The Superior General of the Society of Jesus, perhaps using “goods” badly cut? The grave lies the Jesuit Arturo Sosa

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THE SUPERIOR GENERAL OF THE SOCIETY OF JESUS, USA MAYBE "STUFF" CUT MALE? THE SERIOUS LYING JESUIT ARTURO SOSA

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In Rome, in Via dei Penitentiaries, the corner of the General Curia of the Jesuits is a beautiful historic café, with a large collection of wines and liqueurs. "I do not think this Venezuelan" - ranted Ariel S. Levi Gualdo after having read the interview with the Superior General of the Society of Jesus - "has opened a branch of his office at this fine wine shop ! ».

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John Cavalcoli, OP Ariel S. Levi Gualdo

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Arturo Sosa
Father Arturo Sosa, Superior General of the Society of Jesus. Behind him, a contemporary painting depicting not the Sacred Heart of Jesus, ancient devotion that was particularly dear to the Jesuits than once, but a collection of apples, estimated representation of original sin, of course, for those who believe, certainly not for those who think that it is a metaphor or an invention of St Augustine, as taught at the Pontifical Gregorian University …

first of all we want to empower our readers understand and know what happened in behind the scenes when we have received and read the interview with the Superior General of the Society of Jesus [see text WHO]. First of all, Ariel S. Levi Gualdo contacted Giuseppe Rusconi, director of the blog Rossoporpora, to have assurance that the interview was genuine and that the respondent had actually said those exact words. The Director of Rossoporpora He told us that the interview was recorded and transcribed faithfully. Understandable our prudential verification: There would have been easier to believe that extraterrestrials had landed in Bolivia and had started to incinerate the coca plantations with laser beams fired from sophisticated weapons and completely unknown to us humans.

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Jorge A. Faccio Lince and the Roman philosopher Hypatia cat have had so candy Ariel S. Levi Gualdo who was impersonating, instead the role of the exorcist, what dell'indemoniato, noisily for home:

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"Take away the hand fiasco at that Jesuit! The Italian wines with high alcohol content; if one is not accustomed to eating them, They may give side effects'.

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On the other hand, in Via dei Penitentiaries, right on the corner of the General Curia of the Society of Jesus, It is a beautiful historic café with a large collection of wines and liqueurs [cf. WHO]. therefore continues to rant Ariel S. Levi Gualdo:

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"I would not want this Venezuelan has opened a branch of his office at this fine wine shop ! ».

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After vociato by recourse to all the paradoxes is narratable is unspeakable, giving vent to his theatricality Tuscan-Roman, Ariel S. Levi Gualdo has at last ceased, and presented the interview to his "partner Romagnolo", John Cavalcoli, trying to first of all give a justification - means, in his way! ―, It based on a principle all what toxicological :

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"Father Giovanni, you must know that the problems related to drug use, derived mostly from bad drugs. Of course: not that there are drugs good and drugs bad, the drug is to be avoided and that's it. but a bad drugs It does much more damage, for example the acids hallucinogens and cocaine. In fact, if these substances are taken and diluted with amphetamines and shoddy psychotropic substances, obtaining in this way a pound of cocaine from a pound of pure cocaine, the consequences can be devastating to the consumer '.

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And, said this, behold, for his part Jorge A. Faccio Lince, d'origine Italian-Latin American, it takes a bit of his:

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"Personally I would estimate also another element: the answers given by the General of the Jesuits in the facts demonstrate that the respondent tends to have the theological-IQ of Nicolás Maduro and dialectics-display capacity of Hugo Chávez ".

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The island of Patmos He has already had to deal several times, especially in the last year, for example in relation to the comments to 'love joy or follow reactions to misunderstood words spoken by John Cavalcoli OP a Radio Maria [cf. WHO], of famous people, passed by the mass media for Amici the collaborators the reigning Pontiff, Lay, theology, Religious, bishops and cardinals, maybe coated actually senior official posts [cf. WHO]

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They, profiting unfairly the confidence accorded to them by the Holy Father and some defects of his being human defeasible, for their doctrinal positions contrary to sound philosophy and the Magisterium of the Church, demonstrate that they were not true friends and co-workers of the Successor of Peter, to whom Christ entrusted the task of confirming the brethren in the faith. On the contrary: this plethora of sycophants, with their misunderstanding of papal teachings and their falsehoods masquerading, if not sometimes clear, They denigrate us who are rather authentic faithful of pontifical magisterium, finally presenting a Supreme Pontiff Modernist, doing so miss the faithful a teacher to enlighten them and a guide to support them and to comfort them in this time of serious crisis of faith in the Church, which it seems to present even the final signs of apostasy predicted by Scripture [cf. Ii Ts 2, 3-12; Mt 24, 9-14; AP 13, 11-18].

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It is, as already noted by many years observers caught, awake and faithful to the Church and to the Successor of Peter, attentive to the signs of the times and based on criteria of faith, a historical period agitated, dramatic and chaotic, though not without lighting and of the Holy Spirit and of great chances reforming. But though in this same period abound false reformers [1], the "false Christs and false prophets" [cf. Mt 24, 24], "spirits liars' [cf. The Tm 4, 1], "False teachers" [cf. Pt II 2,1], "Unreasoning animals" [cf. Pt II 2, 12], "Anticristi" [cf. The Gv 3,18], "Sons of the devil" [cf. The Gv 3, 10] and "deceivers" [cf. II Jn 7].

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Unfortunately, the list of these characters - This of course is said without disregarding their value, their authority and their merits - is getting longer by the day, because now we are at war report, but before this rise up large items dispel misunderstandings and to really help the Pope in his teaching office. To this comes that, for the impostures of its so-called "friends", the name of the Supreme Pontiff is blasphemed, just as it did at the time of Luther.

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The good faithful ask: It is happening? Who starts around the Holy Father? Because they are around certain characters? And, with reasons, and large concerns, not from the Pharisees, but by sincere sons and devotees, they suspect him of liaisons dangéreuses [of Dangerous Liaisons], as in the fifteenth century they had reason to suspect for certain female acquaintances of Alexander VI, with the difference that it was the private conduct of the Supreme Pontiff, whereas now it is concerned the government of the Church and the pastoral directions of the same.

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We Fathers de The island of Patmos, we strongly encourage and ward off these so-called "friends" of the Supreme Pontiff, who are our brothers in the faith, to get a hand on your heart - that they talk so much about "consciousness" -, and to question seriously the grave responsibility they have towards the faithful and of the Supreme Pontiff. It is devoted by then if it is not the case that they make good use of the gifts God has given them, of which they will have to give an account to Him in time and place, remembering that, if you can trick a creature or even a hundred thousand creatures, there were among them also the Successor of Peter, "God, you can not take the game" [cf. Maybe 6,7], not even with the excuse of "mercy", or those of particular “Mercy” which today seems to go so fashionable: the “Mercy” elargita has … the sound of beatings.

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We postponed the on critical Also ferocious that many trainers and teachers Jesuit theologians have rained during the last three decades of John Paul II and Benedict XVI, because we know with such ironies he was treated their teaching more chairs at the Pontifical Gregorian University. Recall also the spirit with which paltry several German Jesuits in suits treated the Archbishop of Monaco of Bavaria Joseph Ratzinger. But postponed the on these characters that after having chopped the solemn papal magisterium, now they require dogmatize shots of intimidating messages on Twitter a non-teaching, because to be understood: an answer given talking of this and that to a journalist, or a private letter written to the Argentine bishops [cf. WHO] It is not teaching, and chores are expressions of a private doctor which can not be bound nor the doctrine nor the ministry of the Church.

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The new Superior General the Society of Jesus, il venezuelano Arturo Sosa Abascal, in this interview given to the blog Rossoporpora and to Giornale del Popolo Lugano, shows undoubted feeling for the relativity of human interpretations of the Gospel, but unduly it extends this relativity also at the same Magisterium of the Church, denying the existence and the possibility of definitive clarification of the Gospel texts, namely the dogma. His answers clearly denote its purely Protestant setting, also exists between Catholics, like the Jesuit Karl Rahner and the Dominican Edward Schillebeeckx. Thus he falls into a series of false theological statements, from which it is good to look as HIV infection, because they can endanger the faith, because of that 'AIDS theological now exploded and spread time.

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Let's see and let's make a critical one by one.

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About the teaching of Christ on marriage, the Superior General of the Jesuits states:

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  1. "What is known is that the words of Jesus are to be contextualized, They are expressed in a language, in a specific environment, They are addressed to someone called '.

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False and pernicious. These words are not taught to "someone called", but to all mankind, in all times and in all places. The context and the environment are not interested and do not interfere because it can be any environment and any environment, as the Word of God is neither delimited nor over, but infinite and as such projected eternal.

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  1. "This is not to doubt the word of Jesus, but the word of Jesus as we have interpreted ".

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Who are these "we"? that way, absolute, this statement is false, because in reality, among these "we" is the Magisterium of the Church, whose interpretation of the words of the Lord can not be doubted, the Magisterium being assisted by the Holy Spirit. Instead, the interpretations of the commentators can be doubted - indeed these days it is sometimes good to doubt! —, because they are not infallible. And in these cases may require a reinterpretation or there may be more likely interpretations.

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  1. "The gospel is written by humans, It is accepted by the Church that is made of human persons ".

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False. The Gospel was written so as human beings - the "sacred writers" -, but inspired by God to write everything and only what He wanted to writing. And it comes to supernatural truths, superior to human reason. This is why the Gospel is no human word, but the Word of God, though it expressed in human words [2]. And the Church is done so in human persons, but, in her Magisterium, It understands and infallibly interprets the words of Christ and teaches the People of God, exegetes including, which may advance theories of interpretation of those passages of Scripture that: or they are not already clear for themselves, or who they have not been clarified by the Magisterium. When a biblical passage itself is unclear or has been clarified by the Magisterium, its meaning can no longer be questioned, because these are divine truths, immutable, moral or dogmatic. For instance: the essence of marriage as a sacrament is one of these truths. Instead it can be put into question the interpretation of some exegete, relative to the distance still obscure or dubious interpretation, because you can be wrong or subject to different interpretation. But when the Magisterium recall to itself the right and duty to interpret, such as the primacy of Peter in the Gospel text of the exposed Blessed Evangelist Matthew [cf. 16,18], this interpretation is clear and definite and no faithful, although exegete, you can afford to question it. Luther's error, to about, He was to want to question this interpretation, which is to be out of the question and instead considered absolutely certain and unchangeable. The Superior General of the Jesuits shows so influenced by Luther, so dangerous and even disturbing.

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  1. "The Church has always stressed the priority of personal conscience».

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False. The Church has always taught the priority of truth over consciousness and therefore the duty of conscience to adapt to the truth. "The weapons of our warfare are from God the power to destroy strongholds, making every thought captive to obey Christ " [cf. II Cor 10, 3-5]. Consciousness is subject to the truth, no mistress of truth. It must certainly act as conscience dictates [cf. II Cor 1,12]. Nobody denies freedom of conscience. But this freedom is born of truth. No one can be also forced to act or unable to act against his conscience [cf. The Cor 10,29], unless the protection of the public good. But conscience must be informed, formed and educated, though it apologized those who err in good faith [cf. LC 23,34].

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  1. "Doctrine is a word I do not really like, It brings with it the image of the hardness of the stone ".

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The word "doctrine" is not a dirty word, is a significant and appropriate image, of biblical origin [cf. Mt 7, 24; II Sam 22, 2; Will 31, 4; 62, 3; 73, 26; 89, 27], because it indicates steadfastness, certainty, incorruttibilità, reliability, eminent qualities of God's Word, which is bright and clear Word, that does not need to reinterpretazioni, the style of the heretical ecclesiogenesi dell'eterodosso Leonard Boff [cf. WHO], that you feel the stench behind the lines of this interview. Doctrine is therefore a word to which there is no escape, so clear is its meaning: Word of Eternal Life, Word that does not pass [Mt 24, 35], Word that is God himself, immutable and eternal. Word that is interpreted and mediated clearly, infallible and unchangeable by the Magisterium of the Church. This is the doctrine and that means the word doctrine. It is therefore bad sign, if the Superior General of the Jesuits do not like that image. It is a sign that he confuses firmness with the stiffness and, to reject this, neglect the. And this is a serious mistake and is the cunning of those who neglect the absolute moral values ​​giving himself a merciful patina, ready to give up the mace of “new mercy” on anyone dare not think of it as their, with all the violence typical of the opportunists and turncoats. And not to mention how they are coercive imposing their dogmatismi after having destroyed the firmness of the dogma which is the foundation of the deposit of faith!

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Instead, we must build, exhorts us as Christ himself - always comes off a "exegete" of the Jesuit Gregorian to tell us that it is necessary reinterpret according to “ecclesiogenesi of grassroots communities” - Our house on the rock, because it simply collapses miserably all'infuriare winds. It is in fact the heart, if anything - that is our attitude in the field of charity and prudence -, which must be soft and ductile; must be 'heart for the poor "and not rigid or stone, but attentive to the needs and possibilities of each, according to the situations and circumstances, knowing plead, in cases in which it is necessary to. But here the doctrine has nothing to do, if not because it must be applied with discernment, wisdom, and faithfulness. The doctrine must be solid as a rock, so our house is strong and unshakable, and for our action is based on the Word of God and the doctrine of the Church, not on the shifting sands of the last disciple of Rudolph Bultmann, di Edward Schillebeeckx e di Karl Rahner, who he is assaulted by hives before the word “doctrine”.

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  1. "A true discernment can not ignore the doctrine, however, it can come to different conclusions from the doctrine ".

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This is also untrue. The practical conclusions or pastoral, to be wise, cautious, right, licit, dutiful and charitable, should not be anything but the doctrine translated into facts. The practical conclusions, in fact and in practice, They must be consistent with the doctrine or the universal ideal, conceived by the practical reason or faith - the moral law -, from which depart and on which are founded. The concrete human act is not that the application of an abstract principle, the subject of the judgment or of the moral science, guiding action. This is how human action both for better and for worse. Certainly, the example drags, more than the abstract of the principle consideration. But the example must implement the principle. The "end" in practice unlike the doctrine or theory is not a right conclusion, but it is a sophism, It is a deception, It is a fiction. Indeed, supposed that the doctrine is healthy, that commands the good, it follows that the act "differently", It is a do evil, Pending diversity, indeed the radical opposition of evil to good.

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On this same dangerous line He has already expressed Monaco Camaldolese and biblical scholar Guido Innocenzo Gargano, who maintains that Christ, in the Gospel of Matthew Beato [cf. 19,6], He states that "for the hard of heart 'always applies the law of Moses [cf. WHO]. It is an exegesis which of course can not be endorsed and was actually challenged in root. But at least it has the advantage of transparency and "parrhesia", instead latitano in those who change the words of Jesus without showing it and without giving reason.

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Even Guido Innocenzo Gargano It neglects that in that passage Jesus refers to a He abolished norm by and replaced by the law of indissolubility. With what Jesus intends to restore the marriage of the state of innocence, before the fall, "In the beginning", in accordance with the original divine plan of creation. We not therefore see in that consist transparency and "parrhesia" by Guido Innocenzo Gargano. It must be noted the enormous difference between the Mosaic and Christian marriage. The first was a simple procreation contract, similar to a work contract, indefinitely, but it can be dissolved or canceled when for one party or both arise facts or events that may call into question the reasons that had motivated him. Hence the solubility of marriage with the famous mosaic bill of divorcement. Instead, the marriage sacrament instituted by our Lord, is a marriage that, the contractual aspect there, It is a veritable most intimate union of persons, so that the Word of God uses the phrase: "One flesh" [cf. There 2, 18-24; MC 10, 2-16]. Hence its indissolubility, because it makes no sense to divide a thing that is a. The mosaic contract, on the other hand, He took account of the fallen nature subsequent to original sin, state including the one Jesus calls "hardness of heart", that is, that lust, that difficulty to dominate the sexual instinct, the selfish tendency, the tendency of man to dominate and exploit women, the inconstancy and fickleness of will and feelings, which I am the sad legacy of original sin. Now, it is clear that Christian marriage is always a mixture of two poor children of Adam; however, Jesus, with the power of his grace and his sublime moral teachings, especially those related to charity, He wanted in some way not only restore the Edenic marriage, but also raise it to the dignity of a sacrament, which means make it supernatural means of redemption and eternal salvation, life as children of God, and a pledge of future resurrection, how then explain the Blessed Apostle Paul, image of Christ's union with the Church [3].

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not at the late Hugo Chavez, dictator of Venezuela, with one of his many speaking parrots and communists sparlanti …

… and this is plain that while the Mosaic divorce, conditions required, It can be a good thing and legitimate, the dissolution of Christian marriage is impossible, and the attempt it is unlawful and sinful; hence the sin of adultery as intrinsically evil, according to the teaching of the Church, still present in the Holy Father John Paul II and Pope Francis, repeated more recently by Cardinal Carlo Caffara, Gerhard Ludwig Müller, Raymond Leo Burke and others.

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That said we conclude stating: support and defend the papal teaching is certainly top of the Superior General of the Society of Jesus duty; but this must be done with solid arguments of philosophical and theological wisdom, not with speeches sophistical and false arguments and pseudo-exegetical, They end up getting a counterproductive effect, discrediting, perhaps unintentionally, on the authority of one who would like to represent, finally pushing the faithful along paths contrary to the truth.

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the current dictator of Venezuela Nicolás Maduro, col baffetto jaunty Superior General of the Society of Jesus style …

For this reason Father Arturo Sosa, which it is neither a philosopher nor a theologian but a Latin American political scientist, He has demonstrated in concrete facts, in this specific case, to have the theological-IQ of Nicolás Maduro and dialectics-display capacity of Hugo Chávez.

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The worst, to stand up in defense of the Roman Pontiff; the worst thing to govern the Society of Jesus from which breast, since the sixties of the twentieth century, They were sown in the Church of the worst poisons in the name of a misunderstood Council, a misunderstood ecumenism, of a misconstrued opening, to follow along with all the worst theological drift: the liberation theology, the feminist theology, the indigenous theology, the theology of affectivity ... Until reaching the diffusion of theology of the death of God, according to the theories of the devastating Protestant Paul van Buren, through which comes to the theological exaltation Friedrich Nietzsche, that is to say to Zarathustra: «God is dead » [God is dead].

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the Island of Patmos, 25 February 2017

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[1] See the classic work and forerunner of the Father Yves Congar, True and false reform of the Church, Les Editions du Cerf, Paris 1950.

[2] CF. first part of the homily Ariel S. Levi Gualdo on the "turn the other cheek" in which it clarifies the dimension of eternity of God's Word, in The Island of Patmos, 20 February 2017. readable text WHO.

[3] CF. John Cavalcoli, OP: Consecrated couple, Viverein editions, Monopoli, (BA), 2008.

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27 thoughts on "The Superior General of the Society of Jesus, perhaps using “goods” badly cut? The grave lies the Jesuit Arturo Sosa

  1. Dear Brothers of Patmos Island,

    I implore every day God merciful for you to want to bestow a great favor to his Holy Church: suppression – this time final – of (ex) Society of Jesus.

    1. Caro don Gianni,
      I endorse everything.
      Do not let live a completely rotted tree now, since piously it deluded that it can also give good results.
      We know that a rotten tree can never bear fruit. And if it survived two or three healthy apples on a branch, at that point you have to save two or three healthy apples detaching them from the branch and then burn all the diseased tree, otherwise also the two or three healthy apples, survived by a miracle, will rot, together with the whole tree.

    2. Caro don Gianni,

      here in Genoa we have the headquarters of the Jesuit novitiate, I got to spend twice years ago for the celebrations, and I do not put it back foot.
      passing !
      determined, Once, to make the spiritual exercises of St. Ignatius. Arriving at the house of spiritual exercises, first of all, I gave him a prayer book and a book of meditations Bianchi Enzo alias Prior of Bose. I lay in bed at night, addussi the morning as an excuse (I admit!) a lie holy … I was treated by the dentist and I was again exploded a strong toothache.
      E me ne andai, because I know, the Ignatian exercises do not provide the texts of prayers and meditations of Bianchi Enzo alias Prior of Bose.
      in this second chance, closed every kind of relationship, that, After what has been said, I doubt to reopen in the future.

      1. Dear Brother Genovese,

        same story same script !

        Several years ago, the beginning of my training for the priesthood, I had your same unfortunate idea. And I tell you where I went well: in the retreat house of Altavilla Milicia, near Palermo.

        Same books of the same prayers Bianchi Bose.

        I was badly looked, consequently misjudged, because during the Mass I refused to self-communicate, In fact, I had to take the SS. Eucharist with my hands from the ciborium, dip it into the chalice of the Precious Blood of Christ, and then self-communicate.

        In conclusion, a pious Jesuit retreat house in which, liturgicamente, it required the guests a use that is definitely strictly prohibited from Sacramentum.

        Same script, or as they said once in the rides of luna park: "Another round another race!».

  2. … I see that Don Gianni said with an essential and incisive epigraph what I told myself, so I will simply say that I agree in everything.
    My add that years ago my bishop sent me to the specialist at the Gregorian, already a priest for 4 year old.
    During a lecture I got up and went away saying to semi aloud … “we can not stay here to hear certain heresies”.
    I informed the bishop that I did not stay one more day at the Gregorian, and I must say that if you took it with me.
    After two weeks he came to the bishop an information who wanted to have the flavor of psychological mixed with pastoral and social, in which it informed the diocesan ordinary that his priest (the undersigned) He had relationship problems, relationship, of pastoral …
    These are the Jesuits!
    Enunciate heresies from professorships?
    And not one can say that a heresy is a heresy, eh what the heck!
    If you do that you have relationship problems, relationship, of pastoral …
    my bishop there fell not he just tell me “evidently they have become worse than they already were in 1972 when I was studying, at the time they were limited to deny the existence of purgatory !”
    The bishop also told me another thing that made me think, this: “if you like a letter to a her priest she had come from Rome, the great Gregorian, a bishop of some remote missionary diocese of the world that, if anything, still has not made his first visit to Rome the apostles, As if have bad views, the poor priest ?”.
    Is this, I repeat, I did much, much reflect …

    Don Giovanni Paolo

    1. Peace and grace from God to all of you dear confreres who have already commented.
      There speaks a priest Vecchiarello on the way to eighty, Perhaps you are all younger …
      My bishop then (holy God rest his soul!), He did get very ill at the time, When in 1976 I asked him if he could send me to do a specialization in dogmatic theology at the Gregorian.
      I remember him always … remained at least two minutes in silence, with his head on the desk, then with a dry frown he told me “No”, and agiunse well “ever!”.
      I said nothing. You know, Mica wondered at the time many explanations to the bishops, and no one would come out with a … “I am not in agreement”.
      He, perhaps, he was afraid to be too hard, and he smiled at me like a real father, then he told me … “as you know, I was at the Council, what you know from the newspapers, by talk, by so many legends. During those meetings I have heard everything, and this all I will bring it to the grave. You see … the worst and the most dangerous subjects theologians, those to whom I would never allow the rivolger word to one of my seminarians, Today teach everyone there, and … all there, the Gregorian”.
      Then he said … “I understand that you have just now got my license. Bravo, you did well. tell me, where did you get driving lessons?”.
      I explained that I had been the driving school, I'd had a good instructor …
      And the bishop said to me, … “Bravo, you did well!” Then he almost laughed and said,: “Now, in your opinion, I should send my good priest to take driving lessons from a dangerous pirate of the road? That's right my dear: going to be dogmatic to the Gregorian, today, It is how to take driving lessons from a dangerous pirate of the road”.
      After him, He was quite another bishop pasta, and the day after they are ordered … All in Rome at the Gregorian!
      … and I do not say that priests, and then, we found ourselves in after the diocese!
      Just I wanted to tell you this: walking towards the eightieth, always bless this holy man of God of my old bishop.
      A guaranteed my prayer for fathers island of Patmos.

      Don Igino

      1. Caro Father (always call “father” it's more “don” seniors)
        God keeps alive long you and the priests like you, because the day that we lost those like you, we will be in utter desolation, every time our elders fail, I realize more and more … species with the times that run.
        Continuing the theme, in 2009, my bishop after ordination had sent me at the Gregorian for specialized license, I said: “at that university, the Catholic faith has been long committed suicide”. It was inclusive, the following year he sent me to the Holy Cross, and I must say (given that I have no bond of affiliation with Opus Dei), which it was a positive experience and … Cattolica.

        Greetings from Friuli by don Luca

        1. Dear don Luca, all reverse experience, mine.
          The bishop asked him if he saw fit me to a specialist, and he was happy with my request (let's talk 2010). When asked where you want to go, I replied that I would go willingly to S. Croce. He replied that the University of Opus Dei would have never sent his priests, so I said that I could do very well without the specialist.
          In 2012 She came his successor, who sent me to the S. Croce, where I finished the sweat of 2015.

          Years ago, a seminarian, I followed the P metaphysical lessons. Prof. Giovanni Cavalcoli in the Dominican Study Bologna.
          wonderful and unforgettable experience, thanks again for everything and everything, Father John Carlson !!

  3. In conclusion, It is relativized considering the dogma one of many possible interpretations and absolutizes one of the many theories that exist in the so-called historical-critical exegesis. It would be interesting to understand why this happens also in the highest hierarchy of the Church. The first thing that comes to mind is the study of Garrigou-Lagrange on the assumptions of dogmatic formulas: once you put aside the rational premises thanks to which it is conceived and accepted dogma (even here we must reiterate that this is not a dirty word, but a term that comes from the greek and means "decision is based on a fair trial", and thus "teaching", "rule", or even "teaching that has normative value") falls also the dogma and anything that relies on it. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, in 1973, in order to warn the Catholic world by misleading interpretations, It intervened with the Declaration Mysterium Ecclesiae, especially defending the Catholic dogma of interpretations that belittled the value (see chapter. 5). Therefore, as it is needed, if this is no longer in circulation, you reprint!

  4. dear,

    Congratulations: insults, defamation, give the doped, alcoholic and minus habens a brother in the priesthood is truly a demonstration not only of crystalline class, but heroic witness of each Christian and human virtues.

    I am pleased, are the priests and theologians like you who can give the Church the right image, evangelical and human that is so we need.

    Cyrano

    1. Defamation is an offense and pursued by. 595 the Penal Code.
      In our article is no indication of the circumstances of this crime, therefore she uses inappropriate words and applies to crime figures where it does not exist.

      That said: what do you think she was abusive and vulgar language in our Lord Jesus Christ when the highest dignitaries of the time and to the same belonging to the caste of priests, He addressed by calling them "serpents", "Brood of vipers", "Whited sepulchres full of filth inside ', "Sons of the murderers of the prophets", guilty of "intemperance" and "robbery" … and the latter is, an accusation that is linked to a precise figure of offense: the robbery [cf. Mt 23, 1-37].

      And what little it was merciful, Our Lord Jesus Christ, when in a violent and aggressive, between screams and beatings, physically assaulted the poor merchants in the courtyard of the temple in Jerusalem [cf. But 11,15-19; Mt 21,12-17; LC 19, 45-48].

      After all, those poor merchants and money changers, if we think about were just good people who made their living, of family men who had wives and children to feed to maintain, as opposed to Jesus Christ, who she was born instead into a wealthy family and was supported for all expenses required for its public life from rich families and very wealthy widows. Suffice it to say that even agreed to be anointed with a precious nard oil by Maria; an oil that cost more than gold. So much so that that person practical and realistic Judas Iscariot calculated that jar of oil to the value of 300 money, which they amounted to nearly a year's pay of a Roman soldier [cf. MC 14,3-9; GV 12,1-8].

      In any case, we note that she is more gentle and merciful of God's Word, but above all we take note of its excellent pedagogy: before the "false prophets" [cf. Mt 7, 15-20] and before devastating the work of "blind guides" [cf. Mt, 23] that lead the People of God in grave mistake, must testify – as she teaches us – "Christian virtues", perhaps doing in the best of hypotheses pretend nothing ?

      And tell us: to give the Church "the right image, evangelical and human which is so much we need ", must accidentally sweep the dirt under the rug error ?

      My joke "remove the hand fiasco at that Jesuit!"It's all proportioned to what the Jesuit serious that he set out in blatant disregard to Catholic doctrine and the Magisterium of the Church, proving in fact did not know the Catechism that she too, caro Cyrano, shows not to know with his comments.

    2. In response to Cyrano

      Since it is the first time I write here I state that I have no authority to enter into the discussion of complex theological or canonical details that I find in the arguments of the authors and commentators on this site useful.

      I am a baptized any, from a couple of years led by the extraordinary events of the Church's contingency to spend some 'time to inform and better understand what is happening: if soon I will go to Hell I would at least that to happen to my horrible and conscious choice and not by leaving caress my bad conscience by some ministers of the Most poor people in robes but in fact agents of the Enemy.

      Coming to You, from the point of view of the brief description of the objective results of Authors and Subject's article above, But I find your comment so succeeded in appreciation of the facts that in my turn, believing in this adequate my preparation, I wish to express my heartfelt congratulations for it.

      It does not have missed the sarcasm intended shape of your comments, I suppose you wanted to nip with hard wit Authors.

      I would point out that doing so in my view you made a mistake because you got the opposite result: in the sense that you have effectively and truthfully described the good deeds of the Authors.

      In small you inadvertently announced the Truth as big Caiaphas prophesied the divinity of Jesus Christ.

      With regard to what the new Jesuit General, the ironic tone of epithets peppered with references alcohol is among the best a fervently Catholic Christian author can choose to make judgment on the facts seeks to reconcile the Christian obligation of mercy and truth.
      Outside irony, the assessment of the immutable dogmas of the Catholic Jesuit General rant would lead to a much less merciful correction (that in other times, certainly not from me regrets, he also led the repressive intervention of the secular arm).

      With regards to the abundant use of epithets hard, the two authors, by diligent priests of the Catholic Church, They have been shown to follow a pressing example of the last four years of their supreme superior on Earth.

      Indeed it seems to me that the use of this lexicon have passed on skills (as it regards the appropriateness of the epithets attributes) the ordinary teaching of said upper, which is reminiscent [eg. cf.. http://popefrancisbookofinsults.blogspot.it/ ] numerous cases of abuse attributed without irony, and possible extenuating to recipients that many observers seemed not so guilty as meritarseli.

  5. Dear dear Brothers Fathers,
    I do not want to invite you to be cautious because you are the cautious, ma all’ … caution … all’ caution … you have touched on subjects whose touchiness proceeds in tandem with their arrogance and their vindictiveness, I tell you because I've experienced.
    wonderful article, really.

    1. Dear Brother,

      You're totally right, but however you must know I am dying of fear, on the contrary!
      I also believe that in several, We experienced what you have experienced.
      Anyhow, just only measure the “enemy”.
      In fondo, we are talking about people who presented themselves to the imperial courts in the back curve as the servants, certain to get something, that in the end was just something, alms …

      With the weak, instead, They have always been strong; and God only knows, sometimes, also as rigid, especially from a moral point of view.

      Then there is the speech of ductile consciousness, the consciousness intermittently, the conscience seconded the case , for instance: If the kings of the great European courts had lovers scattered everywhere and jumped the horse overnight, in this case they did not see, because there was half the reason of state and various other reasons, if anything, including subsidies for the construction of pharaonic Jesuit colleges, with related churches – still visible – they had to flaunt, both in architectural grandeur both in honor, greater size and wealth of the local cathedral.

      Someone wants to deny the existence of these architectural monuments, some of which are built – for case? – in the immediate vicinity of the cathedrals ?

      However, if a farmer winked a cheerful peasant girl, in that case it was not the conscience ductile and not working intermittence, nor assist in the case, but quickly snapped the flames of Hell.

      Want to neutralize them, indeed if anything even ship them friends ?
      So always shown strong, because only then we escape to those who are historically strong with the weak and weak with the strong; and when protect the weak – see the history of Latin America over the last sixty years – do not do it for them, but for completely different purposes and objectives.

      If the Jesuits had existed under Pope Alexander VI, and if Alexander VI had them favorites in various ways, included in the balance sheet, in that case, before anyone had dared to sigh over private conduct but notes the Supreme Pontiff, the Jesuits would have supported with logical arguments decided that Donna Marozia, for quality, Virtue and customs of life, It was second only to the Blessed Vergine Maria.

      And who has historical arguments to disprove, that belies what I said.

  6. … sorry, but the Jesuits, are always those who years ago, here in Naples, They were the meetings with those of “We are Church”, and who taught that the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist was a belief founded in the twelfth / thirteenth century ?
    Maybe that's why I do not kneel in the canon of the Mass, Mica you can kneel in front of a metaphor unleavened bread and wine ?
    But I'm talking about several years ago, it may be that in while you are converted …

  7. … mAh, caro don Ciro (cute as ever!), perhaps we shall turn to you in Naples, because in the summer, when they are in our country (Sardinia) always continue to celebrate Mass on the beach in shorts with a t-shirt with short sleeves and a colorful scarf hanging from the neck.
    They make me even tenderness, the bottom should not be afraid of tenderness, remembered as someone who, dearly, from time to time we seize more and more merciful beatings, if we dare to be Catholic priests …

    Don Santo

  8. Within this sitarello in a while to have a laugh with the anachronisms of the two fundamentalists who write to us.
    Sono theologians, I studied at the Gregorian, and I know how serious, how serious are the Jesuits, the difference between us and you women priests (with all respect) lost in chatter, is that if we women were priests, We will spend most of our time, but it is said that one day, the impetus generated by the great Pope Francis …
    meanwhile, I am working on the Committee on the study of women deacons …

    Martina Franci

    1. Dear Mrs.

      The devil laughs just like her the truth, because its purpose is to overthrow the eternal absolute foundation and elevate to the supreme truth of the unreal world. For this he mimics God: to reverse good and evil and create another reality.

      But she studied at the Gregoriana, so it was presumably formed in accordance with the sacred truths rahneriane, according to which, the Devil, It is presented as "a mythical and symbolic translation of man's ancestral fears".

      A theologian who talks about women deacons and women priests, He can have only studied at the Gregorian, if there had told her, we would have deduced us.

      What the Jesuits are serious, He has demonstrated their superior general who represents them and who guides them, indeed, when answering interviews clearly falling into historicism, relativism and heresy Lutheran, making extensive use between the lines of the concepts of de-mythologizing Rudolph Bultmann, in fact it is very serious, as are all those practices that enunciate heresies, because in doing so they always take very seriously, why we should respond by taking them around. This is the reason why the Fathers de The island of Patmos, to the Superior General of the Society of Jesus he recalled that he does not know the Catechism of the Catholic Church; and that's a fact, not an opinion. similar way He does not know the social doctrine of the Church, enough to draw on the best of the worst of those post-conciliar abuses - that have nothing in common with the Second Vatican Council - and thanks to the Jesuits and their alleged interpretation of the "true spirit of the Council", They have created commingling with Marxism through the Trojan horse of liberation theology, creating huge disasters across the Latin American continent, where escape of the faithful from our churches has come in some countries to touch even the 50%, while the sects of the Protestant heretics filled the “churches” own.

      Maybe she does not agree at all that the Protestants are heretics, and that the Pentecostals blaspheme the Holy Spirit every day with their pernicious and heretical Pneumatology, but for us they are those.

      I do not doubt that "you women", Fost is threatened, would you use most of your time, for example, going to the hairdresser for styling before Chrism Mass in the cathedral church. What self-respecting lady would rise fact disheveled on a stage, well it was a comedy play called: The rescue of women deacons, production Carlo Maria Martini, regia Walter Kasper, sceneggiatura Luis Francisco Ladaria Ferrer ?

      On DIACONATE FEMALE I refer you to this study: see WHO

    2. An excellent teólogos,

      the theological framework of his and his Jesuit friends is totally erroneous because it is based on philosophical basis of antichrist (pantheism, skepticism). The human ego coincides with the divine Self. This theology is in reality a mere philosophy of religion.

      Dear lady, as you should know the theology helps the magisterium, not demolishing and replacing it. You can not go on with this idealistic folly in the Church.

      Necessarily it will lead to the final battle, put off for decades. This time we live seems to be the right time for a final denouement. There is no possibility of reconciliation between Christ and Satan, but she can not understand this because his mental categories are based on the principle of contradiction.

      Your teacher, first idealist, is the snake that has contributed to our original catastrophe. May the Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on his soul.

    3. Dear Mrs. Franci,
      I never speak, These Nesun Sitarello, but now I am forced to defend two realities: This is a sitarello, that reminds me of the true origins of Christianity, when a group of boys and men, made only of males, few and far between theologians, He was called by a Head, which is in the King Eternal, the other is the REST of the female populace is good, wise, intelligent and also nice (physically).
      No theologian , nor academic philosopher by grace, although when I was between twenty and thirty three offers I received to that effect (l’ last was that of a priest who loved to flirt with the Masons.. I had already prepared everything even the title of the course that I should also keep in people older than me). I gave up and in one case I was “spitting” off as junk, because my conscience when it is at odds with the truth always lose. And then there quell'insopprimibile NEED OF FREEDOM. And then Pinocchio is read to the end. Even the puppet became a man, but it is due to start from a hovel donatagli from Grillo importuno. Freemasons apart, I am mindful that vainglory is always blind me. God does not want it to end theologian!

  9. Reverend Padri,

    your analysis, Your rebuttals are outstanding, They can not be faulted and extremely glossy.
    Coma in other articles will always stopped one step from the resolution of the enigma. I think all the clues, symptomatology, It leads to a problem, I do not understand why. The logical foundations (identity, non-contradiction, excluded middle) They seem to crumble miserably.

    The problem that you do not want to see is the current Pontiff.
    The Chamberlains court constitutes an effect, not the cause of the problem.
    Red Riding Hood is eaten by the wolf and Little Red Riding Hood was not devouring the wolf.

    I'm sorry that your praiseworthy qualities that so qualified, They do not want to or can not go into the matter, They would be a great help to the current good of the Church Militant.
    What a pity !!!

    Papa Clemente XIV was supposed to suppress the Jesuits with a solemn act of teaching so as to close them permanently.

    good job.

  10. I would like to respond to the “theologians” Martina Franci on the issue of women deacons.

    The Vergine Maria was never allowed to take the place of His Son.

    She who is Immaculate, Queen of Heaven and Earth has become docile, obedient and humble, then we women not having the grace that God has given to Mary, the more reason we have to do the Father's Will, serving the brothers in imitation of Vergine Maria: in the silence, in charity, in obscurity, in prayer and humility SANTA '!

    Remember that St. Giovanni Paolo II called in Priestly ordination that women can not receive the sacrament of Holy Orders.

    Like a good “theologians” should know that when a Pope to pronounce ex cathedra on a matter of faith or morals, the definite truth is no longer refutable. Now I do not know what it means for her the word dogma, But I fear that having studied at the Gregorian think that the principles of the Faith to mutate changing times denying the transcendence of God.

    The best thing would be for the good of the Church that each one occupies the place that God has assigned him without questioning what He has established.

    Anna

  11. I am amazed that anyone be surprised if Father Ariel says what he has to say even if it is to say to the leader of the Jesuits. But it is precisely because those words were spoken not any one that can not be silenced! It seems to me that Father Ariel was again friendly in front of the seriousness of the crime. The coloring style does nothing but wrap lightness Christian charity that you feel you.
    Regarding the lady theologian, instead you feel the pride and sense of worth are certainly not present in the Holy Bernardette Soubirous of which I have just read some passages about his life. Just to mention a woman and a Santa. Time ago, I briefly corresponded with a German Catholic theologian who in a Swiss Protestant church television program said quietly that the devil does not exist. Today (ie we men of modern civilization) we understand that it is a symbolic representation of psychological problems that modern psychiatry can’ treat, and so…

    Remaining silent would be a sin of omission.

  12. Still crying about that almost Jesuits 60 years ago gave me indirectly and then directly to some what Christian education is not heretical, I will not add anything to Codest dude, except that, He has so much care to be registered by rossoporpora he never seems to have heard of the extraordinary mnemonics that over the millennia and centuries passed intact and unalterable guarded the treasures of the spirit of humanity donated.

    1. Dearest,

      whom, like myself, He was a student of the old school Jesuits, those trained and become priests in the early fifties of the twentieth century, He has particularly suffered, for the words of this poor person.

  13. About the provost interview, others plead on some outlandish statements :
    “Last week Mr Ariba sent Francis and Cardinal Gerhard L. Müller, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, a “Reminders” six pages very critical of the arguments set out in a recent interview by the new general of the Society of Jesus, il venezuelano Arturo Sosa Abascal, very close to the Pope”
    Here the in-depth topics:
    http://magister.blogautore.espresso.repubblica.it/2017/03/31/sul-tavolo-del-papa-un-promemoria-contro-il-generale-dei-gesuiti-per-quasi-eresia/

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