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The website of this magazine and the editions take name from the Aegean island in which the Blessed Apostle John wrote the Book of the Apocalypse, isola also known as «the place of the last revelation»
«God revealed the secrets of others ALTIUS»
(in higher than the others, John has left the Church, the arcane mysteries of God)
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MANUELA LUZZARDI
Dear father Ariel, as you know, I too have often been an accuser towards you and your collaborators but at least I have never had any advantages or referring groups to defend, at maximum, solipsistically, I was an accomplice of the demon of pride who seduced me , however, citing at least an excerpt of motivation in this regard.
What drives me to write is that , if in kikolatri followers this is always unfounded present state, now even among paratraditionalists or exalted progressives the style is this.
Endless bias with attached fanaticism.
Now it is not that I want to take back my judgments on some of your methods or ideas proposed and for this I write that it seems to me that I was precisely for this reason a deer that says horned to the ox towards you, all the more so because my deep thoughts are unknown and unexposed.
Having said that, I remain more and more shocked…it remains disconcerting how we can no longer reaffirm the reality of things even before the truth itself.
Oh well. Good day
I'm glad Ariel knows more than six popes……….
yes I know now you will attack with the catchphrase the Pope corrected you………………
ARIEL??? YOU DO NOT SHIT NESSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
A few empty words of wisdom and wisdom that fully express the POISON in which, be careful, it could rot. And “school” as long as he has the iniquitous strength, but be calm, and rather have recourse to the grain of intelligence that dwells in you to convince yourself that p. Ariel is well armored “other” energy and that fortunately SOMEONE SPAN IT
Of course! Sick brains who follow the broadcasts where they like so much to be seen in a skirt are spinning
… and she has never wondered why I wear it up to my heels (hence the name cassock, from the Latin talus heel)?
Above all, Have you ever wondered what I care about, all speakers?
E’ a very complex metaphysical question, I don't know if it gets there, she who does not go beyond the kika song rhythmic between guitars and bongos «… drowned cavaaaaaallo and cavaliereeeee ".
Careful rather that God's punishment does not drown her, because he has always been jealous of His priests.
Fearless Nfjs (His name is shabby but there will probably be serious reasons why many love to communicate like rabbits…), it is frighteningly disheartening to see how the Ben of your intellect leads you to express yourself only on “a skirt”, instead of leading It further, where the merit of the energetic interventions unfolds, frank and COURAGEOUS of Fr.. Ariel… ….. … in those favorite broadcasts by “diseased brains”…….. . But I wonder why you waste your time visiting certain television sites for insane people, rather than enjoying the agreeableness of broadcasts for “perfectly healthy brains”; networks abound!
Fearless (so to speak ) Nfjs (shabby his name… but there will probably be serious reasons why many love to communicate like rabbits…), it is frighteningly disheartening to see how the Ben of her intellect leads her to express herself only on “a skirt”, instead of pushing it further, where the merit of the energetic interventions unfolds, frank and COURAGEOUS of Fr.. Ariel, always long awaited in those broadcasts that it defines “favored by sick brains” . But I wonder why she wastes her time visiting certain television sites for “demented” (in his unpleasant opinion), of which, if anything, I criticize the wild and uncontrolled overlapping of comments, instead of enjoying the pleasantness of programs made to measure for her and for them “perfectly healthy brains” of which networks abound!
Said , attributed to Zosima of Palestine, father of the desert of the 6th century .
” If one accepts within oneself the memory of those who have afflicted or mistreated or saddened or damaged him, he must remember him as a doctor sent by Christ and must consider him as a benefactor. The very fact that you feel afflicted by these things is a sign of a sick soul: if in fact you weren't sick, you would not suffer. And you have to rejoice in your brother , because thanks to him you know your illness; you must pray for him and welcome what comes from him as a medicine that the Lord has sent you to heal you. But if you are indignant against him, it is as if I were actually saying to Jesus: I don't want to accept your meds, I prefer to rot in my wounds
As good masters of lies, the neocats will scream: “Thank you holiness for these dispositions of yours, we will obey immediately. Long live the Pope!” and then they will do as they please.
No more charges for life?
Fine. It means that all the leaders and leaders will become emeritus: “if a Pope did it, imagine if we can't do it”.
After that they will name a little’ of half figures who nominally will have to replace them but which in reality will count as the two of trump cups.
From the alleged Paul and true insulting neocat I ask only one thing: because lies are needed to defend the path?
Dear Father Ariel, I know the Neocatechumenal Way closely and for a short time, many years ago when I was a kid, I frequented them. There is something good in their experience that attracts many souls in search of truth even if the negative aspects that you and other theologians have highlighted are much heavier and darker.. What has always rejected me about their experience is the grave attitude taken by its most convinced followers (fortunately not all), many of which change the masked face. Same words, same mimicry, same accent. In addition to parasitizing the parishes, also parasitize hearts. Uncritical adhesion to the aesthetic canon, architectural and musical dictated by Kiko, combined with the contempt of ancient churches where faith flourished, disfigured by alterations and expanses of carpet. An old parish priest, where I come from, after so many years that made them spread to the parish, one day he decided to throw them out and he succeeded. When he saw that the premises where he wanted to carry out useful activities for the parish were inaccessible due to their dominion, he opened his eyes. It would be enough for the parish priests to resume truly proclaiming the Gospel and taking care of the liturgy to make them evaporate.
….confirm your call, I support your mission and bless your charisma…..
Why should this Ariel add even a single comma to the words of the Holy Father?
If you are not in line with the Pope, because you still call yourself a Christian and a Catholic?
It is not by chance that the SETTA is you dear Ariel?
Do not ask yourself why no one has summoned you ... because it is not enough to appear in a petticoat on TV or to copy some theological text to put yourself on top of the Pope…did you know that?
If you are not in line with the Pope, go your own way but no longer be a CIARLATANO on TV claiming that you are a Catholic……because you are a SCAMPER and you give a truly disgusting image of the Church!
Please GET AWAY FROM DON MINUTELLA…THAT IS YOUR PLACE!!!
In the CHURCH either you obey or YOU GO…understood????
And before and after this sentence, the Supreme Pontiff, what did he tell you? For her, Of 14 minutes of speech in which the Holy Father Francis made you fur and counter hair, there is only the phrase “I confirm your call, I support your mission and bless your charism "?
And all the rest? He warned you not to make closed circles, not to invade other cultures with your beliefs, to seek collaboration and unity in parish communities and not division, he told you that it is better to give up certain habits and ways of doing things in order not to create fractures, he reminded you to be docile towards bishops and parish priests, etc …
But for her these 14 minutes of reproaches do not exist, because there is only the sentence: «I confirm your call, I support your mission and bless your charism ".
The worst and most bloody dictatorial regimes of the past and present have existed, have proliferated and exist thanks to brainwashed people like you and deprived of the rudimentary capacity for reason and critical sense.
Then, a neocatechumenal who intimates me “obedience”, he belongs to a movement that has proliferated us for half a century on disobedience to the liturgical and doctrinal provisions of the Holy See, she is the same as a brothel keeper who goes out in the morning for a walk and throws accusations of lack of virginity at the good girls from the city she meets on the street.
I don't know dear father. Let it be one “sect”, and they behave as such, it is evident to those who have a minimum of common sense. Not all for charity. I do not doubt that in the journey there are also people in good faith and balanced, also known personally. There is no doubt that the fact that, in a climate of widespread denatality and attacks on the family, the adherents to this movement were not afraid a “to give birth” (forgive me for the term) while the other Catholic families limited themselves to having one, when two children were fine, using artificial contraceptives in an absolutely normal way. This was their strong point, who made them well liked by John Paul II, who saw in them i “defenders” of the family and birth rate in crisis a little’ everywhere.
I reply to Andrea.
And already dear Andrea I think your examination is spot on. Maybe, maybe they all happen to me but the people of the “I walk” (who knows where they go?) which I know, they had many children yes, but with the result that almost always none of these children has approached the spiritual sphere and of any kind, instead they approached (and with excellent results) exclusively to the earthly sphere, to the distorted reality that surrounds us in the immanent, to that proposed and inculcated by the main media, to that way of life as it is suggested to us, we know we live bombarded by bad examples…
As far as I am concerned, in this sense the “Neocatechumenal Way” it has done very little, rather, perhaps it would have been better for a couple to have only one child to raise, because it would have been easier for them to get it right with fewer problems on their shoulders, less worries, their relationship as a couple would also improve, also with regard to the sexual sphere. And so if I could I would ask Pope John Paul II, if these really were rewarded here, so much even by having only one child, it's not like we would be extinct ? ???
where does your mother work…
My mother as a young man worked along the Via Casilina, then he made a lot of money and opened a house in a villa on the Appia Antica which he still manages at the tender age of 81 year old.
And yours, where he works?
how many years of walking it took you to articulate this profound consideration?
Evidently the first heat has hurt you, see to give you calm down.
ALE-CT la [CENSORED] most famous of Sicily!!!
I see that the haters are always the same captained by "ariel the charlatan".
Thanks for existing guys….you are a bit small but I love you anyway!!!
PS ariel……when you talk you sound like a flower on the radio….you're a myth!!!!
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Note from Father Ariel
About the insults directed at me, there are no problems, fate pure, but we do not intend to publish insults aimed at other people by subjects always and strictly anonymous
Praiseworthy father Ariel with whom one feels serenely in line. It is a personal consideration of course, from me who know so little of this path.
In a, two occasions, I occasionally found myself in the church in the middle of “colorful gestural communications”, animated by noisy instruments and disharmonies. Afterwards, I had the unfortunate curiosity to view a site that offered conferences of the two “Illuminati” founders of the path. I don't dwell on a comic scene of her clumsily removing the microphone from him, and vice versa, without the sudden reciprocal interventions bringing anything more valid to the so banal catechesis.
I don't even want to debase the nervous gesture that prompted kiko to nervously clasp her forehead and face in her two hands, which conveyed not a little uneasiness. On the other hand, I cannot refrain from expressing the profound disappointment for not having received messages of loving kindness and humility, such as to be comparable to those that come to us daily from Pope Francis; nor have I listened to words full of hope and joy comparable to those “of life” leave us from the mild, and grandiose at the same time, Chiara Lubich whom I was lucky enough to meet. I find it seedy, repugnant and disrespectful certain comments “regurgitated” to defend beliefs of faith and DIVINE MISSIONS that, with a very different mildness and verbal sweetness, they are expressed by Christ in the Gospel.
Important!!!
The first paragraph lacks the subject “Analysis” (commendable), inadvertently omitted in confirming my comment. I would like to clarify it as precisely your correct examination, father ariel, without false news, he solicited my consideration. Excuse me and thank you.
I am a neocatechumenal in the church that orders a charlatan OUTSIDE the church to go fuck himself….nothing strange
Nothing strange that years and years of walking have produced nothing but vulgar and miserable people. The comments in this article are a prime example.
I answer to “ss” (the two consonants, associate, already reveal a worthy profile) :
I have well understood the comment in which you are self-enclosing in my CHURCH ? The same CHURCH of that CHRIST who did not utter vulgarities similar to his executioners, not even mangled on the Cross? I want to express myself with the best part of me and affirm that, if more “the milder Kiko” read your trivialities, however, addressed to a priest, It would kick her out of the “straight way” . Instead, show yourself worthy of your repulsive note and BRING IT TO THE KNOWLEDGE of Pope Francis (could use one of the many social contacts ); it would be an admirable action, responsible and exemplary, to show that of the meek path you know how to show the worst spirituality. An action that La “would qualify” , Anyway, after throwing a stone anonymously and withdrawing his hand.
On the neocat I agree with you. However, he would be sorry that behind the rotten fruits of these possessed, the whole world of the laity would lose out.
True. Ma “laity” ≠ “movementism”. Personally I wish for a “return” to the world of parishes, without “parallel realities” inside the church. This doesn't just apply to neocats. The movements seem to me the triumph of pride.
Scusi? List the good fruits of your tree for me?? I have some difficulty finding them…
I also believe that the decree of the Supreme Pontiff, if it will be applied with the necessary energy, can be a very healthy measure. Perhaps it is time to make strong distinctions in the vast forest of ecclesial movements, where there is the good and the less good. After all, even the Humiliated to give a historical example, at a certain point they deviated from the main road and radical measures had to be taken.
I confess, after the vitriolic pages on the NC, that I would be curious to read about his analyzes also on other subjects of the movementist galaxy.
Dear Father Ariel I am very happy that you have written this article. I read the book, I bought his book in October 2020 Optimal. ? I am happy that you wrote this article because on Sunday I met some of my neocatechumen catechist relatives who feel so important but then never know, they never know anything about what happens in the Church, every time I let them know, that I inform them of something they say they didn't know, which they do not follow…
In short, all this makes me understand as if they had become autonomous, closed circles. MAh… In fact, they didn't even know about this decision of Pope Francis.? I told him that the Pope has decided to stop the unlimited mandates for those who govern the international associations of the faithful recognized or erected by the Apostolic See ( and therefore also Kiko Argüello, of which they have also bought many paintings, must pack) and subject to the direct supervision of the Dicastery for the Laity, the Family and Life. Bewildered!!! Boh… Thanks for the article don and I hope to see you on TV tomorrow night. ???
Mr John, As Don Di gualdo knows, the provisions of the Holy See ARE NOT VALID for the founders of lay assaults which CAN be extended for life as the Pope's intention after the resignation presented by Kiko after Carmen's death ( and even before these provisions) and rejected by the Pope.
Greetings to Don Di Gualdo may the Lord bless him.
If you are not informed, I will enlighten you that this news circulates and is widespread in Neocarechumenal circles:
«This decree does not affect us because Kiko is not a founder, but an initiator of a reality that comes directly from heaven, which the Pope knows very well. Through Our Lady God has chosen Kiko and no man can go against God's will. Kiko has not founded anything! We are not a movement! We are not a separate thing!»
There is a cartoon that summarizes this rumor immediately circulated in your rooms by the magacatechists:
https://youtu.be/OJxE7irtoMU
Themselves. Would want, I would like to point out that you, perhaps in the grip of a Freudian slip, he wrote “founders” of the “Lay AGGRESSIONS” instead of, as he probably meant, “lay aggregations”.
Here you see, unknowingly it has condensed one of the most painful points of the Way: the “assaults” (that is, behaviors deliberately contrary to the Christian spirit), operate yes “Lay” (that is people who, at least until today, they have no ministry to pontificate on their peers).
I suggest the idea that, even if the Argϋello is not replaced, there is Christian charity towards people by now at the turn of the journey of our life, from which nature is expected to carry out the removal in an acceptable time.
Not to wish anyone anything, but only to evaluate the objectivity of the facts.
Ariel: keep priests out of money….ps….don't forget to donate…
HA HA HAAA
FOOL
… the fool never imposed the payment of tithing on anyone, that was done by the initiators of your Neocatechumenal Way. And the higher was the tithe paid, fewer sins sought and saw the megacatechists in the course of the ballots, or so-called “public confessions”.
And God help her!