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"Woe to the shepherds of Israel who feed themselves!». To be executed by the Nazis we were prepared, to be executed by firing squads of the merciful Church no, we were not prepared.

4 June 2019/16 Comments/in Actuality/by Father Ivano

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«WOE TO THE SHEPHERDS OF ISRAEL WHO PASTURE THEMSELVES!». TO BE EXECUTED BY NAZI WE WERE PREPARED, TO BE EXECUTED BY EXECUTION PLATONS OF THE MERCIFUL CHURCH DO NOT, WE WERE NOT PREPARED.

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He said recently a bishop: «Let's be clear, the Church as we once knew it no longer exists". In fact, we noticed it, just examine the rubble…

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Ivano Liguori, Ofm. Capp.

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A young priest writes to Aldo Maria Valli … [item, WHO]

The letter of a young priest published on the blog The deep by the Vatican expert Aldo Maria Valli [see text, WHO] it brought to mind chapter XXXIV of the book of the prophet Ezekiel about the shepherds of Israel who abdicated their task as leaders of the people to think of their own interests [cf. This 34, 1-31, full text WHO].

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Reading this letter I immediately felt very close to this brother and - being perhaps greater than he as chronological age - a brotherly feeling of friendship has united me to him even spiritually.

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First of all, a clarification I consider very important: not always these letters-vent must be read through the lens of the controversy or disobedience. As well as, in the same way, It is done a disservice when these texts are challenged by Christians diehard to foment some kind of revolt against the King and his Court. In fact, it is good to remember that history teaches us how the Masaniellos always end up unpleasant.

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A young priest writes to Aldo Maria Valli …

Behind these writings, often an authentic outburst is hidden which is the unexpressed groan of those who desire that the Kingdom of God be visibly fulfilled on earth and that, in a world torn by discord, may the Church shine as a prophetic sign of unity and peace [cf. Eucharistic Prayer V/d – The Church on the path towards unity].

We are approaching the solemnity of Pentecost, which is the womb in which the Church is born of Christ, that Church for two millennia brings good news: Christ rose from the dead, Alleluia! The Holy Spirit is unity and creates unity, Church enjoys this feature when you find cohesive with her Spouse and among its members and therein lies its unity and strength. But the freedom that the Holy Spirit gives to the Church, sometimes raises many dissident voices that, as the prophets of Israel often unheeded, they try to make men aware, and in particular the men responsible for exercising the so-called power, of what will be our natural return to God.

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Or to put it in other words: we often find ourselves faced with brothers who in the frankness of the Holy Spirit indicate to us that the King is naked and that the time has come to cover his pudenda to restore his lost dignity, which is the dignity of all of us, both as individuals and as the People of God.

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A young priest writes to Aldo Maria Valli …

Widespread discomfort that this young priest presents in his letter he is palpable, not so much in relation to those who define themselves as non-practicing believers, but at those people who have the faith of the Church in their mission and their pride. Like this, this discomfort that turns into disturbance, It is the disease of many Christians of today and of many priests and religious. And note well: The trouble is that reality from which the Holy Mass, immediately after the recitation of the Our father, we ask for the grace to be freed from it together with sin:

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«Deliver us Lord from all evils, grant peace in our days, because with the help of your mercy we will always be free from sin and safe from every disturbance, while waiting for the blessed hope to be fulfilled and our Savior Jesus Christ to come"

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Disturbation is not a sign of the presence of God, there's little to go around, when I find myself in front of upset believers, as a pastor I must, out of duty of justice, respond by trying to instill that peace which is the most beautiful fruit of the Holy Spirit. The sign of disturbance, today widespread within the Church, is highlighted through a massive disconnect between the shepherds and the sheep, precisely within those themes where once there was clarity of vision and a certain uniformity.

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A young priest writes to Aldo Maria Valli …

We then have to patch things up in justifications because that politician – whatever orientation he belongs to – is framed as the bad guy on duty and it messes up my plans? We don't need excuses at every turn to appear trustworthy, that Latin phrase that says is all too clear: «Excuse not claimed, clear accusation». Indeed, by dint of apologizing always and for everything, we will also end up apologizing because of the death of our Divine Redeemer. Other times we instead categorize our brothers into alignments: traditionalists versus progressives, haters versus lovatori, the enthusiasts supporter of this or that pontiff and his detractors.

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A young priest writes to Aldo Maria Valli …

Venerable Fathers Bishops and Brother Priests, It's useless to play Ciccio mother touches me and then assign blame to others for our failures as men of God. If many brothers in the People of God perceive us as dysfunctional men, schizophrenics and neurotics, probably, there will be something true. Perhaps they are indicating to us that faint breeze of God's presence that Elijah distinctly perceived [cf. 1Re 19,1-16] and that we don't want to hear, much less indulge. We really want to achieve this type of revolution?

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I was told that a bishop, speaking to busy lay people, he literally said: «Let's be clear, the Church as we once knew it no longer exists". Well – I say – if this is already so clear, why not let us return to the Lord, He who is the true shepherd of his flock and probably from here by little we whisk off, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth? [cf. Mt 13,42]. And unfortunately, many of us, They are already out for some time from the mind and heart of God's people, ready for that place of eternal damnation where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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We mourn our confirmation candidates do not put the foot in church, that our engaged couples have already experienced everything that can be experienced and that the wedding rite is just an entertainment to escape from the monotony of a life lived together for a long time. Even our sick no longer call us to their bedside to administer the Holy Viaticum and the Anointing, because they see us interested in anything but their soul.

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The large basilicas and large squares are increasingly empty, we priests are desperate that our liturgical assemblies are now reduced to a minimum. And in the face of all this, the "wisest" thing we can think of - instead of being priests - is to give our churches out to ecclesiastical and lay movements in the hope of selling a few more tickets and being sold out the following Sunday.

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A young priest writes to Aldo Maria Valli …

Let's ask ourselves with seriousness: how could our faithful enter the temple of the Lord after it has been used as a refectory, political tribune, art Gallery, auditorium, flea market and so on? And all of this - what is more serious - without even having removed the Blessed Sacrament from the tabernacle, the red light turned off, left the door of the sacred reserve open, removed the tablecloth and candles from the altar. As it was once done with the express authorization of the local bishop, a consecrated church was occasionally used for non-liturgical activities. Request: who does this, he still believes in the real presence of Christ, the living and true God, present in the soul, body and divinity in the sacred Eucharistic species?

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The same holy sacrifice of the Mass risks being trivialized so that it is more friendly and – believe me – you don't need to be a devotee of Marcel Lefebvre or Gricigliano to improve things. Our homilies are steeped in atheist humanism which has among its dogmas the promotion of presumed rights incompatible with our faith, enough to make us abandon the sacred cassock or religious habit to wear the electrician's overalls, of the green activist, of the social worker, of the politician or the disk jockey.

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The film In the Name of the Pope King comes to mind shot by Luigi Magni del 1977, in which the character of Monsignor Colombo da Priverno – played by the great Nino Manfredi – says a sentence which in my opinion is decisive:

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A young priest writes to Aldo Maria Valli …

«Siblings, we are old… we were on borrowed time. We want ago’ good deed, the first to die? Just one: let's retire the executioner and end on a high note. Let's look for them as priests, to be priests, that we don't miss anything!».

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How beautiful, let's try to be priests, priests and pastors like this with our weaknesses, shortcomings, inconsistencies but priests. This is what simple people ask of us and what God expects, By doing this we won't miss anything, but there's more: at that point, the good People of God, still seeing our commitment, will forgive us with great magnanimity also all our human weaknesses, our faults and our faults.

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In calling the apostles Christ did not choose the best course of his time but he chose the most suitable for his purposes. This should get into the heads and hearts, we are here to further the purposes of the Savior that the feast of the Ascension reminds us:

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“Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And here, I am with you always;, until the end of the world " [cf. Mt 28,19-20].

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A young priest writes to Aldo Maria Valli …

The alleged waves of new ecclesial, if they do not come from the Holy Spirit who gives peace, They know old, There is nothing new under the sun, also alleged novelties are already old, stink of mothballs, Christ alone is modern, because it is the living, One who was, which is, What will be, as acclaim during the Easter Vigil.

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Let us send retired the disturbance Executioner and he too modern Executioner's mercy. The one and the other their toll and cut so many innocent heads in our ecclesial communities performing their death sentences by order of the worst culprits. Via, that the Executioner, while she is dressing a luxurious and elegant red hood up at the foot, is constantly dripping with the blood of the innocent martyrs who, as in the time of Christ, pay their testimony to King Herod which claims to be revolutionary in his being the Messiah and Savior of the chosen people who never loved and who used to enrich themselves and to tighten connivance: via!

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Cagliari, 4 June 2019

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To be executed by the Nazis we were prepared, to be executed by firing squads of Merciful Church no, that we were not prepared …

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16 replies
  1. Marcus Aurelius
    Marcus Aurelius says:
    10 June 2019 at 16:12

    I understand more and more how it was possible that the “Neocatechumenal way” has taken hold in the world. With the fugitive Bishops, what the priests could do on their own, without a guide, without help.
    These adult faith pushers, they replaced San Pietro with the Domus Galilee, the churches with parish halls, all important liturgies with private meetings in hotel rooms, of the monastery with the Mother of the Redeemer, the priests with the catechists, the Pope with Kiko Arguello. All under the eyes of a Church that pretends not to see. But how can you see when those who pay the price are priests who demand answers and positions.
    Dear priests, if we don't do like Jesus who, entering the temple, threw away everything that shouldn't have been there, the church will be replaced by the first deceiver who will be able to deceive us better than the others....

  2. Gerolano
    Gerolano says:
    9 June 2019 at 15:18

    But what does it have to do with it?

  3. Emanuele
    Emanuele says:
    9 June 2019 at 14:54

    Caro father, but what he says at the end does not resemble the complaints that the 'good' brother utters in the parable of the prodigal son?
    Said this, let alone, Don Ariel's blog is extraordinary because it highlights the frustrations, the pains, the anxieties and, above all, the loneliness of a part of today's clergy. And not always just the older ones. The reigning Pope does not concern himself with it because he is intent on another battle which he leads with the few down-at-heel troops he has.. Moreover, even our pontiff seems to suffer from that loneliness and sees the Church of Christ as a minority in a cynical world. For this reason he also appeals to other 'faiths', even to those sad Lutherans who risk disappearing (and with them the Christianity of the rich regions of Europe). In short, the situation is terrible, Bergoglio's South American culture complicates things. Let the muttering of certain parish priests come to light. As long as it does not produce conflict with the Pope and the bishops.

  4. fabio
    fabio says:
    9 June 2019 at 0:43

    http://espresso.repubblica.it/attualita/2019/06/07/news/bimbi-sordomuti-abusati-da-preti-pedofili-in-argentina-esplode-lo-scandalo-insabbiato-in-italia-1.335817?fbclid=IwAR0VYEGfl9d8FmgkQn8ydwg0sBK2nMeA_Nl9CkLxz1ftQJfYCmB_eCjDMNI&refresh_ce prejudice I report news

  5. Elena
    Elena says:
    5 June 2019 at 13:28

    I thought it was just me, poor laywoman in a strong crisis of faith, to feel abandoned and neglected by the shepherds, instead I hear the voices of priests who suffer more than me. E’ a dramatic but also embarrassing situation. Every time I tried to approach my parish priest to share my spiritual concerns, their backs were turned on me. However, when the catechumens of our parish were presented, e’ was invited to the altar (I was going to say “stage” because now many people are going up “recite”!!) the “wife” of a woman!!! Someone explain to me what kind of message it would be? There is not’ There was a need for words about welcoming those who are different and blah blah blah.
    E’ this direct was enough, very simple gesture to explain everything. E a me, I was overcome by desperation due to my daughter's illness and subsequent crisis of faith, that one would have been enough “I will pray for her”, not even a pat on the back. Understand that it really takes faith and perseverance to continue to be Catholic!!

  6. Hector Barbieri, presbyter
    Hector Barbieri, presbyter says:
    4 June 2019 at 22:32

    The problem, in my opinion, is to relate to your bishop, as if this should be what it should be, i.e. father, pastore, etc.

    E’ from the seminar times that I totally disillusioned and subsequent experience 23 years of priesthood has done nothing but confirm this bitterness and this cross-loathing.

    Think of having help or comfort from their bishop or even more so a guide is utterly unrealistic. We priests are alone in the most radical sense of the term; We must go on, Following each have their own conscience (obviously informed and formed).

    Of course, if the contrast becomes inevitable, as in the case of a priest who would not give his church inopportune events, there are two cases: or it is made open resistance, forcing the bishop, if he has the courage, to seek assistance from law enforcement to get rid of the pastor (and there is also a little fun ', con i mass media) or you go to the parish churches with your head held high.

    But I don't think it's appropriate to enter into conflict in other cases, because it is of no use, as the other priest was able to experience.

  7. Dorotea
    Dorotea says:
    4 June 2019 at 22:00

    Dear Priests,

    don't be discouraged because… if you give up, for us lay people it's over and we remind you that a falling forest makes more noise, of the undergrowth that grows and this undergrowth is there.

    As the mother of the family, marries from 35 years old and almost a grandmother, catechist from 33 years and Dominican tertiary, things aren't easier for us, we too suffer isolation, accuse, various ostracisms, We can't even approach the bishops and we often hold out for you too, we talk about it with Father Ariel, we support each other, we help each other, Please… Why, at the end of the fair, the only thing that matters is that we all keep our prayers and the certainty that everything will end sooner or later, the important thing is to remain faithful to the One who alone can give us true peace and eternal life.

    Let us remember that hundredfold but also that cry of love from Saint Magdalene: «Love is not loved; love is not loved; love is not loved…».

    Let us think of Him and we will be able to do everything with certain victory.

    Courage, I hug you one by one, and you give us your blessing.

    Dorotea Lancellotti

  8. father ariel
    Don Lorenzo (Milan) says:
    4 June 2019 at 20:18

    Cara “mother”,

    I already responded to Don Davide a little while ago, can read, if he wants.
    When 57 years ago I became a priest from the archiepiscopal seminary of Milan (the seminar that was), the ordaining bishop, Card. Giovanni Battista Montini (a year later he became Pope Paul VI), he made a whole speech addressed to the bishops and senior presbyters, on the importance of caring for priests in general, of young priests in particular.
    Maybe something, it must not have worked, Why, just a few years later, starting from our great diocese, the requests for dispensation from priests who asked to leave the priesthood were quite high; those who asked for it, Why, then, there were those who just left.

    When the beatification process of Paul VI was started, I sent a report to the causes of the saints, and I also asked to be heard; no one answered me, and no one ever listened to me. Nothing much, I just wanted to make some calm clarifications and that's it.

    Just completed 75 year old, I was retired.

    I confess many priests, e, often, I also happen to listen to mothers and fathers like her.
    What to tell her, way “mother”: se in me, priest, there is a slice of church, for the slice of church that is in me, I ask Don Davide for forgiveness (above), to his children, and to her, way “mother”.
    The worst evil, it is what is done in a spirit of total indifference.
    This schizophrenic church today, it is like a father who neglects his children, to go and shower care and attention on other people's children, convinced that he has more obligations and duties towards the latter, not towards the first.

  9. father ariel
    Don Lorenzo (Milan) says:
    4 June 2019 at 20:03

    It does not cease to bless God for the fact that I made 82 year old, for so (Dio is always blessing) from time to reach my deserved Purgatory, where those who have loved me certainly will pray for me, and I do not cease to pray for the young priests in particular and for priests in general, for you too, dearest David.
    I hope that your bishop, God can grant pardons from purgatory, I hope for him …

  10. father ariel
    Mom of two priests (Letter Signed) says:
    4 June 2019 at 19:52

    Reverend Father Ivano,

    little it's worth, please accept my thanks for his writing. From his photographs I see is young, I have 74 years and I could be his mother. I am the mother of 4 children, two of which became priests.
    One left the priesthood, the other was able to overcome the crisis, after the dear Father Ariel took care of him years ago (Father Ariel knows who is writing this comment to you and can tell you how bad and suffering my priest son was “survived”). Crisis overcome, but he's not doing well, of these times of great love, welcome and mercy towards all that is “migrant” e “not Catholic”.
    What they complained about, my sons priests, what he left, and what, with enormous difficulties, it remained? The suit, total, absolute abandonment of the bishops who don't want problems, they get bored listening, and they don't give answers to these priests.
    You know what the bishop dared to say, to my son, the one who then asked for dispensation and dismissal from the clerical state, when he went to explain to him that he was experiencing a moment of crisis, and that for this reason he needed help? He dared to answer, the bishop, that he was not a psychologist, and gave him the name of a psychologist friend of hers, yes a woman, that it should have … treat a priest in crisis !?
    This bishop, today, it's all about welcoming migrants. Of course, the important thing is not to welcome and guard your priests!
    The man we know, that is, the man of mercy, and his men around, the pain they have given to so many priests, to many of their parents, to their family and friends, they are very deep.
    But only one thing matters: tear down walls and throw bridges at migrants!
    Don't believe it Father, me too, to keep the faith, I had to work so hard, so much, so much.

    Mom of two priests (Letter Signed)

  11. father ariel
    Don Davide (priest of mom and dad) says:
    4 June 2019 at 19:19

    First of all congratulations to Father Ivano for his fine article, where pictures already and final movie speak just as if.
    Said this …

    Dear brother and companion of fortune (or misfortune?),

    They have given three remotest parishes in rural areas with less than a thousand souls in total?
    You went well, so to speak, Anyway, after all, “less worse”.

    That's all: assembly of the clergy, the bishop says to stick to the pastoral provisions dictated by love joy, also called Sadness of Love.
    Everyone is silent.
    Three of us, from me, ask: “which means to comply?”.
    And Bishop (indeed archbishop and cardinal until yesterday Woytilian and then Ratzingerian): “I've been clear, you must stick to the text”.
    Another of us asks: “for us parish priests one of the main questions is this and it is simple: we must or must not give Communion to divorced and remarried people who live in a state of adultery?”.
    I'm precise: “already, that says love joy, we must or we must not, is permitted or prohibited? We need answers and certain directives”.

    … listen to what the bishop says (indeed archbishop and cardinal until yesterday Woytilian and then Ratzingerian): “I'm not saying you should or shouldn't, I say you have to be welcoming and merciful”.

    Will I wrong, perhaps, but at that point an air of courage and say: “Eminence, until the Church does not tell me you can / have to give Communion to remarried divorcees, I will not and I will stick to the discipline by St. John Paul II, and if that discipline is outdated, you have to tell me in writing, and with a clear document, not with an ambiguous little note at bottom of page”.
    In total silence, the other two say: “we too, and, we too”.

    Three months after they are relieved from pastor. It was not possible to have a lodging property of the diocese, I live at home with my elderly parents, I celebrate Mass in an institute of nuns and in a nursing home.

    In my diocese, the clergy is on in ages, and the two previous bishops have been buying up African priests, Latin American, Indians, All parish administrators, those who still are not Italian citizens, or parishes, those who had citizenship. 15 years ago it was received a fake Romanian priest, and only after almost a year it was discovered that the papers and presentation documents were false and that he was not a priest but a former seminarian, and there had to intervene with healing canon etc.. etc..

    I forgot! A few days ago the Pope went to Romania where he asked for forgiveness for Roma.
    But you know what? Don Sebastian said the Marchese del Grillo “if I turn even doing my bishop”, Instead I make my gypsy, so if anything to me asks for forgiveness!

    don Davide (priest of mom and dad)

  12. father ariel
    Don Angelo Rossit says:
    4 June 2019 at 14:04

    In the 2013 on the occasion of Andrea Gallo's funeral father Ariel wrote and explained that Andrea Gallo, Luigi Ciotti and Paolo Farinella were disgraces to the Catholic priesthood, and explained the reasons, starting with the prostitutes personally accompanied by Gallo to the abortion clinic, etc…
    Father Ariel had problems because of that article, because it was judged as an attack of lèse-majesté on the card. Bagnasco who celebrated the “funeral porcini” of the Rooster, leaving the CEI assembly on purpose to return to Genoa, celebrate the funeral and return to Rome.
    Many of our brothers (and I repeat many), They are competing to invite Luigi Ciotti in their churches for some comizietto, and I tell dear Zamax, no one dares to give thanks in an envelope with less than 1.000 Euro …

  13. father ariel
    priest "mercied" says:
    4 June 2019 at 13:56

    «how could our faithful enter the temple of the Lord after it has been used as a refectory, political tribune, art Gallery, auditorium, flea market and so on? And all of this - what is more serious - without even having removed the Blessed Sacrament from the tabernacle, the red light turned off, left the door of the sacred reserve open, removed the tablecloth and candles from the altar. As it was once done with the express authorization of the local bishop, a consecrated church was occasionally used for non-liturgical activities. Request: who does this, he still believes in the real presence of Christ, the living and true God, present in the soul, body and divinity in the sacred Eucharistic species?»

    Well done Father Ivano!
    You must know that with different words but the same substance is what I said to the bishop.
    In fact, being the parish priest of a parish in the historic center, close to the municipality, to the prefecture, to the headquarters of the espiscopal “party friend” (to clarify the PD), Christmas in the church entrusted to me was to be turned into a media showcase with lunch for poor and migrant. The bishop was in fact show that they are perfectly in line with His Holiness Kim Jong.

    I said to the bishop that I never changed a '700 Church in a tavern, and that if he wanted to do it he had to come in person to arrange everything.

    When he told me that we had to be in line with His Holiness Kim Jong I answered that I had not become a priest to do the restaurants manager.

    I made him jump “communion media” that was pleasing to Kim Jong PD.

    Just past the eighth Christmas I received a polite letter …

    Today I am pastor of three rural parishes that all three together have less than 1000 inhabitants.

    At Easter in my former parish we ate, it was a party, it was played, performed African tribal dances … then in May he has invited an imam to say four words from the pulpit and to receive good wishes for Ramadan.

    You know why I do not sign?
    Mica because they are coward (if I had been I would have acted in any other way with the bishop), but because of the various prohibitions I got to write anything without first public has been given the script and performed.

    I remember more or less liturgical chant saying … "I am, mercy"

  14. father ariel
    Don Francesco Messina says:
    4 June 2019 at 13:39

    Dear Father Ivano,

    first of all those assembled in your writing this article with these photos and the final movie, anyone who is a genius.
    Reading the article I thought that very often most of us priests, We afflicted the priest who accompanies Don Pietro Pappagallo in front of the firing squad, She comforts him and then walks away while he is shot.
    Instead, we should ask all of the chairs and sit around Don Pietro Pappagallo for shooting.
    But if we live the situation that we live this is due to the lack of courage of us priests, and above all to the almost total lack of courage of the bishops.
    Well … you Fathers of the Island of Patmos sat on the chair with your back turned to the firing squad, and await all his mercy …
    We shouldn't limit ourselves, to pray just for you.

  15. Zamax
    Zamax says:
    4 June 2019 at 13:29

    Writes Father Ivano:

    «Our homilies are steeped in atheist humanism which has among its dogmas the promotion of presumed rights incompatible with our faith, enough to make us abandon the sacred cassock or religious habit to wear the electrician's overalls, of the green activist, of the social worker, of the politician or the disk jockey."

    And Don Luigi Ciotti claims it too:
    https://www.repubblica.it/dossier/la-repubblica-delle-idee-2019/2019/06/02/news/don_ciotti-227800515/

  16. The word he fears
    The word he fears says:
    4 June 2019 at 6:53

    I'll take just one idea, confine the minimum wage, the administration of the Sacraments. Baptismo, First Communion, Confirmation, Wedding, Ordering, obsequies, They were contracted in toto to the organizers of events Companies, tailors, restaurants, locations ecc. The sacramental moment is just a moment, a parenthesis fleeting, useful subject for photographs and filming.
    Yet it would be enough to make clear a simple consideration: the Sacrament is FREE (grace,ae), They pay the LUSSI.
    The Confession escapes a bit ', both in the sense that it does not arouse great tours Business, both in the sense that escapes its, very few priests who administer, very few times when they do, and very few believers who ask, but then Semel to year make a nice collective liturgy in which all cows are black.

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