Note of clarification on some ambiguous words of the Holy Father: Man needs God, but God does not need man
― We help the Holy Father with childlike clarity ―
NOTE ABOUT SOME clarifying AMBIGUOUS WORDS OF THE HOLY FATHER: MAN OF GOD NEED, BUT GOD HAS NO NEED OF MAN
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We simply can not even suspect that the Holy Father has heard such things, although his way of expressing himself was not the happiest, and would have required, in our opinion, at least some clarification. Moreover, the Holy Father would not hurt to warn against the risk of an interpretation which leads to pantheism and to atheism, very widespread today.
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Giovanni Cavalcoli o.p. – Ariel S. Levi di Gualdo
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If you were hungry, you would not say it [Shall 50,12]
Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? [Gb 38,4]
To whom did he consult, because I instruct? [Is 40,14]
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Hearing of 7 June 2017 – to open the video click on the image
In the general audience of 7 June, the Holy Father pronounced the following words:
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«[…] the gospel of Jesus Christ reveals to us that God can not be without us: He will never be a God "no man"; it is he who can not stay without us, and this is a great mystery! God can not be God without man: great mystery is this! And this certainty is the source of our hope, that we kept in all invocations Our father» [Official text WHO].
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These words You could at first make us to mind the famous thesis of Hegel: "God without the world is not God". If it really was, it would be very serious statement, fraught with disastrous consequences on the theological and on the moral level, since it is clear that God is completely sufficient in Himself and can well exist without man. And indeed, They, there was already perfect, Blessed and completely alone and the Self, from eternity, before He created the world. He is supreme perfection, infinite and absolute. The Nothing can be added. Nothing Short of. The Nothing you can donate. What The gifts we give are the ones who gave us. Since nothing its essence can be completed, even the most sublime creatures. God is Absolutely Necessary, while the man is contingent creature. He is all for Himself; the creatures are nothing in themselves and, all that the creature is, it is from God.
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He certainly is Love by essence, He gave his Son for our salvation, but always it remains that could have very well not to exercise this love to the world, Why, If she wanted to, It might not create it.
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God created the world out of pure love and an act of perfectly free advice - utmost freedom ―, as the Vatican Council says, it created for pure and selfless love, without being absolutely necessitated by the structure of its essence, as well as instead they operate physical agents subhuman.
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To think that God, to exist, needs the active contribution or ideal man, Why he can't do it alone, He leads man to believe they can be essential to God and to shape the essence of God, that God becomes an idol, "Work of human hands' [Shall 135, 15], product of human thought, come in idealism. Hence the temptation of believing man or a god to identify with God or take God. Or to put it in other words: if man were not there, God would not.
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In the literature of spirituality of Ashkenazi Jews, some rabbanim [the LORD] They tell us that "God had such a need to be loved and honored, that at some point he decided to create man in his own image and likeness, so that man would love and honor him". It deals with, naturally, an expression of the whole poetic. Although as we know, in theology, and especially in the dogmatic theology, the poetic licenses, however beautiful, and sometimes also effective to make the idea, They may be non-hazardous infrequently, if not explained, but most if not explained well and as such, ie as poetic licenses.
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Now, we can not even suspect that the Holy Father has heard such things, although his way of expressing himself was not the happiest, and would have required, in our opinion, at least some clarification. Moreover, the Holy Father, it would not hurt to warn against the risk of an interpretation which leads to pantheism and to atheism, Today both very popular.
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The Holy Father's words They can then be understood in a mystical-affective-operational sense and also as referring to the mystery, in three ways:
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first, in a mystical-affective sense: It is like the language of lovers, as when the lover says to his beloved "without you I can not stand '. Or as when one says all'altra or viceversa: "I adore you". Word that makes the idea of what it means to expression of deep emotional level, but in theological language has a meaning and above all a "application" very precise, because only God can be the object of adoration, unless otherwise run the serious risk of falling in idolatry.
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Second, in Christ God has in some way to be in need of man. It shows Christ who asks for a drink to the Samaritan [cf. GV 4, 1-26], and even more it shows its request for cooperation all’opera of salvation, although then our free response is a gift of his mercy.
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Third, the words of the Holy Father must be understood as referring to the mystery of the Incarnation: God has united Himself in Christ forever to man, and nothing will ever separate this union. The union therefore of God with man in Christ, however, is a necessity in fact, not in law. If the concepissimo as a fusion of the two human and divine natures, we would fall in heresy Christological contrary to the dogma of the distinction of the two natures of the Council of Chalcedon.
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This awareness, the Holy Father tells us, God in Christ it is forever linked to man, It is certain for us the source of great confidence in the Father, consolation and hope, which, however, must not exceed in a false certainty to save in each case and without conditions, canceling a holy fear of God, because it always remains in each of us the responsibility to pay or not to so much love, Why, if there sottraessimo with sin, the work of redemption would be of no use to us. Recall the famous words of St. Augustine: « He who created you without you, he doesn't save you without you ».
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it gives The Island of Patmos, 8 June 2017
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Dear Readers,
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announced after the brackets we will inform the 19 May [see note WHO], we went back to work on The Island of Patmos. During their stay at the Convent of Padre Giovanni Cavalcoli we recorded several video lessons currently being assembled, they will soon be published for all of you on our channel.
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Fathers de The Island of Patmos at work during the video shooting carried out in the San Domenico Convent in Varazze (Savona)
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As always, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for the service you carry out for all of us poor faithful!!!
I would like to ask you for another clarification: among all the various unfortunate exits like the one above, perhaps the one that worried me the most was “even inside the Holy Trinity they are all arguing behind closed doors, while outside the image is of unity", to explain UNITA’ IN DIFFERENCE or DIVERSITY’ RECONCILIATED….This interpretation gives me shivers!
If this were really the case, Heaven would be nothing other than great “reconciled chaos” (?!?!) where we would all continue to argue and make peace…forever?! I beg you, tell me it's not like that!!!
Luckily when I think of the Anthem “O Blessed Trinity, Ocean of Peace…” I feel consoled again and the Hope grows in me that the Trinity awaits us in Peace and Eternal Joy where “there will be no more death, nor mourning, I'm not sorry, nor worry,because the former things have passed away” (AP 21,4)
However I wonder…how is it possible to continue to project our human miseries onto God without realizing that it is precisely His Holiness and perfection that heals us and frees us from all evil…
… … … God became a devil… in the Church some believed that slaves did not have a soul… God cannot be God without man…
It's not that, for case, il verbo “I slap (patassô)” used in the phrase “I will strike (hit) the shepherd and they will be scattered (they disperse) the sheep of the flock", metaphorically means that the shepherd will be “beaten, hit, afflicted” in his way of expressing himself in words in order to be misunderstood so that they are scrutinized (disperse = disperdere, winnow, throw the wheat into the air to separate it from the chaff) the sheep of the flock?
It seems like we are witnessing a paradoxical comedy, in which protagonists as Pope or Bishop, clearly unaware of the catechism, they catechize baptized people who have never been taught the doctrine.
Toni Caro,
if I blamed her – something I would never do -, I would be, to say the least, dissociated from reality, if not worse intellectually dishonest.
E’ the day is ever closer, the living members of the good People of God, they will have to protect their shepherds from their mistakes.
For completeness I would like to point out that, creator and director of the brilliant comedy in progress, It seems he's that guy forgotten by most, despite not being a smoker, it brings with it an unmistakable cloud of acrid black smoke…
Caro Father,
you know well that I respect you even when you use harsh tones at first glance. Ma, from theologian to theologian, if we had to make clarifying notes every time we would have already written more than a couple of books. I say this with pain… It's not a question of unfortunate ways but after years it's clear that the Pope means exactly what he says. As he stated as a cardinal in 2005 that corruption is the sin that God does not forgive (in “Sin and corruption“, Buenos Aires 2005) and other nonsense (such they are).
Let us keep our faith firm. I advise everyone to always read the Catechism together with the Word of God. Unfortunately, chaos is spreading.
… We pray a lot … because if the Pope had said some things from the throne it would be condemnable as heresy … like when he stated that the soul dissolves and then reaches God or that God does not judge and much more … perhaps we are really living the prophecy that Guitton made to Paul VI: «there will come a short time when the flock will lead its own shepherd».
will not prevail … Certain … but Jesus himself, our beloved Lord, he also asked us if he would still find faith when he returned to earth …
May our Lord remain patient and never let us lack the Holy Spirit.
Lately the Holy Father too often expresses himself unclearly …
… a man, covered his face with a balaclava, armed and wrapped in an explosive belt, he is about to enter a cathedral packed with faithful. a policeman sees him and thinks about the reasons why a balaclava can be used, he wonders whether the weapons are loaded and the possible generic uses that can be made of them, whether the belt is made of gunpowder or nitroglycerin and whether the use that the man in question can make of it is certain …
The thoughts, the words, the works, the Pope's omissions are now a starting point for endless learned disquisitions or for ineffective interventions by induced parties webeti, like me, each of the faithful, who very prosaically see the Holy Church undermined to its foundations.
Maria, Mother of the Church, pray for us !
The problem, dearest John, in an elementary way is that the very fine theologians, they try with respectful language to indicate all’Augusto (?) how to proceed in order to avoid the Babel of languages, not wanting to understand that the’Augusto, in the manner of the Marquis del Grillo, it takes no account of doctrine, nor of Tradition.
At the Court of’Santa Marta Hospice for the Blind everything is recreated in order to destroy everything. As a frightened subject told me in recent days in Trastevere: «… It's already a blessing that I don't give birth to the baby in Buenos Aires.".
And with this he wanted to make me understand what the mood is’Hospice …
the Rev. Padri, shame that your note is not countersigned by the Pope and that you do not have any official position in the Vatican curia, what you say might have much more credibility. Your latest attempt is highly offensive to those who are on this side: Perhaps you are convinced that "the other side of the counter" are all "idiots" (in no way offensive, but with severe disabilities encefaliche). Your latest attempt to cover an elephant with a handkerchief is blasphemy against reason. Poor St. Thomas Aquinas!! Your ministry is for the salvation of souls or to help ruin?
Poor Papa was the victim of yet another speech written by someone who holds him captive. Your interpretation would need other interpretations, subsequent interpretations of further interpretations again and so on until infinity. WE ARE THE CATASTROPHE AND THE TITANIC SINKS WHILE WE HAVE FUN DANCING.
Dear reader,
we, Dio blessing, we do not have "No official position in the Vatican curia", not because we are bad, but precisely because we are good.
official appointments – to which we have never aspired – They are now generously dished out to pernicious as heterodox Father Raniero Cantalamessa, as Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, as Enzo Bianchi running in cathedral cathedral to utter heresies after being appointed consultor of the Pontifical Council.
Ma … mi tip, for her, a 'Official business', Is it synonymous with theological orthodoxy and defense guarantee the deposit of faith?
Having said that I continue now responding to this statement: "Poor Papa was the victim of yet another speech written by someone who holds him captive".
My answer is as follows: She believes that if someone, a holy fox as John Paul II or a fine theologian like Benedict XVI, He had written similar things in a speech, them would read?
Face this question and to give only the answer.
Finally I reject indignantly, on behalf of the Father in my name and Giovanni Cavalcoli, the paradigm of the sinking of the Titanic, because both of us, for years and years, through our books, writings, homilies, conferences, we are screaming loudly "Iceberg, iceberg!».
Therefore, instead of doing schoolmaster foolish with us, be angry with those who are pushing the ship on a collision course toward the iceberg, because we are always the ones who scream the danger, and if necessary we also yelled in the direction of Domus Sanctae Martha, but instead to dance, even within the halls of Domus Sanctae Martha, are other, from all those heretics titrated to which she gives high dignity and credibility not because orthodox and faithful to the deposit of faith, but why charge titrated.
It documents what he is doing to the Pontifical Academy for Life, Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia, Then write to us and above all show us that, to be “charge titrated” It is synonymous with the defense of the doctrine and faith.
And may God bless you !
the Rev. Padri,
if the Pope has spoken badly or its language was not sufficiently clear, or else, It should be the one to correct or remedy the damage, intentionally or unintentionally done; directly or by means of its employees (curia), certainly not that you are not the perpetrator. Who has to repair damaged, no other.
"Official posts - to which we have never aspired - are now generously dished out to pernicious as heterodox Father Raniero Cantalamessa, as Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, like Enzo Bianchi who goes from cathedral to cathedral to utter heresies after having been appointed consultant to a Pontifical Council".
Have you ever wondered who gave you these tasks?
Who has the power to remove these dangerous heterodox?
With what authorization does Bianchi tour the cathedrals??
I wouldn't want to be in the shoes of that Bishop who opposes him!
The one who has immediate and absolute power over the entire earthly Church is the POPE!!!! Who started the wild process of replacing the Orthodox at all levels with the so-called heterodox, commissioners of religious institutes, various defenestrations?
Who is it…
Dear Eagle,
His lines are a succession of involuntary contradictions in terms, I'll try to help you figure out which ones:
«if the Pope expressed himself poorly or his language was not clear enough or something else, It should be the one to correct or remedy the damage, intentionally or unintentionally done; directly or by means of its employees (curia), certainly not you who are not the authors of the damage".
Well, I suppose her, like all of us, has been baptized.
Applying to the Sacrament of Baptism, but above all to the mystery of original sin, this logic of his, we could reasonably say that Adam and Eve should have been the ones to remedy the damage done, certainly not us, that we are not responsible for it.
Because, as I'm sure you know, we are not guilty and responsible for the sin committed by Adam and Eve; they did it, not us. So how come, everyone, we were born with the stain of a sin that none of us committed, but which, despite this, has affected all humanity transferred, not as a sin clerk but as a sin contract?
She writes:
«Whoever has damaged must repair, not others".
Soon said: therefore only Adam and Eve who committed the original sin should have been baptized, what does all of humanity have to do with it?? Because their children, who have not committed this sin, they have it contract?
The truth is that there are various sins that, in their own way as happened with original sin, which constitutes the origin and beginning of sin, they can alter the so-called perfect balance of creation and of the various things created or willed by God, including the Church, which once, Benedict XVI, it is no coincidence that he compared it to a "structure of sin".
She goes on to state:
«Have you ever wondered who gave you these tasks? Who has the power to remove these dangerous heterodox? With what authorization does Bianchi tour the cathedrals?? I wouldn't want to be in the shoes of that Bishop who opposes him! The one who has immediate and absolute power over the entire earthly Church is the POPE!!!!»
I reply by telling you that the bishops who do not oppose it, they are not victims at all, as you might almost imply, but they are authentic executioners of the Church, they are fearful and often even undignified bootlickers. Having said that I add, obviously for a purely academic example, that if the Fathers of The Island of Patmos were bishops of two respective dioceses, could rest assured that to their dioceses, Bianchi, he wouldn't even get close from afar. And if from above, someone, would try to force us to have him pontificate in our cathedrals, we will respond by communicating to the Holy See our immediate resignation from the government of the diocese, so as not to passively and passively accept that a heretic pronounces heresies in the shadow of our episcopal chairs in front of our faithful and our priests. All this to reiterate that many bishops are not victims at all, but of the omissive executioners who for their fearful omissions will have to answer to the judgment of God, which will be particularly severe for them and on them, with all due respect to the’merciful aspirin.
However, you are so caught up in the sacred fire that you perhaps don't realize that you are asking yourself questions that already contain the answers. In fact, he has the power to prevent all this, as you yourself write:
«He who has immediate and absolute power over the entire earthly Church».
And if this power, which comes to him from Christ God, he doesn't exercise it, or in case he practiced it badly, or, worse still, let others do it, perhaps we should keep quiet? The Blessed Apostle Paul was not silent, before the Blessed Apostle Peter who was falling into error, moreover through a completely ambiguous way of doing things [Gal 2,1-2.7-14]. And centuries later, the Holy Bishop and Doctor of the Church Ambrose, on a specific occasion he sent this message to the Supreme Pontiff for his messengers: "Tell the Pope for me, after Jesus, there he. And that the head that God has given us we will use not only to put on a hat".
She finally concludes:
«Who started the wild process of replacing the Orthodox at all levels with the so-called heterodox, commissioners of religious institutes, various defenestrations?».
My dear, but the answer is already in your question, if law, the head, he doesn't just use it to put a hat on. And I'm sure that you use your head to think, is that sometimes, the sacred fire of passion, along with the pain, they can prevent it, but please stay calm, because it is a fleeting experience that we have all had, because it is also and above all this way, that we truly grow in faith.
Dear Eagle,
I join Father Ariel in answering you. It has always happened that certain interventions by the Supreme Pontiffs contain expressions that can be understood in a heterodox sense. A Pope can clarify the meaning of certain of his expressions or correct bad interpretations in particularly serious cases, as when for example Pope Alexander VII specified in 1656 that the condemnation of the Jansenist propositions made by his Predecessor Innocent, against an interpretation that Jansenius wanted to defend, or like when Blessed Pius IX made it clear to the Italian patriots that his love for Italy should not be understood as a desire to wage war on Austria or like when Pope Benedict XVI clarified that the condemnation of the errors of liberation theology does not exclude the existence of positive aspects in it.
Now, however, the task of making these clarification interventions aimed at dispelling misunderstandings or misunderstandings in ordinary cases does not fall to the Pope, but to theologians. It is in fact supposed that the Pope, as teacher of the faith, always teach the truth of the Gospel, whereby, if someone interprets certain of his words as if they were contrary to the Gospel, he is in principle not required to complain that he has been misunderstood and therefore to refute the misinterpretation.
The fact, so, that a Pope expresses himself in such a way, so it can be misunderstood, it should not be understood as an act of his that would cause harm to the faithful, so that the Pope is then required to repair the damage. Those who misunderstand the Pope's words can receive the damage, but it is only possible to think of a Pope, in the exercise of his office as teacher of the faith, can objectively harm the faithful, so as to induce or tempt them to the sin of heresy.
The question we must ask ourselves is not who assigns the highest positions to the Holy See or in the most important academic or managerial institutes of the Church, since here the answer is evident; but it is how it is possible or based on what solicitations or manipulations or recommendations or information or influences or pressures or ideological conditioning, political or economic, it happens that people who are so close to the Pope access positions of such high responsibility and are so close to the Pope, which, instead of shining and standing out throughout the Church for an exemplary doctrinal purity, prudence and theological wisdom, perfect orthodoxy and unshakeable loyalty to the authentic Magisterium of the Supreme Pontiff and to the Tradition of the Church, show impressive gaps in the field of the doctrine of faith, positions contrasting with the Papal Magisterium, false judgments in theology and philosophy, tesi heterodosse, reckless, reckless, scandalous and badly sounding.
She objects: he who has immediate and absolute power over the entire earthly Church is the Pope. Undoubtedly the Pope, by divine right, has on earth, regarding the knowledge of faith and the salvation of souls, full authority, absolute, immediate and direct on each believer of every condition, order and rank. But this authority must be exercised. And to exercise it conveniently and effectively, many conditions are needed, which are the following:
– the Pope needs to be sharp in intelligence, shrewd, well-intentioned, diligent, prudent, insightful, far-sighted, broad-minded, brave, mite, energetic, disinterested, equanime, impartial, lover of justice, zealous, well informed, free in his choices, not suggestible, not easy to believe, not distrustful, capable of evaluating the qualities and defects of each person.
In addition to this, every Pope must, inevitably, at least at the beginning, accept the moral legacy and the human environment of the curia that his Predecessor leaves him. Even having reforming intentions, must always deal with human material, that God makes available to him. In addition to this, it is very rare for a Pope to have all those qualities listed above. But if he doesn't have them, maybe not his fault, it is clear then that the government of the Church is affected to varying degrees, so that those high places can be accessed by the unworthy.
If his Predecessor leaves him good collaborators, his task will be easy; if instead the environment is corrupt, he finds himself among collaborators who resist him, they flatter him but then do their own thing, they deceive him, they pretend to obey him but then do it the other way around, they recommend him to people who are not recommendable, they give him bad advice, they frighten him with inconsistent fears, You understand what the effective power of a Pope can be reduced to, were he also a Saint.
So don't be surprised by what is happening and the problems we are reporting. Ours is help that we are giving to the Holy Father, so that he can free himself from the ballast and, strong of the Petrine charisma, Servant of the servants of God, may freely guide the Church towards the ever new goals that the Holy Spirit points out to it.
Dear Eagle ,
in the "Vatican Curia" (which is called the Roman curia or offices of the Holy See), I've been working there for twenty years, and not at the level of usher or minute clerk, but I gloss over my assignment and role.
I can and must tell you that in many of our offices there is a lack of people like the Fathers of this island, that for their own good it is better to remain on this island, because today, at the «Vatican curia», they would find themselves forced by obligation of conscience to accuse many "official officials" of serious heresies and immorality. For their good and the good that their analyzes and complaints do for us too, it is good to continue working from the outside, how they are doing.
For official reasons I had the misfortune of following the very painful case of Msgr. Charamsa, who in the "Vatican Curia" had two important positions at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and at the International Theological Commission, and he was also a professor at two pontifical universities.
Unfortunately, the news of Charamsa went around the world, and perhaps you too are informed of the fact that this individual with dual "official duties" in what you call the "Vatican curia", declared her love for a man with whom she now lives in the Basque country.
I stop at this single example to state in the end that hardly, the idiots, they are willing to realize the sensational nonsense they often say, they write and spread.
I have nothing else to add or comment, if not the fact that in the "Vatican Curia", The Island of Patmos is one of the most monitored sites, followed, beds, and above all appreciated, at least from what I see …
Letter Signed
In the last seconds of the video the Pope recites the Lord's Prayer and misses ” Your Kingdom” that says “come…” then he pauses and passes to “your will be done”. But it has to veni '? Boh!
Then the minute 2,50 when he says “the mystery of God that always fascinates us, It makes us feel small, But there is no fear, But it does not cast out, we fear not” piglia one scapellotto from the raised white cape from the wind… it's a sign?
… in Naples we are collecting signatures to open the diocesan phase of the beatification process of Hegel, with deep and heartfelt prayer already prepared for the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, to proclaim “doctor of the church”. All for the sake of consistency, only consistency …
Dear Brother,
I think you also have success in this collection of signatures, at the bottom there are already numerous miracles ascertained, do you mention only a few :
1. the unorthodox Christology of Cardinal Walter Kasper ;
2. the appointment of a person as the Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia to the Pontifical Academy for Life ;
3. General Superior of the Society of Jesus, Arturo Sosa, for friends now “Sosa fiasco“, that after having said that we do not know what Christ really said because at that time we had no recorders, has enlightened us that the Devil, in which he said for centuries the faithful have scared, It is a metaphor …
And numerous other confirmed miracles that would be really long to list.
P.S.
As for the miracle Vincenzo Paglia, known lover of the new direction of the Church poor for the poor, I limit myself only to remember that with sensitive pastoral care, at the time so he impoverished his diocese and filled to such debt point, that to cover all, even the Vatican Bank had to intervene with a multi-million euro.
And for all this, to him as to others, It was given deserved reward …
Simply said, and … immediately made !
This morning I went to the Curia and then I went as usual to pay a visit to SS. Sacramento in the cathedral where he was ordained years ago. It was on the celebration of the Mass, from the chapel of SS. Sacramento have been achieved by these words spoken by the pastor during his reflection to the Gospel with its own booster hearing on 7 June, why now, a lot of, in their homilies, They are only able to say … “as Pope Francis …”, making often tell Francis what Francis did not say, But it also said that he often, done beautifully misunderstanding in every way.
I am modestly specializes in patristic, e, often, when I preach, I happen to say … “as said S. Augustine, S. Athanasius, S. Ambrogio, S. Girolamo …”
But I am “old”, although I 37 year old.
And the words that reached me were verbatim the following: ” … We can therefore say that man created God, that God created man” (!?).
All this under the bishop's throne, Bishop who calls once a year to make us a lecture Enzo Bianchi, and when does the meeting of the clergy, He speaks only of refugees and immigrants.
It omits to say which is my home diocese.
Don Paolo
I agree with mystic affective sense, and I am not surprised because in certain pre-conciliar booklets of devotion to Jesus they say things even things “worst” moreover seasoned with melodramatic pathos from nineteenth-century theater …
… so what the Pope said there is.
The important thing is to always keep in mind that the Catholic essence of Is is right to believe in the Holy Father figure because it is our faith to be structured so. In fact the theory of “Pope heretic”, ie heresy that afflict from time to time the Popes of history as a common cold is, as explained by the Fathers of the Island, as well as a big nonsense heresy that has little Catholic because it undermines the foundations of our doctrine. Hearts up so healthy and trust in Christ.
because in certain pre-conciliar booklets of devotion to Jesus they say things even things "worse" plus seasoned with melodramatic pathos from nineteenth-century theater ...
Maybe yes, but instead of remaining vague, do some examples? Because I actually saw attacks on these booklets of devotion do not have much foundation.
... so what the Pope said there is.
Hardly: because maybe in the devotional booklets there will be something a little strict, but there were popes and bishops who spoke clearly. What we are talking about is yet another episode in a long series, “seasoned” senseless obvious bishops and priests who revel in various parts of the world. Comment by Don Paolo below shows the situation well.
Do not touch me repeat what was said in a commentary two weeks ago: "It seems to me that the – as it were – constant double of the Pope's speeches is due, in spite of himself, the immanent mold theology of which yes it is nurtured and in which he wanted to see especially the seemingly compassionate look. "
Dad, if he wanted to be poetic but not ambiguous, He could rather be inspired by a magnificent step in a philosopher who had not known the Revelation: “We say, therefore, why the author realized the generation and this universe. He was good, and who is good will never generate any envy about anything: essendone therefore exempt, he wanted everything to be generated, as far as possible, simile of” (Plato, Timeo). And say: God created us because he was good; because it was good wanted us to participate in His life; and its goodness prevented him, as it were, to abandon us when we fell in original sin.
In truth, to scare, and more …
The popes pass, but often the damage remain, and remain for decades, sometimes for centuries.
So I'm not scared to certain unhappy outputs, but I'm scared for all bishops newly appointed many priests and that emulate, but worse mimic certain things.
In a few years the speaker of these ambiguous speeches and unhappy if he returns to the Father's House, While all other, emulators and scimmiottatori, remain ahead of the curve for other decades.
This what worries me much …
Don Francis, I'm afraid you're not the only one to be concerned.
By now, to create confusion, no damage evident that we can see and that only the blind can not see, but the terrible dilemma: how to repair them after? Someone says (and I will fear), perhaps take decades, if all goes well …
E’ It was important that you're Fathers intervened to immediately correct and charitably the meaning of that sermon read in S. Peter and not S. March (He would do less damage).
He reiterated again at the end before the Lord's Prayer “….we also think of the Father Our Father, who can not be without us……”, also replacing the verb to be to stay, The meaning varies slightly or that God exists only if there is the man.
The time that you metabolize all witness to many new online comments on various blogs of Christian faith.
Too bad that you often experience these events in part because his. We hope that is not emulated by shepherds in homilies.
Holy night, that the Holy Spirit gifts of the Faithful, Christian and Catholic clarity.
thank you note clarifying.
Actually I also thank you for bringing all the pope's words now read line by line and I come out shocked. The only thought that comes to mind is the lack of language.
However, what I regret is the almost constant need to clarify the pope's words. Your note does this unhappy task … not because the note is unhappy. On the contrary! it is precious … but because it is neither in heaven or on earth that a pope should always be explained. Is not it time “of just”?
But the gift of prudence, this stranger?