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Dear Father Ariel, thank you for this article which unfortunately I read very late.
I confess that, while knowing his criticisms of the Neocatechumenal Way, I'm surprised you mentioned it in this case, knowing full well that everything can be said about the path unless it is traditionalist , fond of the Council of Trent and nostalgic for the times when women were forced to silence. I can assure you that people who entered the journey with a Marian hyper-devotion and an anomalous passion for visionaries and apparitions after a few years have very much concentrated their attention on Christ and the Gospels. But it does not matter.
The theme you denounce is clear, and me attending a few blogs “self-styled” Catholics I detect it every day. Frequently one finds those who quote this or that seer or these or those words of a distant pope, but he does not know well either the gospel or the letters of the apostles.
On the contrary…quote the gospel and the letters (as she did in a comment) seems to be a crime. Much better to quote the words of this or that seer , with such millimeter precision that evidently the seer himself recorded it on digital support while he heard them from the mouth of the Madonna or some angel.
I don't know if he will read this comment, but I would like to ask you a question : Why the same sites and blogs and commentators that begin and end the history of Catholicism with the Council of Trent, they are also deniers on covid and supporters of the danger of vaccines ? That Christ gets us right with Vaccini ? Thank you
This is a joke ? The worst Catholics I've seen are all modernist ! Sorry but in the canons of the Council of Trent we do not find the errors that can be found in the Second Vatican Council and elsewhere if such errors had been found in the Council of Trent never the Supreme Pontiffs of the time did. would have ratified ! Dearest abbot, even I who have a great love for the Pope cannot not be disturbed by his words and actions as being the antipodes of those we must expect from the Pope. Unfortunately the rectification which was made by Dominus Iesu to one of the worst errors of the Council, is for many a zero rectification ! For what ? Because the Conciliar text was not changed to him and so when we read Nostra Ætate and so on, The ambiguities are still there and even I doubt that even many bishops today have read the Council. You cannot fault the “pious women” and I regret it believe me to reject for a large part of them the Holy Mass offered in its Ordinary Form, after seeing all the liturgical abuse, very bad translation, the overturning of altars and all operated by priests ! You realize what the Catholics had to go through ? and the worst thing is that the Bishops guardian of the Liturgy in their Diocese have never correctly implemented the Council and even less celebrated the Holy Mass correctly. Say, where can I find the OF applied correctly ? In France there is the Saint Martin Community and…
and now? READING AND ACCOUNTING
God help us
well, so what do we do now with readers and acolytes of fresh pontifical authorization? 🙂
However, I would like to say that this type of personage who rightly annoys Don Ariel and his brothers emerges because no one now cares about teaching sound doctrine and instead is limited to inciting a pseudosocial activism based on baby food for immigrants and pats on the back. and winks at bullies, sodomites and various sinistors. While in the so-called Institutes of religious sciences and in the grotesque pontifical universities they often say nonsense or authentic heresies.
Furthermore, I do not agree with the attacks in Medjugorje and I would not say that the Church has not approved Emmerich's revelations: he simply did not pass judgment on them. They are not the Word of God but they are not to be thrown away. One p. is. he may not even venerate a certain saint, but this does not prevent him from being holy.
Apart from that, I agree with the condemnation of pseudo-traditionalists and to conclude with irony I ask Don Ariel: what if these things are going to tell her, that I know, to Pellicciari, to Siccardi, to the assorted Plinians, to the Lefebvrians…? 🙂 O a Socci? When will he try? 🙂 I did.
Stating the following, she is joking, vero?
“I wouldn't say the Church didn't approve of Emmerich's revelations: he simply did not pass judgment on them "
Because: or she jokes, or she speaks out of turn with an almost total lack of knowledge on the subject. Therefore I proceed to update it:
«The blessed (Anna Katharina Emmerick, 1774-1824) he left us only three letters for sure. The other writings, which are erroneously attributed to it, have different origins: the "visions" of the Passion of Christ were noted, reworked with great freedom and without any control, by the German writer Clemens Brentano (1778-1842) and were published in 1833 with the title: "The bitter passion of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ". Therefore, the works in question cannot be considered either written or dictated by Emmerick and not even authentic transcriptions of her statements and narratives, but a literary work by Brentano and with such extensions and manipulations that it is impossible to establish which is the real core that can be attributed to the blessed. It follows that the writings in question are not the true mirror of the Augustinian nun's thought and mystical experiences.. The individual statements, both those who express a healthy religiosity, and those that present quirks and anti-Semitic sentiments, arose from the creativity and artistic imagination of Brentano "
Cardinal Jose Saraiva Martins
Prefect of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints
The Osservatore Romano, edition of 7/10/2004.
to your question:
«To conclude with irony, I ask Don Ariel: what if these things are going to tell her, that I know, to Pellicciari, to Siccardi, to the assorted Plinians, to the Lefebvrians ...? ? O a Socci? When will he try? ? I did it".
I answer: I did it before her, very seriously:
https://isoladipatmos.com/stage/non-e-francesco-antonio-socci-svela-al-mondo-che-il-regnante-pontefice-e-un-papocchio-ariel-s-levi-di-gualdo-replica-con-un-breve-saggio-sul-papato-contemporaneo/
and in a very ironic way:
https://isoladipatmos.com/stage/voci-miagolose-del-cinema-erotico-anni-settanta-presunte-eresie-papali-sulla-comunione-ai-divorziati-risposati-la-sabauda-cristina-siccardi-il-vaticanista-andrea-tornielli-alla-gogna-e-altre-va/
Dear don Ariel,
as a child I was thrown out by a catechist; then I ran away from another because fortunately the bishop had decided to bring forward confirmation by a few months. To my parish priest (not a great preacher or theologian, but he taught me a lot) I am still fond of it after so many years that he died.
After the catechists, however, I met the laity “catechists”, great professors who pontificate on TV, who distrusted me because (unlike their producing pamphlets) I really study: genia in itself much worse than the catechists, because more presumptuous and (in his own way) ignorant, but fortunately nobody understands, except for some intellectuals who know nothing of Christianity and take them as colleagues (maybe they are). Believe me, presumption, ignorance and contempt also lurk in these catechists, and from above their nonsense seeps down through generations of priests (precisely those who will then teach in seminaries and ecclesiastical universities), bishops and lay people inserted in state academies according to Italic customs..
Just today, scrolling through the print, I found that, not content with catechizing pope and bishops, they also want to teach Islam! https://lanuovabq.it/it/paghiamo-anche-gli-islamologi-il-lauto-ristoro-alla-scuola-di-bologna
Who knows if the imams will bear them with patience like Catholic priests.
d.E.
Thank you Father Ariel. Unfortunately, the lack of humility and the repudiation of competence are among the worst cancers in our society. All that you have described now happens in all fields. Just think of the antivaccinists, convinced they understand everything about epidemiology after a video tutorial on youtube, that fill social networks with hallucinatory comments. Now any “opinion”, however phony and unfounded, has the right of citizenship and is as valid as any other opinion formulated by experts in the sector. If the vast majority of experts in a certain field of knowledge agree on a certain assessment, shouts the “unique thought” o al “mainstream”. We are prey to a collective delirium, of conspiracy theories, based on the abandonment of the principle of reality and rationality, which will be very difficult to eradicate. The most amazing fact is that unfortunately this irrational attitude seems to be more present in percentage among Catholics than among the general population., and that should ask us what ( and how) it has been transmitted to the faithful in recent years. I am afraid that millennial theories, the thought “magical”, have also taken hold following many alleged private revelations, whose diffusion has been largely underestimated by the Church. Now mention any of these “locutions” private has become the Word of God as much as the Gospel. How will we get out of it?
I agree with you Cristina . I am thrilled to see that conspiracies of all kinds take root among Catholics , and I always wonder (as she) where does all this come from and what does Jesus Christ have to do with whether the vaccine is effective or not or whether that certain cure is useful. Maybe as you say and’ the social and psychological effect of the various Medjugories has been guilty for too long .
Caro father. There is also another factor in my opinion that you have often mentioned. I can assure you this “female psychology”, to simplify, it is also present in many priests who have more or less evident problems of sexual identity, and such priests love to surround themselves with bizarre devotionists with whom they can organize processions and rosaries of reparation to the Heart of Mary as much as possible. The progressive “svirilizzazione” of the clergy caused women to start ruling in parishes. It is not an accusation against the priests, I simply collect a fact that you have documented. Find a manly priest today, man, who knows how to be a father, and who knows how to put “each in their own place” it's a three to eight. I speak from personal and direct experience unfortunately. On the contrary, in some parishes it seems almost convenient to leave the command to the laity and in particular to the laity. This is often the situation. Lay women doing everything and tired priests, sad, sleepy, who for a quiet life let everything run. In my parish (run by religious) there are even opposite cases. Lay women who insistently ask priests to be priests. To make decisions. To coordinate the community. To give directions. Not to leave everything in the hands of four parishioners. But nothing to do. I hope I have been clear but I think you can understand what I am saying.
illustrious padre Ariel
this article is nothing but the plastic representation of the crisis of the Catholic Church and these “apprentices sorcerers and pious women ” they are but a consequence of the state of confusion that reigns supreme
Beautiful article Father Ariel. It makes me think of a very short episode last night in which I made a brief speech on a social network simply stating the falsity of the events of Garabandal, knowing the whole story, the events that took place, ecstatic marches back and forth through the village, even in the middle of the night… all the work of the Holy Virgin, obviously.. , Conchita's prophecies turned out to be false etc.….negative judgment of the Church; in response I received a mocking applause with bloodshot eyes from the "blog president" e,with a sarcastic tone, the title "we have a new theologian!"Then follows" dear Andrea this is your personal opinion "… as if to discern the true from the false it is necessary to be theologian, instead, it is enough to inform yourself well about the events, set in motion the little brain and enlightened by the teachings of the Gospel to know how to discern the true from the false, they follow the advice of priests and theologians , then the definitive judgment of the Church which must be followed and accepted. As you well stated, better to close definitively with this kind of improvised theological masters who continue to meander on Facebook and YouTube who give lessons to everyone, Lay, priests, bishops, cardinals….As soon as you throw the fuse they attack you and show their true nature. They are whitened sepulchers.
May God bless her
Praised be Jesus Christ
hello illustrious father ARIEL
report a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=any_acQErdk I would like your authoritative opinion I ask you is “normal”pray with Muslims who kill Christians and Jews who don't believe in Jesus Christ ,Thank you
Thank you very much Father Ariel. I have the great grace of living with my parents, I try to remain faithful to the faith of my grandparents with the consistency of a whole life. Respect for the Holy Father and all the priestly order, Holy Rosary, Holy Mass. I have grandma's Latin missal and to find it I decided to follow the Mass in the ancient rite without ever neglecting the Italian. It was beautiful, knowing Latin I understood readings and the Gospel. For me it was a great opportunity for unity for all Christians. I don't tell epilogue because it still hurts me to remember. Thank you for inviting us to prayerful silence and to remind us of the absolute value of sweeping and washing the Lord's temple for free, considered an immense honor by all the women in my family. Thank you
But he is not a pilgrim, rather, the fact that in vaccines there are cells from aborted babies. I am sorry, but the end never justifies the means. Thanks for the exchange!
Nothing to complain and the quote (Mt 7, 6) fits perfectly.
I add that the have mercy that rages in that of Rome will only serve to do incalculable damage .
A couple of personal thoughts:
It would take courageous prelates like those who excommunicated the Templars in 1312, aware of their power and responsible for their actions and not subject to public opinion and the media.
Today heretics live peacefully and the saints are excommunicated.
Former Theodore McCarrick remained a cardinal for years at risk (maybe remote) to become pope before he was exposed and was ousted albeit reluctantly, leaving out, however, those infected with his disease that in decades of activity who knows how many will be.
Some sites on the internet are also changing their skin in a negative sense. A few years ago I could still read and speak on ” church and post council” It has now become a den of sectarians. Mic is unrecognizable! What do you think? thank you
I too had the same experience. Until a few years ago, I read and followed blogs of Vaticanists with great interest “countercurrent”, Catholic information sites, history professors “counter-revolutionaries” and medievalists. We are certainly not talking about pro-life associations. Then I woke up, also thanks to the flagrant hoaxes and the annoying winks at various conspiracy theories on covid and company that ran on these sites. I am sorry, also because some of these people were very good e (apparently) prepared in their field, but with certain positions they do more harm than good to evangelization.
To say, they managed to leave me such a disappointment that I have now become a firm supporter of the need to make serious policies to contrast fake news and conspiracy theories, even if we miss some “censorship” too much.
To be silent, he p. Ariel more than opportunely reminds us laymen of a duty as sacrosanct as it is unspoken: respect, the benevolence and in certain matters the dutiful obedience due to priests. However limited or humanly disappointing they may be at times, it is through them that we have the sacraments and the preaching of the Gospel. The care of souls belongs to the priests in communion with the successor bishops of the apostles, certainly not to catechists / animators / scout leaders and more or less sensational lay people. Instead it seems to have returned to the excesses of certain heretical movements of the late Middle Ages.
There is also another group of faithful, also made up of a clear female prevalence, which shuns dogmatics and theology in general, but it claims the right / duty to reinterpret morality in the light of the "pastoralism" of CVII.
Examples are found crowded around progressive priests, anxious to listen to homilies filled with good feelings, Fashionable "mercy" and altruism. A figure of such a team is the revival of evangelical teaching in the light of the renewal imprinted by CVII and accelerated by the current pontificate, all gossip and reformism.
Last summer, during a holiday in Cesenatico, I have absorbed the amenities of such faithful and pastorally updated priests. Free from work, I participated in the S. Mass every day e, although I'm not a biblical scholar, I have noticed real and proper mistreatment of the Word of God aimed at conforming it to the new course; forcing and twisting of the Gospel message that would have been evident even to an atheist with minimal ability to understand the text.
In other cities, too, I found similar upgrades: all-round innovations that I would define in real time and Covid compliant, until you reach the high levels of disheartening irony of "exchange a look of peace": an exhortation that encourages the participants to give each other complacent glances, winks and masked smiles, in compliance with the socially permitted meter of distance.
reverend father, I ask her how we can defend ourselves from such distortions that are rampant in ours…
My grandmother, who had been educated in the pre-conciliar style, he had respect and veneration for priests, even with those despised who had faults on them. Remembrance of a priest punished and expelled from several parishes “important” and beaten to say mass in the remote mountain villages. My grandmother was badly addressed, but she did not give up: he prepared the church, welcomed the priest, he prepared him something to eat and went to call e “bother” the people locked up in their homes to participate in mass. It was certainly a pain in the ass, but it wasn't superb. She knew more than the aforementioned many pious women. He prayed a lot, he also read, although he could not study beyond the fifth grade as he came from a peasant family. However, he maintained an attitude of humility. This is a problem of our times that I too, as a teacher, I had to face. Rather than spending money, time and effort to study to graduate, specialization courses and so on, it would have been enough for me to be instructed by my parents.
Beautiful Article Father Ariel, thank you. Read carefully, but I'll have to read it again calmly.
Of course when he acts “… It is what we have been studying for a lifetime, after being disciples of masters who have passed on to us not only a formation, but above all a study method ..” it makes one think a lot when there are priests (I don't want to mention names, but these are very much exposed figures on TV) which they have certainly studied, but they convey a message that is anything but in line with the insights she makes, Father expensive Ariel.
We faithful do not remain , as in any family, to see the glass half full in each one and to move forward with a spirit of fraternal communion in the Church.
92 minutes of applause!!!
From applause. I laughed and cried together. It is not necessary to arrive at the Council of Trent; my old parish priest would not have allowed anyone to cross the balustrade and do ” the ready”.
Even though it was August and we were dying of heat, socks and long sleeves.
Thank you Father Ariel
Generally and outside of today's theme, I remind you dear p. Ariel that if "insult is not a right and receiving insults is neither a duty nor a bond of Christian charity"…also applies to her .. albeit a cultured presbyter .. refined theologian .. etc.. etc.
By now his long and cultured "homilies" increasingly self-celebratory and opinionated are full of insults and we reach the end of the reading by remembering practically only those.
Too bad… because she is really smart, brilliant and very prepared; qualities with which he certainly attracted his audience of admirers including me.
Among these qualities there is evidently neither humility nor charity (it would be too much) but for some time now it has really been going further…
I remember the refined with nostalgia,brilliant, blunt and pungent articles ( that with pleasure I spread) through which I met her 2/3 Years ago.
Readings that enriched by leaving teachings and pleasure through his thought…now there remains a bitter sense of aggression away from those old readings.
God bless her.
Praised be Jesus Christ
Silvy
She evidently never had anything to do with it, both as a confessor and as a spiritual director, with priests aged ten years in a year only by certain unmanageable faithful without blemish and without sin.
You know why confessionals are empty? Because more and more are the “Catholics” convinced that the only ones to sin are the bishops and priests, of which subjects like her rise to supreme judges and beaters.
Perhaps you have never had anything to do with 60-year-old priests, with thirty years and more of devoted ministry behind him, weeping in front of the bishop to whom they declared disconsolate that they no longer knew how to manage catechists, “animators” various parish priests and pious women who felt they were popes, empresses and queens.
Because my article is about this.
Since he makes me a very serious accusation, namely that of "publishing self-celebrating homilies full of insults", you have a moral duty to provide a complete and detailed list of these insults attributed to me in your unfortunate public comment.
List them all, from first to last.
If not able to list them, because in fact I don't insult anyone, then stop talking inappropriately and rather try to apply the holy admonition of the Blessed Apostle Paul:
"I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man; rather it be in silence " [The Tm 2, 12]
"As in all churches of the saints, the women keep silent in the assemblies because it is not allowed to speak; but should be subordinate, as the law also says. If they want to learn something, question their husbands at home, it is improper for a woman to speak in church " [The Cor 14, 34-35].
And now you can blame the insulting being of the Blessed Apostle Paul, while I am waiting for you to send the list of insults that in your opinion I would have addressed in my "self-celebrating insulting homilies"
I confess that I have not read the whole article. Unfortunately I'm out of practice, I can't follow arguments that go on, even if the examples proposed are quite “tasty”. But since in this answer you provide a concise summary:
“Perhaps you have never had anything to do with 60-year-old priests, with thirty years and more of devoted ministry behind him, weeping in front of the bishop to whom they declared disconsolate that they no longer knew how to manage catechists, Parish “animators” and various pious women who felt they were popes, empresses and queens.
Because my article is about this.”
I allow myself a timid observation. Having been born in the middle of the last century, I met the pre-conciliar Church as a child, when the parishes were not yet communities of the faithful. The Catechesis was called Doctrine and was given by the parish priest or chaplain, who evidently had time to do so, not having to manage a plethora of meetings, meetings, pastoral activities of various kinds. Not everything was beautiful: the sermons were boring , repetitive, they spoke of Madonnas and hell and mortal sins….. I don't think I have understood much of the Doctrine, I was nine and I especially appreciated the fact that there was a nice party all to myself….. however I believe that what little faith I jealously preserve comes from that little seed sown in due time by the words of Don Armando Berna and his chaplain Don Giuseppe.
Sig.ra Silvy,
she is able to understand suffering, the disappointments and betrayals experienced by us priests because of not a few faithful, after years and years of ministry, to the same extent that a rhinoceros can move without harm in a crystal factory, except to feel and therefore present itself as a dragonfly.
Dear p. Ariel, you really outdid yourself when you write that S. Thomas Aquinas would now be categorized in the ranks of “ultra-progressive”, practically in the company of the various card. Kasper, Danneels, Martini… I've heard a lot of nonsense in my life but this one beats them all with great detachment!
You do not know Saint Thomas Aquinas and are less able than ever to place him in his historical-philosophical-theological context of the thirteenth century. This is demonstrated by the fact that, like all professional donkeys, she does not find anything better to do than to call those who know Aquinas well and thoroughly as stupid.