thoughts).
Soprassiediamo on considerations about that intervention, I do not want this to arouse controversy, but only to emphasize that in this case the claims unpopular expression by the minority were not criticized, MA applaud. see her.
The modernization of the Church of which you speak is one of the worst tendencies of recent times, In fact, the Church pours into chaos as ever. Every innovator, even inexperienced, He can tell her.
Imagine…
The Church is “rest” because you do not care numbers (as you), but the doctrine of Health: that is the “rest”.
Where researching and flaunting the number, already reeks of false.
Everyone listens and understands the sensitivity and insight that.
The poor fool looks impressively to Jesus Christ, who called crazy and worse.
The evil is always more noise and buzz of good; This is known.
Although for us to be a minority… a “rest”; Fair Enough? E’ an absolute pride.
I've been many years in the journey, Kiko not defined “the rest”, by the way, now that I think of it? You should know that!
How, it is also forgot about this, Now she loves to flaunt success and numbers: (all vanity and vexation!) and make census and counted and ricontarsi, I forget the terrible punishment that struck David and, because of him, all his people for the damn fixed census! Yet even David had been warned!
More prosaically add, better few and that many good and bad.
But I still thank Father Ariel for his courage, for his uncompromising commitment to defend the truth of the Faith and the Sana and Right Doctrine.
And with Arbore: unless we're better and we're proud of.
resistance bag and call it a auspichi for the Church “modernization”.
The Church is alive and young forever his, in the image of the Virgin Mary, It should not be modernized the Church, related concepts and crossing, The church must always be renewed!
Watch a little.
But I still thank Father Ariel for his courage, for his uncompromising commitment to defend the truth of the Faith and the Sana and Right Doctrine.
Pax, free and other anonymous, your response denote comments have a prejudice against me. No worries, definitely do not make a good showing respect for the reader, because anyone can realize that you have not understood what I wrote, you were so busy writing foaming at the mouth with hatred towards me.
It is true Mr.. Fabrizio: “by fruits ye shall know the tree” and recent comments to me are an example.
Massimiliano Conti.
“Pax, free and other anonymous”, They collected by the grace of God, a precious fruit, and extraordinary: due to chemotherapy of the true Catholic faith, They are freed from that dangerous sectarian cancer called Neocatechumenal, a tree recognized for half a century – this tree infected – just by the fruit it gave.
About Yoriko, who but some clowns could participate in such a television program “cul-tural-popular”? Dear my friend Ariel, Only a narcissist might be tickled by a fox as the creator and host of that crap and be able to fall in trappolone who tended you. Accepting participation has produced something good? No: each of unscrewed, sitting in front of cameras, heterodirected from piper-conductor, It expressed its case badly, with the conclusion to be arrived at “nothingness” regularly accompanied by fake applause, as always befits.
But the important thing is that all participants, the day after, they gloried in “having gone on television”: but to do what???? clowns!!!
So, in your opinion, I was not able to pass, in that high-risk situation, messages that were passed and the only way it was possible to pass them?
but yet, His article in this, Father Ivano him so well explained, to those who want to understand.
Good.
Next time I will go somewhere Ghettarello tradi-Catholic, to talk to 10 people, in closed rooms. I will make a keynote on the great moral-theological production of the holy Bishop and Doctor of the Church Alphonsus’ Liguori. I'll throw in copious Latin quotations and references to Greek and Latin Fathers of the Church, since the Cappadocian Fathers.
And I will speak softly, softly with narrowed eyes, in a state of semi-ecstasy.
I am assured that doing so, the general public which is located outside the Pio ghettarello, He will understand that the moral Catholic priest who left the priesthood to marry a man performs an aberration that can not and should not be accepted, Despite the trends of this world.
She is doubly hard: Brain and heart.
But that's his problem, not mine.
P.S.
The audience cheered on command, this statement is totally false.
Leave them to their fate, dearest father Ariel, these contrarian at all costs.
Others can not do that groped to accuse her of leadership, say that she is the fame and notoriety hunting, who wants to make a career, and more. The only sure thing: she, and his brothers, It is for them to stumble. Because for the very existence and being as you are brought to light and reported their bad habits. Compared to its open complaints and to all his work in defense of right doctrine of the Church and her Magisterium, they oppose that she would be a narcissist. And I do not I take just any connection.
I have a feeling that these now are getting their, the usual cheering worshipers of that peacock Kiko Arguello. Other than narcissistic!
Pax
Thank you to all who still defend, also vehemently, the true Doctrine.
Rumor has it that our dear father Ariel has been contacted by RAI to participate as an actor in a new and interesting TV dramas: “Career of a simple priest”, which he tells of the miraculous rise of a priest who became Pope. It seems that our beloved Ariel has already signed with great interest after reading the script; the only condition laid down by our great actor can bring his cassock, the Saturn and the red shoes. We look spasmodic waiting for the trailer. To greater!
Dear Sir,
the rumor is true but incomplete.
It must indeed know that this Pope – in this case I – transform the apostolic palace in a cheerful Renaissance court, in which role will have privileged space and the figure of the court jester, in this case she, Mr. Domenico Sasso, I have proposed to the production as a condition to sign the contract.
Would I please not refuse, Just be contacted, because otherwise it would jump all over.
I long since I do not watch television anymore, exceptions, and certainly I do not watch the broadcasts such as those set. I do not have the stomach to see andarmi registration, So my comment is certainly weakened by this lack.
Said this, I believe that priests should raise his voice when necessary and even pull some loving slap, as it would make a good father. Don Camillo docet. the Mr.(in)and who believe that Christianity is reduced to Msgr manual. Dellacasa contributed greatly to the destruction of the Church.
So I express my closeness to Don Ariel.
A little word of Retequattro. I do not think the big surprise of gay priests was devised only to listen to logic: throughout the month of October, “Family Month”, They tell me that Retequattro has aired commercials with “gay families”. Mediaset RAI indeed anticipated decline in morals.
I thank Father Ivano for the enlightening article, written with heart and sensitivity, that helps to contextualize the intervention of Father Ariel transmission.
Father I thank Ariel for the courage and passion to bring the Church, He also managed to wrest the applause more than once: a sign that people expect and shares this passion hotly in favor of Truth. I felt outrage, but a form of relief from the audience, and sharing.
I thank you because today more than ever we need this: courage and strength, full awareness of their mission and vocation, in a time of uncertainty and reckless permissiveness.
Thank you for giving us believers infuse your strength and you are there reference, also this rare thing these days. We are not alone, we are not out of place or out of time. We show that we are where we need to be, although often under attack.
Thank you very much.
Yup, excellent talk of the Father Ivano. Thank you.
I saw myself the entire transmission, and add a couple of things compared to what has already been said.
1. I think the biggest problem is not the miserable human figures, more or less macchiettistiche, of married priests and / or partners who were taken in the studio, but the leaders of the Catholic Church who ordained them. Took, as they say, dogs and pigs. I am reminded, making a historical comparison, don Lorenzo Milani, with all the problems attached to his story: even him, that, a right that its Ordinary Time, the Bishop Mons. Ermenegildo Florit, that Don Milani made green in every way, It was a deranged. One that NEVER EVER – this I say – It should have been a priest. See Island, who: https://isoladipatmos.com/stage/supplica-al-sommo-pontefice-santita-non-andate-a-rendere-omaggio-ad-un-cattivo-maestro-lorenzo-milani/
I and, History must always go in a certain way.
2. They even frightened the faces of the audience in the studio. How bad shape our people, that goes to programs like this.
Don Lorenzo Milani was not free from human limitations and ideological prejudices which inevitably has conditioned his priestly ministry and his educational work. In his own way he recognized him. Having said that the one has to recognize that you never dreamed of leaving his cassock and misery of Barbiana. And not they would miss several and brightest prospects.
@Andrea
…I just said, Don Milani, that they had better not do that priest.
This because, as it explained in detail in the linked text, his thinking was characterized by the systematic Mutiny on the upper, the apology of revolutionary violence, of the class struggle, the shedding of the blood of the enemies of the people, the armed struggle of the Red Brigades and even die - but that his superiors Dalla Costa and Florit were not aware - the proud claim of homosexual and pedophilic impulses (the whole thing is of course documented in the various chapters of the dossier).
More, Mons. he wrote Florit, rightly, it was an unbalanced. In reality, once unluckily made priest, After what he did in Calenzano – Also documented in this dossier – since it was a dangerous ideologue, They were better spretarlo, not to send him to do damage to the people of another place. But there were other times, it is seen that it was not possible.
I know better than to make a fault in Dalla Costa and Florit, that both have suffered from the affair milaniana.
Dear Fathers,
inspired by reading the article that introduced clear and enlightening way the intervention of Father Ariel in the TV show and watching the action on TV, I could not feel refreshed in spirit for recognizing the beauty, ardor, the zeal and the infinite power of the truth that is proper to the Church, Mother and Bride of Christ.
And of this I want to thank: in these difficult times for the Church and also of difficult personal combat, I could see the realization of the words of the ” lift up the inert hands and the feeble knees and walk right by your feet, because the foot that limps will not be maimed, but rather be healed”.
May the Lord sustain you in this good fight and in your priestly service, as a harbinger for me and for many other spiritual support, the care of the soul and the resurrection hope.
This article Ivano father who defends and justifies ignoramus Mr.. Ariel comportatosi like a madman tangled drug that works as a bouncer at a nightclub is worse than the transmission itself.
Dear Mr. X.je11,
she simply wrong to select between the pages of our magazine.
The articles in which anonymous Neocatechumenal insult for two months Father Ariel S. Levi Gualdo for his book The Neocatechumenal Sect finds them to the pages indicated below. Therefore, the insults neokatekiki to Father Ariel, there should be written, I already have several hundred.
Thank you for your kind cooperation, and a prayer for all of us in Santa Carmen Hernandez virgin and martyr.
https://isoladipatmos.com/stage/dalla-grande-sabrina-interpretata-da-audrey-hepburn-alla-piccola-sabrina-bosu-che-mette-in-scena-le-note-manipolazioni-dei-neocatecumenali-dopo-una-indigesta-colazione-da-tiffany/
https://isoladipatmos.com/stage/novita-la-setta-neocatecumenale-leresia-si-fece-kiko-e-venne-ad-abitare-in-mezzo-a-noi/
Rev. Father Ivano,
Ariel's father is a man who has passed, inside the Church, through hard trials and tribulations, He is understood by reading his books, beautiful as content and writing style, and I read them all.
I do not know him personally, I hope one day to have the great pleasure to know him, But I am sure that such a man, get close to if, and working, with priests as she, Father Gabriel and the hermit monaco, It is very important.
From your writings you understand that you are deeply united, You understand that you work hard for the Church, for us his followers to follow you and, by reading, we are not lost. I write “are” Why, how you have helped me to do so, I am sure that you have helped many others. Maybe, how many thousands and thousands of people, you did a great asset.
In this program, Ariel's father proved what: also loving and above all when he decided it would be prudent to be severe.
With those … unspeakable priests, who flaunted their … “husbands”, What else should do?
Lady Anna,
with the wise feminine sensibility, she described all, and did so in a lucid and precise.
Dear Father Ivano,
that your article is useful and valuable in all its descriptive parts, It seems written by an expert of science communication that explains the workings of the medium of live television.
Can I tell You that all priests with whom I spoke, in principle if they have made merry, as if they felt redeemed honor the priesthood by Father Ariel.
No One, He showed discomfort and disappointment, at least all those with whom I spoke.
Dialogue / warning screamed Father Ariel angrily toward the poor priest left the Catholic Church, “married” with a man and passed to an unspecified Church “Cattolica” progressive, It was a poignant tenderness, that only we priests of a certain age (I have 71 year old) we can understand. In the father's rebuke Ariel words were profound love.
Riguardatevi the scene and notice the sad look that, suddenly, the priest took “married” when Father Ariel yelled “brother” then “I pray for you that you will always be a priest, forever”.
I can not know what the audience at home and may have understood, but these words pierce like a sword any priest, even the worst. Indeed, the poor fellow, He had a very sad look.
I am sure that if one day he had an afterthought, the first one will definitely try Father Ariel.
Thanks so much for this father Ivano Your article really enlightening.
Don Claudio,
I also noticed that you have shown. The first of the poor priests verbally assaulted by Father Ariel (that “married” the Canaries) It not defended, he managed to say just two words, He remained helpless before his reproaches all based on references to the salvation of his soul. Perhaps, in the depths of his priestly consciousness blurred or, perhaps, totally dormant, even if only on a subconscious level it has been touched by those words, in front of which, his air, He was deeply disturbed, her sad look, just review the video to notice.
Quite another thing another, one that showed off their “handsome boy” … what a desolation!
This second, really it looked like a demon possessed, proud of its shameful sin and with the haunted look.
I too am afraid that a guy like father Ariel, out of a live television, Perhaps he would put his hands on, and also it did very badly.
Father Ivano, with the depth of his spirituality of cappuccino and a priest monk, It has made an important contribution to all, explaining how certain things take place, and that no one can be shocked if, dragged into an arena, a lion does its “craft” lion.
… the fact that the “ex” priest, As striking showy “fag bell”, He has dared to say to Father Ariel “We do not know what you have underneath that robe”, It showed the hysterical inability to measure the tomboy before him.
Being obviously a live television merely say “I do not want to know … I do not want to know …”. And when he insisted ordered: “If you knew the police would come to take me away”.
If Ariel's father had not been to a live television, from his mouth would outputs poems as to blush “er Carbonaro” put in place of the Marquis del Grillo to make fun of all the noble family.
Dear Don Ciro,
I see that you know well Father Ariel.
I think if it had not been to a live television, al “priest” extolling how beautiful was his “husband”, him to become heterosexual slapped.
Did you notice that the hands have blades, the … Seraphic Father Ariel, on its physical size?
…”Whether or cold or hot, because the lukewarm vomit you from my mouth”..
All participants in the transmission, the aberration and blasphemy, orthodoxy and fidelity and love for the Church were incandescent or glacial.
All but the unbearable and weary figure of the priest Campania, the worst of all, senseless and insipid.
Thank you for your kind words, edifying and comforting.
The next time she is, a live television, with difficult issues and unexpected high risk people, to illustrate, through his uncommon talent, as it must juggle in a very delicate situation.
We will all treasure his example and his teaching.
Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo
if in “arena” to defend what little remains of the dignity of the church and the priesthood, There should not be a tough guy as a father Ariel, Who should go there? Perhaps some secular (I do not do names, for the sake of my cardiovascular system) that speaks of the church as if it were his property, and all, of pure personal political purposes?
Themselves. Angelo … is serious!
Father Ivano Many thanks for this article that explained everything well, to all those who at least want to and want to understand.
Father Ariel Estimated,
gentle Don Bruno Fini,
place that ”you should only write or think for those who are better than us” I'm afraid that it was not clear, I will try to explain better.
interpretation i ”hot” with fiery zeal as those who defend the Bride of Christ without fear, as indeed did the father Ariel.
I call those cold, albeit in aberration and immersed in sin, have the courage (or cockiness?..) to act in the open and without apology face; this shows, at least in principle, who possess the ”attributes”, even if-feminine; It is the case of the poor priest who lives in the Canary Islands.
The warm, instead, He appeared as the Campanian priest dressed in the light blue and gray clergyman whose intervention was, in my humble opinion, quite…tasteless.
The Father Ariel reproach made me realize that maybe though, my judgment, I have expressed in too hard, without charity and without regard to who were also necessary prudence and restraint when dealing with cases there exposed…
In this case I regret and I'll say in confession.
Thank you for this valuable article.
Thank you for giving fundamental interpretations.
I had seen only a piece, the transmission of Del Debbio, and I confess to being upset and sore output. The former priests stories, they call the same-sex partners “my husband” , you can not hear.
Article it emphasizes one thing that I found enlightening and profoundly true:
The priest is lacking in his duty to celibacy or chastity in fact shows
“weakness from the point of view of faith and of sacramental grace that was with sacred ordination has received and who are called to respond”.
I thank Father Ivano and the journalists and all the priests of your communities to exist.
Pax
Many thanks to the wise and deep Ivano father that made us this important report. In the first part Ivano father explains that we priests are not made for certain television space. E’ vero!
In incisively, our valiant cappuccino reminds us very well and we explained to everyone:
"The immediacy of television language, the suddenness of his time with direct and tight schedules are an insidious trap in which the priest falls very easily. There is in fact little to do: to stay on television must have the physique du rôle, you have to be wild on stage, have a ready wit, knowing how to defend when necessary and even "attack" by way of "legitimate defense" parties that seek to deflect speeches or dominate others. Few can do it all admirably well, in particular priests and religious. Immediacy is not a characteristic of the priest, he moves at the pace of God, with the time trial of the One who does not differentiate between the minute and the Century. For the priest, the weather is a concept more clearly the theological and physical, It is a metaphysical event that brings the calmness and contemplation of God ".
This is the heart of the problem, Father Ivano has focused in the best and most accurate.
E’ It was just the participation of father Ariel? In my opinion, yes, because in fact it proved equal. I covered many times the program, in order to better study the whole. I think it can be inferred that the father Ariel has first given the image of the virile priest. And in that context absurd, grotesque, if you allow it was a panacea, also and only a visual image level. Think about it: Ariel's father has paid tribute to all those priests who by that “theater of fags”, as he called it, no han nothing in common.
This in my opinion counted more than many theological discourses that Father Ariel is perfectly capable of doing, well and at the highest levels, but that was not the context.
Think for a moment: in that context, is unmistakably male priest, with its beautiful black cassock, who vociato to priests who flaunted gay marriage, husbands and former altar boys then they became lovers and companions, It was more useful than any high moral theology speech, that, in that context, It would still not have been able to do.
Because of this, dear father Ivano, I believe that Father Ariel, all of us priests Italian, did do just that and nothing else good impression, for showing a male and virile priest in this world in which the priest is reduced more and more grotesque and caricature, Unfortunately, Alas, also feminine.
Don Giovanni (Bologna)
Excellent article the father Ivano.
I agree totally and groom what he told Don Giovanni: Ariel's father did very well to go and I hope you invite again, even in the situation … high risk, because he knows how to stop it.
Besides: Holy Church, It is desired or not to enter a straight leg in the so-called media world, picture?
There are now several decades that cardinals and bishops frolic for televisions, and often, many of them, It was broadcast two hours to a few talk shows without naming Jesus Christ once, always careful to speak as he wants the world and how the world like.
Father Ariel could not make moral discourses, theology and spirituality, but he did what had to be done, and he did it well: 1) former priest who spoke of love by saying God made me this way, He said that God can not create evil; 2) before those horrendous cases of priests joined in gay relationships, He said that this is absurd. And he did it with determination and authority.
Is there anyone who thinks that he has done a disservice to the Church? Nooooo! He served and honored him better of the many cardinals and bishops and TV studios have never mentioned the word Christ and the word gospel.