The disturbing phenomenon of Medjugorje and the director of Radio Maria Father Livio Fanzaga: a gosparo fanatizzante he thinks of converting with fears that are the very negation of the Holy Gospel
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On the fact a progressive priest Paolo Farinella thunders with this title and these words
I received a Whatsapp sound that invites us to pray against the 'divine punishment'. well, a God so I will leave it!
“…Then they followed the hundreds of epidemics of various kinds brought by invaders in "New Mando". In modern times, cholera, Ebola, SARS and other good things - all free gifts - so spasimavamo, up to the coronavirus (Covid-19) icing of a god invented to make mass terrorism. A worst god of the others because today does not die people milionate, but it is content to let her suffer, torture, remove the breath with built Goduria, because his sadistic nature is not satisfied unless the suffering of his followers, disinclined to prostrations and penances. A God so, by catholic and apostolic priest, Gift sees, I'll leave you and I will not have you nothing to do”.
We can afford to be a little lost and bewildered the contradictory behavior of ministers and historians of the Church in these circumstances.
She is a dietician or nutritionist?
Because the recipe and the ingredients of vegetable soup which provided us, they are outstanding!
Let me Father to say that she really overly angry. From the way he expresses it seems that the Roman-Amazonian riguadino facts just do Minutella and the Vatican and not others. You very well know Professor de Mattei Lepanto Foundation that looks like historian of Christianity and theologian of history. He had words of total condemnation of the known facts trasteverini culminated in more or less sensational demonstrations
Besides that there is a fierce contrapposiziobe in Catholicism it also reveal the extreme positions on the nature of the epidemic in progress
De Mattei has even compared the behavior of the Almighty that of Tamerlane and invites you to discover the root causes (spiritual ) behind the physical facts and the messages they hide for our correction and redemption
Tamerlane is coming?
Ps : not to be misunderstood : My opinion expressed in the previous post has nothing to do with an acrobat from the falsetto voice of Padre Pio and Our Lady over the water "ferrarelle" miraculous ( although not drinking-;) called Minutella. Another Harlequin.
@Salvatore
I do not give importance to private revelations including those approved by the Church even less so in Medjugorje ( what good? The sacred scriptures than enough to live the faith).
I fully agree instead on obrobrio indecent and diabolical Pachamamma and L essersici prostrate in the holy seat of Peter and even taking her in procession with Bergoglio and retinue of the cardinal blessing . I read that Bergoglio in these days of "his" newspaper (The Republic) sanctified still alive Fabio Fazio ( the list is long : Pannella, Bonino,Napolitano….).
You have a doubt that it is an imposter . I have the certainty that is still The only Pope Benedict XVI still white robe , ring ,Papal coat of arms and "munus" Petrine in isolation "induced".
And the other ? well… a Merry Pachamammo vicar of His Eminence Eugenio Scalfari .
There is no end to the worst…..the Church has never known a situation like the current L …we lacked even His Holiness Pachamammo of Pampa.
Much more worrying of Medjugorje and various appearances , true and false , more false than true ,that now teem like mushrooms all over the world.
If you think this way, I suggest you join this schismatic sect, if it did not already part
https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Organization/Piccola-Nazareth-135271273159418/
https://www.facebook.com/radiodominanostra/
“As regards the present case , here is what I say :Not from these men and let them go. If in fact this theory or this activity is of human origin, It will be destroyed; but if it comes from God , not be able to defeat them; you may even find yourselves fighting against God! ” (Acts 5 , 38-39)
Sergio
very true!
Do not ever "against God", in particular today, whereas Santa Carmen Hernandez Doctor of the Church co-initiator of the Neocatechumenal Way, He is working at full capacity in Paradise as first counselor in the utmost confidence of the Almighty.
And when Christ will return in glory to judge the living and the dead, to his right and to his left, Kiko and Carmen and we will show him the good and the bad.
Unfortunately, the matter is a bad catch that can only be understood by studying the history of Bosnia and the substitute role of the Franciscans, in the absence of secular clergy under the Turks, who crossed each new age in years 70. I do not know if the papal commissions have attacked these studies. more genertale also Eastern Europe and the Balkans, always balanced or subdued by the Turks, It was a hotbed of prophets, not only Catholics, but Orthodox, Jews, Muslims, that moved huge crowds.
the results of tests. just see who they were and what they became the first brothers who have 'seen’ the seers – their first runs the church takes to good ... -. Perhaps the lady never even appeared in Caravaggio and many smaller places in past centuries, but the sanctuary has made her well to many simple needy. the difference, objective, It is that the visionaries of the past were not firing gioachimite forecasts new age sauce, otherwise they would be tried and silenced.
it is not clear from the beginning of the visions medjiugorie, but studying facts and previous biographies, including monks.
Alberto, He knows some reference text from which to explore the question? It seems a particularly interesting topic but do not even know what to start looking to document.
And 'thanks to diligent uncles Mr. Salvatore that happens as described by Hertha von Dechen in this passage of his essay "The concept of Symmetry in archaic cultures";
"In Polynesia, where thanks to our noble missionaries and indigenous administrators have forgotten almost everything, we have no information on the 'measures of the sky " ; It is only during the most serious crisis , for example, when 'the heavens are confused', we hear talk about Tane (Saturn is still) that falls from his tenth sky with the 'extent of the sky "to restore order”.
Ca va sans dire that the Polynesians, as many archaic peoples, more or less survived the 'rectification' Western secular and religious admirably joint, They were intact depositories of a grand cosmological apparatus of which only a few years ago we see the wise complexity
Of course I find it blasphemous exposure of “idols” the holy places of Catholicism, even if such “idols” simply they were returned to their rightful holders
A. B.
A little’ as Ptolemy. He was a wise depository of complexity. Instead, today's astronomers are ignorant. Come no.
Igino you see that you've never read studied and understood (I I include myself among the last) the writings of de Santillana and Von Dechen. It is not a fault. Not Mandatory, But do not shoot inadequate judgments on their work. Ptolemy was well older than him came from the past and therefore it matters little. I pemetto to offer her a passage “Sirius” which it suggests that astronomy served to other things to wat you need now and, as the geometry that was not born to measure the area of the henhouse or the multiplication table multiplications, astronomy led to the understanding of the cosmos. “The rectangular Earth, geometrically incommensurable, It can become commensurable if it is properly inserted in the time frame; only time “the moving image of eternity”, that moves according to the number realizes the enterprise to make our miserable ecumenne rectangular commensurable with the sphere of the Identical- at least at rhythmic intervals”
Then 'someone’ He has seen fit to even scartigliare the memory of this wonderful mechanism from the minds of men.
And polinesia, no compass and no sextant. were i…
The statue of Mejugorie not only comes from Medjiugorie but "represents" the Madonna of Medjugorje . That statue with outstretched hand , It is depicted that way only in Medjugorie .
It is not a particularly indifferent.
However there remains doubt in the certainty of Pachamamma with attached recognized Priapus , respected ( or worshiped?) prostati to the ground by way of Muslims and with their blessing of our Pope in the sacred seat of Christianity : the Vatican . From now on should be legitimate , indeed "good thing" among the saints and madonnas various well put the various Pachamamma , as in Santeria practiced in Central and South America ( but also in certain parts of North America Miami and New York) . Poor the deceased uncle of my missionary Salesian priest 40 years in South America that has always fought that stuff .It must be turning in his grave . Sometimes I wonder if this Dad is a sham … doubt that systematically reject (obviously)
Happy : Medjugorje appears the Virgin Mary.
Thank you dear Savior because of his admirable conclusion:
"Happy: Medjugorje appears the Virgin Mary ".
In practice she wrote: “since I think … I feel … since according to me …” therefore, the authenticity judgment on the phenomenon of the Church, however, not given – and I repeat not given – I do not I could care an emeritus …
She confirmed the central point of my article: fanatics fanatizzanti, of which she is the paradigm.
Thank you!
I thought it was common knowledge that the nine secrets of Medjugorje were ten, but perhaps it is as well as I feel …
What worries me is that “Happy, Our Lady appears in Medjugorje!”, come dirs: the commission Ruini and Pope Francis, they did not understand anything. Only we understood everything we medugoriani… Bah, It will be a new religion!
there Maria “save” in the sense p. is. of Maria “Salvation of the Roman People” (for induced: salus = salvation in Latin). He has always said. It saves us interceding for us before God.
Just today, 25 Years ago – 15 March 1995 – the statue of the Queen of Peace in Medjugorje wept tears of blood – They are begun on 2 February – for the fourteenth and last time just in the hands of the Bishop Monsignor Girolamo Grillo.
Let us turn to our Heavenly Mother a plea to help us and protect all of us in this hour of tribulation.
Dear p.Ariel'm not sure that you have got my message,They are not practical of these means and this fact is riprovo.Il:the statue of Civitavecchia comes from Medjugorje is a parish priest of the church of S gift,Agostino Don Pablo Martin Gregori.Non the family will make nod and so I think this ignoravi TV plug,what do you think,I'd like to know what you think,with esteem thanks Elio Nicolò had already sent…but I would like you to answer me,thank you
It's not me that I have to answer to her, but she has to answer to me and to those who read: for her, what is a “he tries”?
expensive p. Ariel,You do not mention the fact that the statue of the Madonna of Civitavecchia comes from Medjugorje ,gift of Don Pablo Martin Gregori.Non the family makes you think that there is a connection between the two phenomena? I would love to hear your thoughts to estimate riguardo.con,Thank you, Elio.
And now? Even the Pope associate the word “salvation” to the Madonna (“..you…sign of salvation;…salvation of the Roman people”). We must think of evil? (Prayer for Coronavirus yesterday, 11.3.2020) . Father Livio uses the term in the same way, scusi…and at least he does not say anywhere else that the Madonna is only “donna”, solo “discepola” contradicting itself, indeed very pasticciandone Figure (“Our Lady miscegenation God” the meaning of which no one understood him, much less the prepared theologians (Pope Francis homily at Our Lady of Guadalupe on 12 December 2019). Also on my pope, however, God forbid, but not always necessarily to follow when speaking in a haphazard manner,. Or I hurt to remember this confusion ?
Rev. Father Ariel, I am sorry but the expression :” Daughter of Your Son… ” and the poet Dante Alighieri poem Paradise XXXIII.
Kind regards.
Luigi Carraro
I thought it was universally known, Dante opens with Canto XXXIII of Paradise “Prayer to the Virgin of San Bernardo”, ie with a mass prayer by Dante in the mouth of St. Bernard of Clairvaux. Prayer that, if it was written by St. Bernard in the twelfth century, first of all, it would not have been written in the vernacular but in Latin Cicero.
Reverend Father Ariel,
Do you think that even the “Madonna of Civitavecchia” is a deception?
I would like to hear his opinion about it-
Thanks so much-
Ambrogio St. Peter
Dear Ambrose,
I state that the judgment belongs to the Church and that none of us priests, personal or individual level, can in any way replace or anticipate this judgment declaring an authentic phenomenon.
But I can tell you that it is an entirely different, even because, The main and fundamental witness is the Bishop Girolamo Grillo, I met and mouth which, together with other priests, heard the story.
The bishop was quite skeptical and called for granted that it was a hoax, then he alerted the judicial authorities advancing the hypothesis of abuse of popular credulity.
At that point the judge ruled the seizure of the statuette, which it was placed in storage in a closet of the Bishop with the seals placed by the judicial police.
After the survey was placed on dissequesto. A quel point, the judicial police took off the seals and opened the closet, Bishop pulled from inside the statue be returned to owners. When the statue was in the hands of the bishop, She began to weep blood, all in the presence of nine persons.
Bishop Girolamo Grillo threatened heart attack, He was attacked by strong tachycardia and it was necessary to run the cardiologist immediately.
this synthesis in the testimony given by the bishop and the same repeated at several interlocutors.
As you can understand it is a very different phenomenon, on which in each case, the church, in twenty-five years, It has not yet expressed.
On Civitavecchia there is a study very well done by Marco Corvaglia. Perhaps it is good to read.
In the case of Civitavecchia, There is first of all a bishop started with a cautious skepticism position and then become a witness lacrimation, because it is a fact that the statue in question the Lacrimo in his hands.
Unlike the case of Medjugorje, where for three decades, the bishops of the local Episcopal Conference and Bosnian bishops who have succeeded in the Diocese of Mostar in whose canonical jurisdiction over Medjugorje, deny the supernatural nature of the event since its first event.
The family protagonist of Civitavecchia, It is immediately subject to the authority of the local bishop, living a decent life and retreat, remaining as it was; pseudo seers of Medjugorje are stars International and the phenomenon grew rich, They are no longer the same as before but lead creasing lives on welfare and on luxury, What it also accepted by the study commission, who could not omit to state “their relationship with money, one in particular”.
These facts.
I believe that Medjugorje and Civitavecchia are two very different situations.
Dearest Father Ariel,
Thanks for pointing out the facts that they saw featuring the Bishop Grillo in Civitavecchia –
(I went there on a private pilgrimage 15 august of 2006: I found myself alone, in a hot noon, between the cicadas and a group of devoted gypsy; since, every time I am going to think or say anything about gypsies, I stop, I think also to the colored group, and I bite my tongue).
I must confess that they are debated on Medjugorje; But when my balance is going to hang for no, I think back now to Civitavecchia and reasonable credibility of the testimony of the Bishop, and then I wonder: BVM may have actually manifested through a statuette from Medjugorje, and Medjugorje engraved with the inscription at its base, if Medjugorje was a hoax?
If it was not a disrespectful thought, It would seem a mockery!
I can not capacitarmene…
The statue of Civitavecchia came from Medjugorje.
Father Flavio Ubodi cappuccino, Official consultant of Civitavecchia diocese regarding the events of the Madonnina, states that the Church in the person of diocesan bishops which shall have the jurisdiction over, It has repeatedly and unequivocally in favor.
And the story of the Madonna of Civitavecchia? When he began to weep in the hands of the incredulous Bishop Grillo had such an illness…But is not the experience of the words recorded in Isaiah?:
For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
your ways are not my ways – oracle of the Lord.
For as the heavens are above the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways,
and my thoughts than your thoughts. ”
A Jewish girl chanced amazing things , conception without knowing man and childbirth for example virginal…., and we are surprised that your son let us know, to be convicted, teach us, like a mother?And all this through the visionaries who are instruments, simple tools and not for this spontaneously Saints.
No father Ariel, this time I'm sure you're wrong, and God will judge these people and of their possible misuse of the enormous effluvium thanks.
Dearest Father Ariel, I have been to Medjugorje and listening (less and less to be honest because of a growing unease) Radio Maria. I acknowledge , in my ignorance immeasurable, I learned a lot from RM and have seen at first hand an atmosphere of serenity and faith in Medjugorje but also many doubts I have arisen. As you can defend these seers it is undeniable that the social life around them represent a unique case in the history of the Church. No other seer or witness of supernatural events has never had an easy life (if anything has had a life marked by deep suffering and difficulties, just compare the experiences of Lourdes or Fatima ) and you never had this type of access and attendance with the Divine. Neither I can not conceive how it is possible for human beings to have authentic contact with the Madonna (and receive 7) then, practically, inventing or simulating 30 years of false appearances. Similarly Father Livio (which is capable person, intentioned and deeply loves the Church)It appears increasingly intransigent, almost obsessive,, often, politically deployed.
Dear Roberto, see p. Livio really loved his Church, would not say these heresies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diC1ZhRyzB4
But above all demonstrate the love of God, not railing against those who do not think like him!
Seeing is believing.
During the Last Supper Jesus said,:
"I give you a new commandment: that you love one another; as I have loved you, you also must love one another.
By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another. " (GV 13, 34-35).
I am sorry, but after reading her article, I do find it hard to recognize it as a disciple of Jesus Christ.
Even his words convinced me more and more that we live in a time when anyone dares to even use the word of God to plant or food hatred and division within the Church, with the presumption for more to be better than others.
I do not think that you have more gifts of wisdom and discernment of St. John Paul II, who believed in the apparitions of Medjugorje (started a little over a month after his assassination) and about them he said to the other (to reliable witnesses):
“If you were not Pope, I would have gone to Medjugorje.”
“Medjugorje is a world center of spirituality.”
“These messages are the key to understanding what is happening and what will happen in the world.”
“Medjugorje is the continuation of the message of Fatima.”
“Protect Medjugorje. And the…
… and why, the Supreme Pontiff John Paul II, in 26 long years of pontificate, He has never recognized the apparitions and the messages?
Someone might put a gun to his temple and threatened prevented him?
It alone is liable, saw that under his pontificate were repeatedly prohibited official pilgrimages to the Holy See gave reason to the local bishops, much attacked and insulted by medjugoriani, guilty because it had never recognized the authenticity of the phenomenon.
Please answer, before pulling dancing inappropriately San Giovanni Paolo II.
CUMULATIVE RESPONSE
They have been published all the messages sent to the office, except for those containing florilegia of gratuitous insults addressed to me.
Reading these posts is evidence and proof of what I wrote in my article: the subjective emotional element is for many people the meter and measure to guarantee the authenticity of a phenomenon that at the time, I like chiunqe, we have the legitimate freedom does not perceive the supernatural, until the Church has not given a definitive answer that until now has not given.
To prove the authenticity of this phenomenon, many people who have written prepend these reasons, as it were irrefutable:
1. I have heard …
2. I was converted …
3. I have seen and I think, in my opinion …
4. etc …
In short: the phenomenon is genuine because “I have heard” and why “in my opinion”.
Medjugorje is one of the greatest phenomena of emotional fideism that causes many people to transcend the fanaticism and in a form of real new religion: the religion medjugoriana.
If tomorrow, the church, He was to declare the real phenomenon, at that point for me it will be no genuine worth discussion. But none of this happened today is still.
SLDG!
Dear father Ariel, I congratulate you for the courage to publicly correct an “bastion” / “ironclad” as RM and more’ namely its Director.
I state that I am grateful to RM of countless hours of very valid transmissions, unique in the Italian. I remember with particular affection the moments of prayer.
Regarding Medjugorie believe pero’ that its correction Father Livio is perfectly centered and necessary.
I also saw his speech to D&R and its very clear explanations were also manipulated by Amicone. The parallel drawn by Odifreddi (Odifreddi!) and Paul VI,’ It was a masterful jab to explain to grand the obvious.
Knowing your past, I imagine the pain and suffering that you should try when apostrophe by a layman esagitato (that ultimatums to Madonna) to take a trip to Medjugorje. Please, He offers His personal suffering and humiliation which receives for the good of the Church and of our beautiful Italy. God reward!
PS
To his readers that understand English this brief catechesis Card. Arinze says * all *: https://www.youtube…
father ariel, because the phenomenon was not, it is done yet. He can not do even the current Pope (or am I wrong?). But what I've read and heard, privately he had no problems. For Civitavecchia, his veneration was only done in private. However I do not go to the Vatican circles as you. Inform yourself and tell us, as it did and wrote for other cases. The ability and word fluency is not the shortage of. I will hear.
(Here we also vorrebe a Vittorio Messori to answer us)
How could St. John Paul II issued the judgment “consisted of supernatural” for still taking the course?
The Church has no obligation to wait for the end of a phenomenon to issue an opinion.
The Church has repeatedly recognized as inauthentic phenomena which were in full swing.
Who says that the Church did not rule because the phenomenon has been going on for over three decades, considering at the same time authentic, It acts dishonestly.
Just like those who pretend to approve sending in Medjugorje as apostolic delegate Archbishop Emeritus of Warsaw.
That bishop was sent to check what is happening and to try to manage a phenomenon out of control.
The proof of this?
Shortly after his arrival forbade categorically that during the celebrations and the preaching was in fact any kind of reference to the appearances and the daily messages of self-styled seers. To priests who had disregarded these provisions, It would be immediately revoked the faculty to celebrate the Holy Mass, preach and administer confessions in Medjugorje.
This is so.
Millions of people who believe in Medjugorje are a proof of authenticity “Voice of the people, voice of God“.
Absolutely not.
The fact that millions of people have believed in Soviet communism, to Nazism, the cultural revolution of Mao, and so on, he never made these saints and authentic phenomena because it followed by millions and millions of people.
E’ is true that the Church “He has repeatedly recognized as inauthentic phenomena which were in full swing”, But I am not that I have ever recognized as authentic phenomena still in their place.
As far as I know, on the first seven appearances after the judgment it has been “there is no evidence of the supernatural”, that is a “ni”.
Dear Orenzo,
unfortunately there is a great misunderstanding in progress.
The Church has nothing recognized, for now. There was a committee that has done and delivered a study, so the Pope can be helped to decide what he deems appropriate to decide.
Those who want to force an implicit recognition never happened, They attach themselves to say … “At that time, authorized pilgrimages?”, “allow so many people to go?”, “allow the celebrations?”.
They are in fact forcing.
Only in Italy we have dozens of places where it is said to have occurred manifestations of the supernatural, that the Church has never recognized, however, he did not prevent people to go to those places to pray, or it prohibited in some cases the construction of places of worship.
The problem is when this one tries to pass it off as forcibly approval.
Even in Civitavecchia, the Church allows people going to pray, to participate in the Holy Mass and to confession in the place where an event took place that the Church has never recognized, until now.
In short: until the Supreme Pontiff will be pronounced, Medjugorje is just a place where it is allowed to go to pray, confess and participate in the sacred celebrations, everything else is just forcing.
For the rest it's true, Unfortunately: the style of these times, They have not said yes and did not say no, but as she says they told “ni”, while many expect a clear answer, also to respond to the people, unlike some priests who take no small responsibility, before the Church did not rule, to consider authentic this phenomenon and guarantee it as such to the faithful, What this really very serious.
The church (meaning that as the local Bishop, as well as Roma), It recognized, more than once, appearances before they would end. Farm Bethany (Venezuela), eg.
Most of the statements that are attributed S. John Paul II, especially "If I were not Pope, I would have gone to Medjugorje. " are totally invented. Word of the card. Ratzinger. Open your eyes and is not gospista.
Praised be Jesus Christ, dear father Ariel. totally agree with his thesis on the phenomenon of Medjugorje, and even more the hassle for fans and propagator of heresies father Livio. It looks like a priest who pursues said “go where it takes you the money “. In fact it is not his only crush. Father Livio is also a great friend and supporter of the Neocatechumenal Way. We know that in the movement circulate much money and so many heresies.
Just in February on the site “Observatory on the Neocatechumenal Way ” We have addressed the problem by transcribing a letter of Father Zoffoli to Father Livio Radio Maria. Here are some links, are all over 7:
https://neocatecumenali.blogspot.com/2020/02/ora-come-allora-1-nel-1994-zoffoli-l-aveva-capito.html?m=1
https://neocatecumenali.blogspot.com/2020/02/ora-come-allora-2-nel-1994-zoffoli-l-aveva-capito.html?m=1
https://neocatecumenali.blogspot.com/2020/02/ora-come-allora-3-nel-1994-zoffoli-l-aveva-capito.html?m=1
Thanks again for the work he does for us faithful in search of Truth.
Frilù
list of flaws of life of pseudo seers of Medjugorje also add this, which it has gone unnoticed by most.
https://www.radiospada.org/2020/01/medjugorje-cade-maschera-per-nozze-della-figlia-di-mirjana-ingaggiata-pop-star-sessualmente-esplicita-blasfema/
The hypothesis of pseudoveggenti and no credibility to all appearances does not seem plausible by the fact that just to see Medjgorie, from about 40 year old, many people praying, to confess, receive the Holy Eucharist and to express their sincere devotion to Mater Dei, What you can not see anywhere else!
Many of the supporters of the cause of Medjugorje often use repeating the Gospel teaching ”from the fruits ye shall know them” explaining that very few places Marian, today, They can boast an endless series of conversions or re-conversions to the Catholic Faith. Good, I long ago I wonder, if it was to return to Christ it is for these people that go to Medjugorje and not of conversion to a pseudo faith christianist, What would happen if tomorrow the famous secrets were not revealed and were bequeathed to the children or relatives of the visionaries?
Since this does not generate then a disastrous fall of shattered hopes of millions of poor ”faithful” who rightly feel cheated?
And tempers so emotional and superficial, how they would react in a similar trauma?
Maybe that does not ripudierebbero (at this point rightly) the gospa medjugoriana and the little that there was still a Catholic in their lives?
In this possible future demystification of Medjugorje could have devastating consequences for the Roman Catholic Christianity.
The devastating consequences for the Roman Catholic Christianity, certainly when it comes to light the deception of Medjougorie and millions of faithful will be prey to disappointment and despair to have believed six liars, seem the result of a diabolical plan to scuttle the Church of Christ.
Who knows when we will understand don Fanzaga. May God enlighten.
Dear Father Ariel, I respect her and follow her but today I have a little’ distance myself from his thoughts. First, because, as you yourself have told us very clearly of his life, law is “the newest” and as such should at least have a little’ more prudence and respect Father Livio, certain man as everyone, can he’ sometimes it is bitten by the argument that he cares (however, with peaks much less over the top of you), .
Second, as a regular listener of Radio Maria, I can reassure you that I never had any doubts about what you say and also that Father Livio knows and repeats: salvation comes only from Jesus that is God. If Father Livio often uses the phrase “Maria saves us”, I always understood in’ sense of “protects”, “it helps”, “intercede” and so Father Livio if I may speak for him as it is by now a familiar figure in my life.
She can’ well express his opinion on Medjugorje which is valid. I've got another. So even priests, bishops and popes have done, and they do so on a daily basis the opposite. As you also know, and teaches, what he thinks and expresses “arm” not even a Pope “does the church” until the…
Themselves. Alexander,
Fully agree with her, but I also understand the father Ariel. For me Father Livio is the greatest living Italian, I would at the same time Pope and President of the Republic, but in fact from a strictly orthodox view as true and proven that the apparitions of Medjugorje established and approved by the Church are not (although they probably are true, given the evangelical criteria of good fruit products from almost 40 year old). From Father Livio appreciate, among the many things, his great ability to tell the whole truth, without offending, without dividing, tackling even the most difficult subjects with wisdom mixed with irony, and in a manner understandable to all. The truth of Medjugorje Father Livio has bet his life, all Radio Maria is based on this bet, and it does not seem possible to me that Heaven has allowed all this on the basis of false appearances.
The question I always think roughly the same things. I say “more or less” not because of certain aspects of it has some valuation differences, but because I never much depth, also a kind of instinctive discomfort.
Reverend Father Ariel,
The cheering from the curve that shines through Catholic laymen in the studio is about as far from healthy balance. His jabs to the uproar from the stadium are like pure water.
Luckily someone sings p. Livio taking care of her soul!
By now the Medjugorje phenomenon of the grotesque.
But what hurts is the ambiguous position of the church and the conclusions of the commission Ruini…
So the Holy Virgin appears seven times in the boys…. and these pass the next 40 years to make fun of the people of God! Beautiful fruit really beautiful fruits!
They should immediately listen to the bishop of Mostar and stop this farce before the gosparo p . Livio has done much to publicize.
father ariel, She has made this clear when a worried and widespread phenomenon: the reduction of faith to emotionality, as such in need of charismatic leaders, events and thrills. I wonder whether this is not a consequence (involuntary) of certain choices, certainly made with all the good intentions of the case, that they have characterized the S pontificate. John Paul II, with GMG, rallies, goodwill towards certain movements and so on. As for the undoubted benefits that occur in Mediugorie, net of justifiably serious reservations raised by you, could be yet another case of a God who “also he writes straight on crooked lines”.
Has there ever been in the church a time of such great confusion? Who says A , Some say B , who says A but also . And we mere sheep who thinks. I'd like a word of TRUTH! Am I asking too much?
Dear Don Ariel, I agree with you on many things , for instance, the richness of the visionaries. But the Church also has many riches and these do not affect the validity of his words.
To me it is dear that the messages contain wise and constructive words. The Vienna cardinal said : ” I confessed more people to Mediugorie in three days in Vienna in a year. If indeed there are confessions, a me – frankly- It is not interested in whether or not the Madonna. Today Confession is truly the ” litmus test” of the Catholic faith.- Don Romano Nicolini – Rimini
Dear don Ariel, I am not your own appraiser, but after watching last night the 'Straight bet and reverse', I think I will be. You said it , the Medjugorje phenomenon, things that for years I'm thinking! What leaves me perplexed is strongly and negatively fail to understand the Commission Ruini., which, instead support the bishops of Mostar, It seems to get across and, indirectly, I understand that you blame them for failing to address these pseudo-seers. and the masses that they had called in that place. How many scholars of this phenomenon will have it figured out?
Father Ariel Estimated,
I am the son of one of the first pilgrims, that you went to Medjugorje’ In the 1982, tornandone enthusiastic and saying he had witnessed the miracle of “sun dance”. My mother is not un'allucinata and I have no reason to doubt his good faith, nor of his mental health. I then grew up in the belief that the phenomenon was genuine, but recently this belief has been shaken, on one side, by objective scandal of behavior “fortune tellers”, and on the other by the content often heretical certain statements attributed to the Blessed Virgin (I think the conference Dr. D'Amico on the subject available on YouTube).
I ask her: how can I reconcile my doubts, now strong, on authenticity, with the phenomenon when my mother would attend? E’ can image that it was a preternatural phenomenon, that evil? E’ can image that God allows evil to deceive to the point masses of faithful to the point of performing miracles reminiscent, in all and for all, those recognized in Fatima?
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Dear Don advise prior to discredit Medjugorje to go there. Then you can have two views. As for me if it were not for that place, I would be far from God. So many people have returned to God, because of Medjugorje. The greeting
For me, reading is always a charm. Thanks to you I learn a lot about the Church's teaching. Years ago I had enrolled in Religious Studies but then God has chosen one for me.
Tonight I will begin to read Anselm, I hope you enlighten me in this dark and painful road. A prayer for all those who are sick, sprawled on a hospital bed, counting the endless minutes that separate them from healing, by a run in the fields, the sun shines on the skin and makes them rejoice in just for the fact of being new in the world.