The Bel Pastore is not a devotional iconography, but the possible and achievable model to pursue that Divine Christ Master offers us
Ivano Liguori
Of the Order of the Capuchin Friars Minor
Presbyter and Theologian
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Of the Order of the Capuchin Friars Minor
Presbyter and Theologian
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father ariel,
maybe mine is a trivial question, do you forgive me, but I would like to take the opportunity to ask you for an explanation, to see, I, as you often tell some keyboard all-rounders, I apply the criterion … when you do not know you are silent, or ask who knows, do not throw yourself into possible ignorant fools.
Days ago, one who says he understands the liturgy (he is not a priest he is a layman), he said that the ancient planets were abolished to replace them with hideous chasubles in order to be closer to Protestants even in liturgical clothing.
I was shut up, because I didn't know what to answer.
Could you explain to me?
Dear Paul,
I am very happy to explain, why this telematic tool, which in and of itself would be very useful, I have always tried to use it precisely for certain purposes and purposes related to pastoral care and the doctrine of the faith.
The pseudo expert in question told you something completely inaccurate and false. Indeed, the ancient vestment is not the current planet, but the chasuble itself.
Like many of our liturgical accessories, the chasuble also derives from the ancient Roman tradition, literally means “small house”. We should not in fact be afraid to explain that many of our liturgical accessories, starting from the stole, were assumed in the third century by elements of the paganites Roman and Christianized, giving them completely different meanings.
Precise information on the “liturgical chasuble” we have it starting from the VI century.
Therefore, it is far from being the ancient vestment, the planet, quella attuale, it does not even go back to the liturgical reform of the Holy Pontiff Pius V, but later still in time, ie the first decades of the eighteenth century, and it is a vestment that is strongly affected, in all and for all, of what was the style of Baroque art.
Therefore, what “the expert” in question defines ancient vestment, ie the current planet, it is a very modern face that dates back to the early decades of the eighteenth century, while, what he wrongly defines as a modern vestment, it is instead the liturgical accessory, together with the stole, more ancient.
Proof? In the frescoes dating back to the VI / VII century and so on, you may notice that bishops and priests are depicted with the chasuble, certainly not with the baroque planet.
Good evening Father Ivano,
even if I risk being out of fashion considering the way of thinking within the Church by many who feel they are true Christian Catholics, I am sure beyond the iconographic image, up to now, the Holy Father Francis has been and is a true living image of the Good Shepherd as he describes the Gospel passage mentioned.
If the Poverello of Assisi lived this moment in history with this present Church, he would not preach the reform of the Church by distancing the faithful from those who are the Pope today. (in spite of everything) as many want to do.
I wish you a good continuation of the Easter season.
Enzo1
Sig.Enzo,
Pope francis is the vicar of Christ,therefore it must be respected as such, but when he makes statements that completely derail from Catholic doctrine,it is fair to criticize such claims!
Obviously by sedevacantist Catholics or excommunicated priests,it is better to stay away …