It is true that when you are born a lion, you cannot become an antelope, but in the face of the tragedy of impotence and uselessness, we must reflect that there is a time … there is a time … there is a time …
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Contrary to other comments, on the other hand, thank you very much for your comment on Vigano ’. In my opinion, his latest charges have been completely inappropriate, and the silence around them (apart from the approval on some sites as you pointed out) they had given me a bad feeling. Knowing his thought, father ariel, I was very inclined to believe that he would distance himself, as he finally did, in my opinion more’ that rightly. Vigano's statements’ among other things that lately were not even restricted to the theological / ecclesiastical world, but which went far beyond the scientific one, where you are not’ understood on the basis of what his skills can be expressed in this regard, and promote paranoia (on this too, in some respects he reminded me of his article in which he mentioned the curtain between Burioni and Cattelan). If we get angry when exponents of science are easily expressed in theological terms, can not be done’ then do the opposite. Thank you Father Ariel!
@Giuseppe: when opposed to the anticovid vaccine, Mgr. Viganò proves not only incompetent in medicine, but I also don't say incompetent, but certainly a little lacking in the field of Catholic morality, I am referring to his phrase that the vaccine, produced in some cases from abortive fetal cells, it is absolutely irreconcilable with Catholic morality. https://www.ilfriuliveneziagiulia.it/mons-carlo-maria-vigano-sui-vaccini-e-la-santa-sede/
But sorry don,
Ma….the comments on his videos send me here.
I wanted to comment on the phrases of Minutella and the various grotesque circus antibergogliano.
https://www.articolo21.org/2019/11/caso-orlandi-in-vaticano-non-giunse-nessuna-telefonata-la-sera-della-scomparsa-ecco-perche-il-racconto-di-monsignor-vigano-non-e-credibile/
Dear father Ariel, I share your thought. In this historical moment the temptation of many Christians (and I'll take it too) is to turn into angry mastiffs towards it “hierarchy” in disarray. Ma, apart from the fact that in this way spiritual serenity is lost, there is the risk of ultimately playing the game of the Enemy..
In practice, however, his advice, especially for families with the responsibility of passing on the Faith to their children, it is a kind of “Benedict option”? Look for holy priests or places of healthy Christian life (exemplary monasteries or convents) as a reference of spiritual life?
Dear Luigi,
what she calls “Benedict option”, more than an option, I think it's the only survival system, first of all for the faith and for what remains of our faithful.
I'll give you a concrete example: today I finally confessed, which I had not been able to do before Easter, for reasons known to all, then later, because I was far from the two confessors to whom I usually turn. In fact, I needed a confessor, which is increasingly rare today, since there is a huge difference, not only formal but really substantial, in a boredom “sender of sins” and a true confessor.
And a priest, in a particular way, needs a good confessor. Everyone, they need it, but we priests most of all, given that the care and assistance of souls falls on us.
I think I have illustrated in my way what you rightly call “Benedict option”.
Reverend Father Ariel, I would like to ask you two things:
1) What was the event that helped you understand that we have crossed the threshold of no return?
2) Given the free will of man, that God respects, it makes no sense to pray a dozen rosaries a day (how can I do) for the conversion of sinners? Unfortunately I note a widespread indifference (when I don't really hate) towards God among relatives, acquaintances and pupils (one thing that makes me particularly disgusted is to hear swearing even of the girls of 15 year old). One time, in the classroom, for scolding a pupil who had cursed, I was looked at with astonishment by the whole class and they asked me: “Prof, but she is a Christian?”.
Thank you for your attention and remember it in prayer.
Caro Filelleno,
more than one event in particular, it was a set of situations, of social transformations that began in the late sixties, in that 1968 that Mario Capanna defined in one of his books “Those years were formidable”; situations that between the late eighties and the early nineties reached a level of total degeneration.
If the guy you mentioned, instead of cursing he had issued an invective against gays and lesbians, the whole class would rise against him with motions of great indignation, why now, these authentic monsters, were raised between the reversal principle – the good that becomes bad and the bad that becomes good – and a politically correct nauseating.
So they can easily insult an 80-year-old on a bus in general indifference, like the lady who was forced to stand on a bus full of students, for having recalled a young man who occupied his place and with his feet the one in front, he heard himself answer “don't break my old shit balls”. But, that same young man, he would never have dared to say, for example to an African, “don't break my shitty balls”, first, because it is politically incorrect and everyone would have risen instantly, second why, the African, she would tone him down, and he would have done very well to do it.
This, it is the threshold of no return.
Dear Father Ariel,
I believe that Msgr. Viganò simply is one who does not resign himself to the idea that the Church has already jumped from the plane without a parachute, if it is expressed so harshly it is because, According to him, the fatal jump can still be stopped. He will be right? I do not know, I am pessimistic, unless at this moment unpredictable events, the slope currently taken will be traveled to the end. Personally I feel I belong to the Church because I am baptized but I am ashamed of this church. If the Baptism were comparable to a membership card I would have already returned it 6 years ago when I realized what type the party secretary is. Believe me, father ariel, it is a drama for a faithful not to trust the pope and to feel annoyed every time he mumbles something. The thing I can't handle is the Pachamama affair with those “Catholic religious” prostrate in the Vatican gardens and the subsequent procession in S. Pietro. But these people still have a modicum of faith in Jesus Christ? For years now, this church has no longer been financially subsidized in disarray, I would feel complicit in his bad operation. I am sorry for many good priests who still exist but a simple faithful must send a signal, or not? One last observation: we try to avoid a formal schism, but in fact it is already there, at least so it seems to me.
Father Ariel Estimated,
The question is : Archbishop Viganò has told the truth, Yes or no? And if he told the truth, because the Pope, vicar on earth of Truth itself, should fear it? Why later 2 years in which any doubt about certain accusations could have been annihilated by burying the former nuncio under tons of evidence, nothing happened?
We are not all exalted gospari, are (also) faithful stragglers, who seek words of Truth and Eternal Life, where they think they can find them.
That is to say to churchmen who, like her, “if I really have to(no) taking the risk of making mistakes prefer to do it to oppose what is objectively bad, certainly not by omitting to decide and take positions for one's own peaceful and quiet life.”
father ariel,
For once, I don't agree with you. The most warned faithful have long understood that today's pontificate is damaging to the Church. Propagating a false concept of mercy, the Holy Father provokes, both in those who have faith and in those who do not have faith, the belief that they are justified regardless of the acts they perform. A poisonous conviction is spreading outside and inside the Chisa that has already taken the form of a claim: God must save me as I am. Jesus' many appeals and warnings to conversion are a dead letter in the current pontificate. On the contrary, worse: the only conversions we are talking about are ecological and that of the feeling of welcoming pro migrants. Far from being a worthy successor to Peter, the Holy Father favors the perdition of millions of faithful.
We know how obstinately he has ignored any appeal made to him by cardinals and theologians. He mocked it by continuing in the demolition of the Church that certainly someone other than God ordered him.
This being the picture, I believe the emergence of a visible criticism is essential. It would take many Viganò, one in each parish. In my opinion, every priest should pray for the conversion of the Holy Father and at the same time openly inform the faithful on the errors spread by the Holy Father. It would not be going against Pietro, but a way to contain the damage.
I believe that God inflicted Pope Francis on us to make us understand the horror of a world without him. Retribution and warning widely…
Good morning Father Ariel, I can only prove esteem for whom, priest or layman, manages to remain firm in faith despite the tragic situation of the present situation. I have now lost faith. I have become one of those whom the Supreme Pontiff has ironically defined “nonbelievers practitioners”.
I don't know what will become of me but I know that I can no longer believe in the indefectibility of the Church or that God cares about his destiny.
Dear Emanuele,
I never thought I should say it: I feel instead a believer but not a practitioner. But not as it was many years ago, when many claimed to believe in Jesus Christ, but not in the Church.
Now these followers of a very human and merciful Jesus crowd parishes and festive functions (or at least they did it before the covid) that I started to desert when I had the distinct sensation of finding myself, more than in the presence of God the Trinity, in a cheerful picnic with a final Eucharistic snack. ….
I already hear Father Ariel thunder to my theological ignorance and liturgical arrogance.
Alas.
I will end my earthly existence among the followers of Monsignor Lefebvre.
I cannot forget the answers of the Catechism of Pius X:
Who is God? God is the Most Perfect Being, creator and lord of heaven and earth.
Because it created us ? God created us to serve him, pray to Him and worship Him in this life , to then be called to enjoy Heaven.
Maybe they are not the exact words. But the concept has remained, after I studied them by heart sixty years ago.
cara antonella,
things are two: or she overestimates me, or she underestimates me, in fact I have nothing to complain about, much less "theological ignorance and liturgical arrogance".
You illustrated, with his clear and precise words, what are our sensational pastoral failures, to which if you want I will add the worst element: arrogance, or rather the clerical pride of whom, for hardness of heart and above all for ideology, does not have humility, not even before the evidence, to wonder: “… is that perhaps, in something, or more, we were wrong?”.
Just take all the latest documents from the Italian Episcopal Conference, not to mention that unclean one bad news to which it is reduced L'Avvenire in its new role as the fifth column of the international Left: poor and migrants … migrants and poor …
I did not become a priest to be a social worker and socio-political scientist but to cure, teach, administer the sacraments of grace and save souls. Whether it's the soul of a poor migrant or the soul of a poor Italian who travels with a Ferrari for half a million euros, I don't care, even because, of poverty, I have a spiritual and evangelical concept, not ideological, non-socio-Marxist. And often, the one with the Ferrari for half a million euros, he is poorer than the migrant. Wanting with a difference of no small importance: when the poor man with Ferrari for half a million euros really gets converted, is able to donate millions of euros to create an institution for the assistance of disabled children or abandoned elderly people, unlike the poor Muslim migrant, who complains instead that the sound of the bells of the nearby church traumatizes his wife and frightens his children.
You have therefore simply expressed what many of our faithful think that have emptied the churches, in indifference – to the test – of our bishops who perhaps will understand this bad mood of Catholics only the day they do, the Catholics themselves, they will begin to leave them with empty coffers and precipitate the Italian Church into a serious economic crisis.
There are always holy bishops and holy priests, always less, but they exist and, as I often repeat, they will always exist. Look for those and put yourself under their guidance, on everything else spread a pitiful veil. At the moment we can not do anything against this totally degenerated system and plunged into an irreversible crisis and decay, a fortiori, at the right moment, God's judgment on these people will be terrible.
From the Book of the Prophet Jeremiah: 23, 1-4
«”Woe to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the flock of my pasture”, says the Eternal.
Therefore thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, against the shepherds who graze my people: “You have scattered my flock, you chased them away and did not take care of them; there, I will punish you for the wickedness of your actions”, says the Eternal.
“But I will gather the rest of my sheep from all the countries where I scattered them and bring them back to their pastures, and they will be fruitful and multiply; I will build pastors on them who will pasture them, and they will no longer be afraid or afraid; not even one will be missing”, says the Lord ".
And with this I think everything is said.
Dear father Ariel,
Thank you for your reply. We too scattered sheep desire pastors who speak of God and administer sacraments. Luckily we have known about them in the past, and we will continue to search for them.
With sympathy I allow myself to tell her that my name is Ornella. But you are not the first to make this merger between my surname and name. Practically all the colleagues called me Antonella….. ????
Good evening everybody.
The silence of the Lord was not silence. And lukewarmness (or mediocrity) it is not a Christian virtue. Much less is it to set a bad example by believing oneself authorized by the role you play.
well, to herald the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary was Mary herself in Fatima.
So I would say to change the subject. Years ago I met some Salesian priests: one had founded a lay movement, the other, young, succeeded him in the university chair, he was talking about me and making fun of me from behind because I disliked him because he was more serious and more cultured than he was (he did not know Greek or the year of canonization of Don Bosco, p. it is.). When, after many sad adventures, I protested to the first, pointing out to him like him, in addition to promoting this type of mediocre priests, he frequented frightened priests like a certain left-wing extremist Girardi, the angry reply was: “And you who care?”. So, priests like them feel entitled to sentence on the lives of others but do not tolerate someone to pronounce on their.
Then there is such a Roman monsignor, I use to speak ill of everyone he knows, especially if not leftist or modernist, in a clearly compulsive and neurotic way, while he spoke well of immigrants who, if they kill someone, they do it according to him out of hunger. I pointed out the contradiction and stuffed myself. But they gave him the title of monsignor, as they gave him a university chair at the Gregorian and a place in the Vatican.
Conclusions: 1. genuine priests suffer as serious lay people suffer; 2. if you have to speak frankly, it must always be done. Viganò has noticed some big contradictions: explain to her, instead of taking it out on him as a character (puppet topic). The silence of the Lord does not…
«well, to herald the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary was Mary herself in Fatima.»
She did not read what I wrote and if she read it she decided to misunderstand what I clearly expressed, so I repeat myself:
the “mystery” the “decisive triumph of the immaculate heart of Mary”, it is a dogma of faith? E’ an element inserted in the deposit of the Catholic faith? Believers, they must lend to this an adhesion of faith? In the Creed, perhaps we profess to believe in “triumph of the immaculate heart of Mary” or in the triumph of the glorious Christ who will return to glory … ?
I am sorry that you did not understand, or wanted to understand, these elements so elementary.