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«God revealed the secrets of others ALTIUS»
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MANUELA LUZZARDI
The pope is infallible only when he speaks ex cathedra, like when he publishes an encyclical, a dogmatic statement, and hope…
One that says that “Dio ti ha fatto gay” and that never clarifies anything and that you have to chase to try to put a patch on what he says, it is indefensible. Luckily many are now aware of it.
Cara Manuela,
could be – even if I personally pray and hope not – che a 84 years I could be much worse.
For this I pray and hope, in the eventuality, to be able to have close to me, as I always have, of people who prevent me, if necessary, from creating disorientation in the faithful and discrediting the Holy Church and the Sacred College of Priests.
The difference is that I have always surrounded myself with good and capable people, that at the moment they pointed out to me my mistakes or the mistakes I risked committing.
If, on the other hand, I had eliminated all valuable people from my surroundings, animated by prudence and wisdom, to surround myself with opportunistic career ruffians who can only say: «… and, splendid, stupendo, meraviglioso … ah, what an originality, what a news, what a revolution!», surely from now on I would say nonsense not only on the pulpit or on my writings, but also for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
In any case, always remember one fundamental thing: nor the limitations, nor the imprudent and self-centered spirit, in any way affect the legitimate authority of the imprudent and self-centered, he put on it by the grace of God, who may have given it to us by grace or misfortune, but always and in every case by grace, even if at the moment not understandable.
This, it is the second passage that we struggle a lot to make the faithful understand often: the embarrassing miseries of the person and the greatness of that high office of his instituted by Christ God himself.
Thanks for the wise answer, father ariel, which of course I share and which I will look for, with all my miseries, di adeguarmi; however this man does not have senile dementia, it cannot always be justified… the Holy Spirit put it on, Certain, I hope, however, that the role that this pope will play does not resemble that played by Judas. Maybe Jesus returns, since non-negotiable principles no longer even exist for a certain church, everything collapses, Christians are persecuted everywhere and it matters very little to almost everyone? Who has understood this well is Islam, that is ready to sweep us away, in the face of ecumenism, light years away from that of St. Francis. I guess Christ is coming from King: he will no longer allow impudent pachamame in the Vatican and other very serious sins in your eyes, which he never left unpunished in the Old Testament. Paragraph? An affectionate greeting and many blessings!
Manuela
I bless you from my heart and with sincere understanding.
As for the problem of Islam, I take the liberty of suggesting that you get this book of mine just two days ago.
https://www.amazon.it/dp/8894506606/ref=as_li_ss_tl?&linkCode=sl1&tag=isoladipatmos-21&linkId=7f4e023cfddec2228856398c60682ee5&language=it_IT
Happy father, I think from experience like you about the secular dangers of Islam. I hope Oriana died converted. Thanks for the very welcome blessing, and I always read to you with great interest
Dear Father Liguiori, I frankly did not understand the meaning of the article. Defend the Pope? Minimize what happened? It seems to me that defending oneself behind the fig leaf of the fact that these are private affirmations and not of the Magisterium, make the noise of someone's nails heard a mile away and try to climb mirrors to defend the indefensible. If it is true that you exist “an intrinsic formative weakness of people who are no longer able to distinguish between a magisterial pronouncement of the Church and ecclesial gossip”, it is equally true that if the Pope does not share certain positions to which some of his ambiguous affemations lead, has two ways to dispel doubt: first of all use caution (even by keeping silent instead of talking nonsense) and then eventually clarify what has been said. The silence from the Vatican on this film, I know so much about assent. I think it is evident that Bergoglio does not care about the Magisterium and the Doctrine. The Church today has a problem: a gentleman dressed in white who has nestled on Peter's throne, stuffed with a South American provincial cattocomunismo and with a rather bulky ego.
Gentile Antonello,
it is increasingly difficult for a priest today, answer questions such as the one you set out in your comment, for the simple reason that many expect answers from revolutionaries or protesters.
This difficulty arises because today there is a widespread trend "minutelliana”To find and blame the defenders of the reigning Pontiff, labeling them as unwary defenders to be eliminated and fought.
Believe me, the Pope does not need defenders, for a lot of valid reasons which would take a long time to explain here.
He wonders what sense my article makes? To simply say that every Pope needs the apostolic prudence given by the Holy Spirit in every moment of his ministry. This is because the Pontiff experiences the miseries and frailties linked to the human person just like everyone else, things that can exist even in the presence of an office as delicate and lofty as the one he is called to fill. It is precisely the fact that the Pontiff is recognized as an authoritative person and as the legitimate authority at the head of the Catholic Church must induce the Catholic faithful not to confuse what is infallible magisterium by some unhappy, avoidable and manipulable "off-the-cuff expressions" that are typical of the human.
Dear Father Liguori,
I assure you that I do not expect answers from revolutionaries or protesters. And as regards Don Minutella, that it stays where it is.
Your article seems to me in a pious attempt to defend the Pope and downplay the incident. She points out that one should have caution. But such a speech could have had a value at the beginning of the unfortunate pontificate of Francis. At this point, after years of imprudence, I no longer believe that it is a matter of rudeness, but of deliberate and calculated destabilizing choices. As you have already indicated in your article, certain statements cause disasters. Provi un po’ (You will know it far better than I do) to go and explain to an elderly person or, perhaps even worse, to a teenager that what matters is the Magisterium, the Tradition, etc. The answer will be, but if the Pope said so…
Questi siono i fatti. The rest are conjectures and bureaucratic quibbles (the difference between Magisterium and personal opinions) that these are received and not understood by the majority of the faithful.
I no longer believe that certain attitudes are human miseries and frailties. Francesco simply does not believe. Or at least that's what I now think of this “extravagant” Successor of Peter. And I say it with the pain of the heart.
Unfortunately I agree but I have to tear out my tongue so as not to judge
Dear Father Ivano Liguori, I often find myself meditating on the words that Jesus said to Peter in Mt 16,19 «I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven: everything you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and everything you melt on earth will be melted in heaven ".
I am not a mandate to change even His words?
How this verse is to be understood correctly?
Thank you.
Of course not, not even one iota will have changed, I'm sorry for the church 2.0 modernist. The doctrine is that and Peter has to feed the sheep of God, not yours, in God's way, not his. She likes it? 😉
That's what I thought too until everything was questioned. And the doubt arose.
Your Telepace.it, Verona section, there is a video of Don Bruno Fasani, titled Homosexual Children of God, which is exalted by praising modernity and the prophecy of Pope Francis. In fact, that broadcaster is very close to the Pope.
However, it does not affect health problems in the least.
I had read Dr. Silvana De Mari, who is medical, and repeatedly treated the problem from a medical point of view.
He does not believe that all priests should deepen the pastoral care of health?
“A sound mind in a sound body” the ancients said so. Abusing the body in rebellion against God (road, alcoholism, deviant sexuality, etc…) he mistreats his mind and spirit and rushes into unhappiness.
In order not to repeat either the article or the comments, I place two noterelle: 1) who always and only speaks of rights, ignoring that they can only come from duties, litter of the Law; 2) ecclesiastics who instead of enunciating the necessary moral principles come down to advocate specific legislative acts, they engage in clerical interference damaging the autonomy of the state.
Lady Lucia, certainly now later 7 years we all know the Pope well what he does and what he wants. Personally, I believe that Bergoglio is a good person, if only we remember that in a meeting with the prison guards talking about laws, of custodial sentence, he said life imprisonment is not a solution, and this, contrary to people's unique thinking, to that of most people who would like someone to die in prison rather than repent e “to change”, we can understand. This and other examples show us the Pope's disposition. But, obviously the Pope must be the Pope, that is, to abide by the Magisterium of the Catholic Church, to the Doctrine, there is no escape from here. Good day everyone.
When Bergoglio speaks of detention, Pannellian motifs echo.
And who has ever claimed that prison is a solution?
And if the Pope has to do The Pope,that is, to stick to the Magisterium,the assertion conveys a misrecognition,in the current disorder,compared to what Tradition has affirmed for centuries about the lawfulness of the death sentence.
"Death inflicted as a penalty for crimes takes away all the punishment due for crimes in the other life,or at least part of the penalty in proportion to the fault,of repentance or contrition. Natural death does not remove it. ”Summa theol.,
«Who instead scandalizes even one of these little ones who believe in me, it would be better for him to have a donkey-turned millstone hung around his neck, and was thrown into the depths of the sea. "
Amerio rightly speaks of the Jacobin utilism of the neotericists.
"And when it is argued that a man's life cannot be cut off because he would be deprived of the possibility of atonement,the great truth is neglected that capital punishment itself is an expiation……..capital punishment,indeed every pain,it is illegitimate if the independence of the individual is placed before the moral law,through subjective morality,and in the face of civil law as a consequence of that first independence. Capital punishment becomes barbaric in an unrelated society ,that,closed in the terrestrial horizon,he has no right to deprive man of a good that is all good for him. "Romano Amerio-Iota Unum
I remain silent on the low regard that is reserved for the victim; only the wicked is the subject of a weird tale…
May the Pope be only one “useless servant” It is well established that throwing stones in the dovecote is however the favorite pastime of this Pontiff.
I do not think the current successor of Peter is Catholic. When it appears I change the channel.
Its riverbed is beyond the Alps. From in Germany.
I agree with his thinking, if I do not change the channel it is to collect the proofs of Bergoglio's apostasy.
A useful study is proposed by Stefano Fontana:
https://www.vanthuanobservatory.org/ita/sul-riconoscimento-giuridico-delle-unioni-civili-omosessuali-nota-dellosservatorio/
This is a short excerpt:
“… The Magisterium of the Church has already pronounced itself extensively on the question, denying the legal / moral legitimacy of the civil recognition of homosexual unions and the lawfulness for the Catholic faithful to concur to approve them. This occurred in various documents and especially in the Considerations regarding the projects for the legal recognition of unions between homosexual persons of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith., ….”
Good evening Father, if the CDF among others has defined that it is against the moral law for a Catholic politician to give his assent and favor laws on de facto and civil unions, I therefore consider it a mortal sin,aggravated by being public, spend oneself on them and consider them a lesser evil, if you look at Ratzinger's note to the US bishops which forbade giving communion to politicians. Mistake? Invincible ignorance can be invoked?
Thanks Rev. P. Ivano,
do not abandon us, we need you to support us in these moments of confusion and bewilderment.
Signor Giovanni, prize accompanied by a cake for the director's birthday and to hand it over as a waiter to Papa. That cake ultimately threw more bewilderment and disappointment in many like me than the documentary itself. on, to Cardinal Zen the Pope is not there’ hasn't even received it after a very long journey from China to now 88 year old. As Valli said in one of his articles, you have to be the worst, clearly of a certain political line to be welcomed in the Vatican, otherwise NOTHING , NOTHING….
The Supreme Pontiff was a fan and still continues to cheer for the Argentine football team San Lorenzo, when he talks about it with friends he says it's the best team in the world.
She believes, Themselves. Kerigmatico, that this affirmation falls within the infallible magisterium, like his responses to journalists or the interviews with Eugenio Scalfari in the living room of the Domus Sancthae Marthae?
Cheer up, figlio caro, now there are only four old cats left to dance on the carpets of the Kiko-Carmenian liturgies to the sound of bongos, between one stroke of rheumatic arthrosis and the next, because neither your children nor your grandchildren intend to know anything about your sectarian amenities.
I know it, it's bad to die, but sooner or later it happens to everyone.
after the anti-papist bullshit fired by Mr.. Ariel in that sewer of Dritto and Reverse of ReteQuattro, we lacked in the dose increase of another who has forgotten that the pope is infallible.
Poveretti voi!
Jesus told the adulteress: “God created you like this, the state must recognize your right to adultery”,
or he told her ” Va e non peccare più”?
If a dictionary were drawn up with the collection of all “arm expressions” of the popes, so many and so beautiful would turn up that she would not know where to attack to proclaim the a priori and posterior infallibility of certain unhappy outings.
This was different: the “arm expressions” the predecessor of the ruling dell'augustissima, they were made outside of magisterium acts and public speeches, not to Spadaro or Scalfari. It existed, then, a system of total protection of the figure and words of the pope, who also measured sighs when he spoke, system totally pulverized by the most august ruler. Così le “arm expressions” they were and remained so, if anything, they came out of the sacred walls years or centuries later, but without ending up in newspapers and televisions to the great confusion of priests and faithful.
don A.T.
(professor of Church history)
Very good Father Ivano Liguori.
Antipapist Father Ariel? It seems to me that Father Ariel defended the figure of the Pope (quello attuale) far too much, on several occasions, more than what Bergoglio deserves.
Bergoglio has said so many anti-Catholic affirmations and contrary to the doctrine of Christ that I find it hard to consider him Pope.
“Anyone who proposes a doctrine other than that taught by Jesus Christ, even if it were an angel, be anathema ".
I would like to ask the Pope personally if he is a servant of Christ or a servant of this world.
Father Ivano, as an old parish priest I tell you that these words of yours were never more wise:
“We priests, faithful to every Successor of Peter, we know, how certain affirmations produce precedents in the common feeling which then make pastoral practice problematic and difficult, sacramental and moral. As already happened in the past with the post-synodal apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia”.
Who knows if anyone is interested in the problems that we priests have to face in concrete pastoral practice?
Thanks for that article, certainly, he did much good also and above all to us priests.
I wholeheartedly join in the thanks to Father Ivano.
The same thing.
The Fathers of the Island of Patmos are truly great, truly.
Esteemed Fathers and Brothers,
what you can say, and the good you can do, and above all the courage with which you act, if on the one hand it helps the faithful, on the other, it is a great relief and stimulus to us priests.
don Carlo Menegatti
And, really of great help and great stimulus.
Thanks dad Ivano.
good morning. For the first time I read an article from you instead of waiting for the vocal to be processed. Congratulations Friar Liguori. Article not long and written in a very understandable way. On Thursday I listened to Father Ariel in the clip released on Retequattro in the broadcast “Straight and Reverse” and he too had been very clear. However, I voted against the homotransphobia law, I signed a petition on CitizenGo, but I fear the law will pass. As I wrote in commenting on videos related to the issue on Youtube on Catholic channels, what I find truly scandalous is that the Pope does not speak out and does not clarify. It goes without saying that if it doesn't, and it didn't, it means that he wants the wrong message to get through. Furthermore, in the aforementioned Retequattro broadcast it was said that the documentary by the Russian director, it seems that even in the Vatican he was awarded. I don't know if this is true. Thanks for this great article. Let Jesus Christ of Hail.
I was amazed by the sentence: ” È Dio che ti ha fatto gay”
I remember that after the L'Aquila earthquake, some rash statements about God's punishments caused a purge within the Church, because it must never again be said that God punishes. In return, now it can be said that God is sadistic.
La ringrazio per il chiarimento.
It is true that journalists manipulate the Pope's words, however it seems to me, personally, that the current Pontiff encourages the press with his ambiguous or unclear speeches. Some of his speeches that I listened to on TV make me strongly suspect that they want to overturn the teachings of the Gospel. I would like to give an example: some time ago Bergoglio affirmed that Mary in front of her Son on the Cross had feelings of disappointment towards God regarding the promises of greatness that had been made towards her Son. How to say: Mary is a woman like any other who has feelings of resentment or rebellion against God and her faith has faltered???
This was what the Pontiff meant?
I honestly have no words! Never has a Pontiff tried to question the granite faith of the Blessed Virgin. I do not pretend to be right, but allow me to say that this externalization was not manipulated by the press as I, like many others who watched the Rai channel, heard it live. I want to clarify that mine does not want to be a form of attack on the Pope, but with each passing day, unfortunately, my fears and negative feelings are confirmed. I seem to see a Church as a ship in a storm without a captain. By commander I mean the Vicar of Christ certainly not Christ God who will never abandon his Church, it is also going through a period of bewilderment, I hope as short as possible.
He also said on live TV that “also” he has little faith. Not that you can't understand him for his sense of humility, but why say it in that dry way, embarrassing? It wouldn't be better to keep quiet, out of prudence, precisely?
Good morning Father Ivano,
I am becoming more and more convinced that to scandalize and bewilder the faithful is precisely the purpose of Francis I with his method of preaching. More than confirming in the usual doctrine, he aims to shake minds on a given topic so that it is discussed no matter what the poor faithful understand. . Lei cosa ne pensa ?
Dear Reader,
the problem is not so much what Father Ivano thinks - who carried out regular theology studies and later specialized in Health Pastoral Care - the most worrying problem is what simple Christian faithful think who see the Pope as a spiritual and moral guide unusual, not comparable to others leader contemporary religious.
Over the past forty years, we have had figures like John Paul II and Benedict XVI who had the ability to instill in the hearts of believers that living nostalgia for God and for the Gospel that invited them to desire the perfection of the Father (cf.. Mt 5,48).
Le dirò di più, many young people of the 80's and 90's then embarked on the path of religious consecration, of Christian priesthood or marriage often after World Youth Days in which opening the doors to Christ became the war cry which made hearts tremble and spurred on to want to accomplish great works by trusting God. Today it is still like this today?
Francis I certainly chose a different way than his predecessors to present himself to the Catholic and non-Catholic world. A totally unique way, perhaps close to the Jesuit style which often deconstructs and questions everything in order to arrive at a more precise synthesis. The discontinuity with its predecessors is certainly evident, but this may not necessarily be bad.
On the other hand, what a Pope absolutely cannot afford to do is be unclear, lacunoso, ineffective, misunderstood and interpretable. And this is because his is not a word of any man - to be clear Jorge Mario Bergoglio - but that of the Vicar of Christ, Pietro's, namely of Francis I., Roman Pontiff.
Having said that I think, with all possible respect due to the Roman Pontiff, that such a pastoral style is imprudent and in the long run dangerous, because it is well known that any pastoral, exhortation, homily, speech that a pastor of the Church intends to implement, it must necessarily start from a well-founded and solid doctrine, something that the Church has had for two millennia.
All other variations on the theme, they do not make the Gospel more attractive but weaker and we are experiencing this by seeing our churches empty, our lost Christians and we priests distracted by palatable mirages.
I hope I have answered your question, I ask her for a Pater, Ave, Gloria for my conversion.
Concordo pienamente con Andrea. Questo papa non ha mai personalmente e pubblicamente smentito nulla delle affermazioni perlomeno pericolose che ha fatto, né ha mai risposto a quesiti importanti per la fede e la dottina, come i dubia, preferendo interloquire con atei convinti quali Scalfari; ha mandato in soffitta persino il titolo di Vicario di Cristo, nella nuova edizione del 2020 dell’Annuario Pontificio – il volume ufficiale dell’organigramma completo della Santa Sede. Capisco la difesa d’ufficio che siete costretti a fare ogni volta per salvare la parte buona della Chiesa e l’onorabilità del Pontefice ma mi sa che questi sono tempi particolari, tremendamente difficili per il cattolicesimo, aggredito soprattutto dall’interno. Per favore non prendetevela con il povero credente che vi esprime le proprie numerose perplessità, perché non avremo le lauree in teologia ma lo Spirito Santo non ci disdegna. Se c’è un tale sbandamento nella Chiesa, e forse mai come prima d’ora a livello dottrinale, un motivo ci sarà. I fedeli han bisogno di salvare le anime più che i corpi: se i preti che si lamentano delle chiese vuote, ci trasmettessero gli autentici valori di Cristo, invece che leggerci Enzo Bianchi e andare a rinfrancar lo spirito a Bose; se i vescovi ascoltassero un po’ di più la fede dei semplici e punissero seriamente i docenti di religione che insegnano Mancuso invece di sant’Agostino, sociologia spicciola e islam invece della dottrina, saremmo più tranquilli. Ma, siccome sono donna, forse è meglio che stia zitta… un abbraccio e comunque tanti complimenti a…