Conservation and progress

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STORAGE AND PROGRESS

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To resolve the current intra-ecclesial conflict between modernists and Lefebvre have to give each other these two essential factors of the ecclesial dynamism: preservation and progress.

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Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p.

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Rereading some texts of the morning meditations the Holy Father in the chapel of Domus Sanctae Martha, the 31 October 2017 - as reported the columnist de The Osservatore Romano the 1 next November -, Pope asks, against the other: The Christians' really believe in the Holy Spirit "that is in them? And have the courage to "sow the seeds", to get involved, or take refuge in a "pastoral conservation ', that does not leave that "the Kingdom of God will grow"? And he answers: "So many times we see that you prefer a pastoral preservation" rather than "let the United grow".

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We would like some comments. It must be distinguished from conservation conservatism. Keep diligently and, jealously and the sacred deposit of divine Revelation, no compromises, without adding and without taking [cf Gal 3,15; AP 22,19] and be faithful to the cost of living is the absolute duty of every Catholic, in the first place the bishops and the Pope.

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conservatism, instead, which probably alludes to the Pope, It is a foolish and useless conservation. It is the store that is no longer needed, It is the cling or nearsightedness or laziness or fear or interest in ideas, costumes, mores, habits, traditions outdated or abandoned by the Church, is the exchange just progress for modernism, get stuck on a historic day phase of the Church's journey towards the Kingdom, is close the eye of the fields are already white for harvest " [GV 4,35]; is close ear to the voice of the Spirit, who "renews the face of the earth", that "renew our minds" [RM 12,2] and day by day renews our inner man [cf. II Cor 4,16]. The Holy Spirit urges the Church to ensure progress, but in the sense indicated by these words of the Lord, He serves to remind us [GV 14,26]and then encourage us to make money.

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Granted - I want to believe - the Pope to speak of conservatism and not of legitimate conservation, does not seem to correspond to truth, It seems like Pope Francis wants to insinuate, that there is a wide spread of conservatism, that nevertheless exists in Lefebvrians; but what now afflicts more and disturbs the Church have a much wider spread of modernism or a false progress and or a false interpretation of the renewal promoted by the Council. And these evils the Pope never speaks, all it is taken from exaggerated and biased polemic against traditionalism, which he is likely to make a bundle of all herbs, Also blaming that healthy conservatism that, along with a healthy conservation, are essential factors of the structure and progress of the Church.

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If Francis wants to be a reformer of the Holy See So begin with the ward or false stop those employees who are infected with Modernism and rahnerismo, and take very loyal employees and loyal to the papal Magisterium and enemies not only of lefebvrismo, but also of modernism, both open while the good sides of one and the other.

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However, there is a certain stubborn, short-sighted and presumptuous conservatism that, under the pretext of fidelity to Sacred Tradition, accused the Popes after the Council to disown, and he would like to return to the doctrinal climate and pre-conciliar pastoral, as if Vatican II did not take place, forgetting that, When a council makes a doctrinal progress, as is almost always the case, the church, more enlightened by the Gospel and overcome certain mistakes, On the infallibility of his doctrine, never comes back, while it may happen that a new Council corrects a defective pastoral practice initiated by a preceding Council, or restore or recover certain pastoral practices abandoned by that Council, because of this plan, for the changing historical contingencies or the fallibility of the churchmen themselves, it may mutate or wrong and therefore can be corrected, after experiencing the adverse effects caused by the error.

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Thus the Council, going to meet a need of the time in which it was celebrated, He insists on the pastoral renewal and gives about many directives, that touch all aspects of church life. But after fifty years of application of these directives, many observers and impartial pastors and lovers of the Church we have conducted for years now to make clear the fact that the pastoral reconcile, for some aspects, It needs a course correction, that perhaps only a new council or a great reformer Pope will implement.

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This in no way means that we should go back in toto to the pre-council pastoral, it means keeping the pastoral achievements of the post-council - for example a healthy ecumenism and interreligious dialogue -, purifying them from certain buonistici excesses and too optimistic towards the modern world, so that today, for lack of vigilance of the bishops, we see an impressive return of modernism, much worse and more insidious than that of St. Pius X times, even because, while this had taken root only in the lower clergy and among theologians and exegetes, that infects the same body Bishops especially in Smart thin to form the rahnerismo.

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All good Catholics, faithful and shepherds, You have now realized this enormous scam, except, I wonder why, the same modernist, which either fall from the clouds, or pretend they do not know or are deaf to appeals and warnings or contemptuously ignore the charges against them or reject them or disdained, poor slandered victims, from superfine hypocrites, persecute the courageous few who discover their plots.

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The great pastoral problem today, It is no longer what it was imposed fifty years ago, as he commanded the Council, to abandon a pastoral too conservative, anachronistic, static, repetitive, too defensive, suspicious, fearful, suspicious and aggressive towards the modern world, indeed poorly known and sometimes misunderstood, for a renewed approach to benign modernity, open, fair, healthily critical, certainly prudent as the serpent, but also simple as the dove, knowing that the world reserves pitfalls, but also that the world created by God offers several values ​​to be recognized, to save, and to lead to Christ.

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On the path of renewal, of becoming, of change, the rejuvenation, development and progress has insisted, and it has gone very far in the past fifty years, and certainly true progress never end; but it has not always advanced in the right way, and more than advance, in many cases, You are deflected or one has strayed from the right path and fidelity to the real teachings of the Council; There is not always a moved with the necessary resourcefulness, moderation, caution and wisdom, in obedience to the guide of the Pontiffs or the doctrine of Catechism of the Catholic Church, indeed often falling into modernism Network, which it is a misleading approach to modernity, in which it is necessary to distinguish the wheat from the chaff, and instead the modernists have confused with one another.

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What then today we must above all do to promote healthy, effective and balanced ministry, It suits this need of the hour, different and in some respects opposed to the historical situation, he had to face and solve the council, It is not so reproach conservatism, although then it may still exist, but it is that the Pope decides, finally, with boldness and courage, heedless of any quacking of modernists, to denounce the rampant modernism, far more dangerous and harmful than lefebvrismo or conservatism, considering the extensive damage that modernism has done in recent 50 year old. and he is making, under the pretext of conciliar renewal, in the Church and in society. And here I note that since 1966 Maritain denounced the danger of modernism. It is not that Maritain was precisely a conservative. We should not insist unilaterally on developing leaving quietly preserving the deposit of faith. It is the opposite that needs to be done, after fifty years of progressive rhetoric, who ended up degenerating into partisan polemics against modernism and preservation.

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The real future of the Church and of humanity

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It must plant it once and for all with a relativism and historicism of Hegel's origin, reported several times by Pope Benedict XVI in the wake of the conviction modernist evolutionism made by St. Pius X. Becoming supposed to be. Its only makes sense in relation to the Absolute, and the story has an end only in the Lord report. Instead, we must find the principles and the absolute values ​​of reason and faith, now largely forgotten, neglected, misunderstood, incompression, e skin disprezzat, among the very people who should keep them and insegnarceli, including bishops. Values ​​that instead have always been taught and always will be taught for the salvation of mankind, by sound philosophy, as rational, and from the Church, as values ​​of faith. We must know for sure what these values ​​of reason and of faith, We need to know why are these and not others, It is necessary to distinguish them from the subjective views and deciduous. We must distinguish dogmatism and fundamentalism by the certainty of faith and rational certainty.

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We should be able to distinguish the immutable values, immortal and incorruptible from those that mutate and become corrupt. Necessary to distinguish the immutable truth and supra-temporal and temporal those mutable, what is true today, it is true always and will always be true - philosophical truths, moral theological - what is true today and will be tomorrow under certain conditions or historical or legal institutions or political or ecclesial realities.

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It is with reason and faith that we know what is right and what is faith. At this point we do not underfoot quicksand, but the rock on which to build the house, the firm ground on which to rest and walk. We know what are the values ​​that will never fail. We know what is the meaning of existence and of life. We know who we are, where we come from and where we can, we want and need to go. We know that God exists. We know who to trust. We know why the good and evil. We know that there is no middle way between yes and no. We know our vocation and our duty. We see our eternal destiny and we can pursue it with hope, perseverance and courage, knowing they will not be disappointed. We know that we can do it. We know what are the values ​​and goods, for which it is worth sacrificing our lives, we know what are the values ​​on which we can not give in, even at the cost of living. We know what is martyrdom. We know we can sell everything, negotiate on everything, fiddling around, outside of our soul. So we buy all. We know it is impossible to salvation without these values, so these are the values ​​that guarantee the salvation. If we abandon delivery that was given to us by Christ, considering it outdated or aged or no longer valid or no longer relevant, for future invented by us in the idea that it is the Holy Spirit, we are not innovators, we make no real progress, but we are traitors, deserters and faithless; we are no longer under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, Demon ma.

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Instead it is necessary that we always keep before the eyes del'intelletto and heart the values ​​and the absolute property, perennial and unchanging, God's Word does not pass - The word of God remains forever - that illuminates our path, It shows us our duties, us to experience the divine law, inflames the heart, It pushes us to holiness - the love of Christ compels us —, correcting our mistakes, forgives our sins, It leads to real progress, founded on divine truth always known better in the same sense and the same meaning.

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The appeal to "tradition" to know what is faith and what is not, in itself is not enough, and it is even illegal and wicked, if you claim to appeal directly and subjectively to Tradition, to contest or contradict or "fix" the doctrinal teaching of a Pope or a Council, as they often are the guardians and interpreters supreme and definitive Tradition.

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The error then worsens, whether between the content of Tradition does not discern which ones are truly permanent, inviolable and insuperable, and which it is old and outdated content. Tradition is not a matter of time duration, but the intrinsic value of truth, over the time, the content of the Tradition. We must be able to distinguish in the Tradition that is related to time and historical contingencies passing, what belongs essentially the Eternal and the Absolute, ie the institutional will of Christ ("Divine right") - for example the sacraments - which can never be, It never will be changed or abandoned by the Church.

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Thus it is not sufficient in every case to say: "gives 2000 years' - provided that you know for certain - "has always been thought or done so", because instead it is said that we should continue to do so forever. There is a past that is now past dead and buried. It would make sense to remove a corpse from the grave like the restoration of the values ​​of the past. What is rightly passed, it is good that remains of the past, otherwise it would be like trying to bring back those "things past" [II Cor 5,19], of which St. Paul speaks. Better still an ancient truth that a new error.

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There are indeed compared to Tradition firsts, never before existed. If, however, the Church establishes new things unknown to the previous Tradition, such as women's ministries or The new order of Mass, this is not a break with Tradition, but simply it means that those things were contained implicitly in Tradition.

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These are the lines of true "breakthrough prophetic", the real reform we expect of Pope Francis. Of course he should not listen to extollers time acti, and it does well to arguirli, but above all do not listen to flatterers and false friends, but those who really loves, who urges him to join teaching and pastoral, conservation and development, continuity and progress, loyalty and inventiveness, even if the true friend can have the tone of the warning or reprimand. The "revolution" populist, reckless and low-priced to let dittatorelli ambitious, bellied and demagogues Africa and Latin America, without lowering its sacred dignity of Vicar of Christ.

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If the Pope wants to be father of the poor, as it is clear from its intentions, imitate his Lord Jesus Christ and the countless Holy Fathers of the poor and let stand the Don Lorenzo Milani, i Fidel Castro Helder Câmara gli. The oppressed are not only immigrants. We invite the Holy Father to exercise his mercy with the crushed by the modernists, do not have too much confidence with the modernist oppressors.

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It is true that the lefevriani also speak of "modernists", but they distort the meaning of the concept, when they accuse of "modernism" the Papacy post-conciliar and doctrines of the Council, confuse progress with modernism or Maritain with Rahner or confuse Mass new world order Dinner with Lutheran. Continues below the journalist: "Reality, indeed, It is that "wheat" - words of the Pope - "has the power within, the yeast has the power inside ", and also "the power of the Kingdom of God comes from within; the strength comes from within, the growth comes from within ' ".

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There is no doubt about the truth of what the Pope says here. Only the Gospel image of the wheat grain is not the only image that Christ offers to His Word. No doubt it throughout history, always comes better known by the Church in the same sense and the same meaning, as St. Vincent of Lerins, with the development of the Church's dogmatic.

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To clarify the issue of the conservative function of pastoral and avoid the conservatism, necessary to refer to statements or comparisons of Christ, in which emerges the durability, stability, the immutabilità, incorruptibility, eternity of God's Word, like when, for instance, it is compared to a. "treasure" [cf. ], to a "precious pearl" [cf. ], a "drachma" [cf. ] or a "rock" [cf. ]. It is a word that "does not pass" [cf. ]. It is a word of "eternal life" [cf. ]. The precious things are carefully preserved and jealously. It is a principle of good sense, that everyone understands. And how much more so it must be kept intact and undamaged, at any cost, without change, without corrections, without adding and without taking, although with continuous explanations, the divine message of salvation, who assures us and promises us eternal life.

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Of course, the Gospel message is not like a perishable food, which is corrupt, if it is not well guarded and preserved. In fact, it is not afraid of the wear of time or corrosive agents. It is made of corruptible matter, but it is pure immortal spirit. It is a treasure that, though well guarded, "the thief can not steal and moths can not break '. Who can be corrupted is the possessor, who is unfaithful, negligent and neglected in the store and keep it, and then he can lose. Here apostasy. It can conceive evil and can travisarlo. That's heresy. It can hurt administer. Here human respect, sloth and negligence of the pastors.

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He continues the columnist: "Similarly, said Francis, "If we want to preserve for us the grain, It will be only a grain. If we do not mix with life, with flour of life, the yeast, It will remain only the yeast "". Here the Pope touches an aspect of conservatism. He obviously does not deny that needs store grain: otherwise, if you come to donate? We give what we have carefully preserved. Ma, If values ​​are to be donated, and this is precisely the case of God's Word, although it must donate. They are the very words of Jesus: "If the grain of wheat does not die, it remains only; but if it dies, it produces much fruit » [LC 12,24].

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How to tune preservation and progress

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It can advance the living being that has its own stable identity. In fact the real progress is to improve the conditions of the subject. The course assumes that the preservation of the subject. It is true that life is movement, it is becoming, it is changing. But why is life indeed be development or explanation in the right direction of the existing entity. The progress of the movement must be healthy, that is orderly and well-guided and non-pathological, disorganized or incoherent. Even a madman is full of movement, but no one envies his condition.

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The subject that divides or changes by denying their identity namely by ceasing to keep himself, start a movement that does not involve progress, but dissolution or disintegration. It is the process that leads to death. It is true that the dead no longer exercises the vital activities. However, the stiffness of death does not exclude at all in becoming a corpse which is its dissolution. So the sheer becoming, the simple change or mutate is not a good in itself. All becoming has a direction.

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Not to be trusted to a becoming confused and contradictory. To test whether this is progress, not corruption, We have to see where tents. If it tends to better progress; it tends to worse setback. It should be short, it is becoming, the development or enhancement or improvement of a subject who is supposed to be maintained in its own identity. Otherwise, becoming is not life, my dead, it is not progress, but retrogression, not evolution but involution, but no progress relegation, not decay.

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The concern to preserve their healthy alleged identity, It is a very legitimate concern and dutiful, that has nothing to do with conservatism do not know what "closing another". It lacks in masochists subjects and d It corresponds to what in the animal kingdom is self-preservation, without which that animal would soon be destroyed by adverse agents.

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It is necessary that the Pope, which supreme guardian, advocate, guarantor and moderator, concord and peace in the Church, to assume its responsibilities. It must ask yourself in the position it deserves fair trial, centering on the universal principles of the Church, so that both sides conflict - lefevriani and modernists - can recognize themselves as Catholic.

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It should be, secondly, that recognizes the part of truth and justice - mentioned in this article -, present and carried forward by both parties. The two sides, side by side relationship, fit perfectly, as the two halves of a sphere broken, because God created them just because, unite, do one thing, which it is the same reality of the Church.

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The Pope must make every effort so that the two sides meet each other and approached, overcoming old grudges, ODĪ. and mistrust. It must abandon its current propensity for modernists, otherwise it can not be expected to elicit the confidence of Lefebvre and the modernists remain confirmed in their errors and take on an arrogant attitude, which will not lead to any result. The Pope must make sure that Lefebvre feel understood and appreciated in their good reasons, What the Pope has so far not done, indeed falling into contempt and nell'insulto. They, But, from them, They must strive to accommodate confidently all the doctrines of the Council, as he urged them repeatedly Pope Benedict XVI and, consequently, the following papal teaching until Papa Francesco.

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As for the modernists, the Pope must follow the same method applied to Lefebvre: recognize the good sides and correct defects. Good side of the modernists, that has escaped the Lefebvrians, who misunderstood, is the attention to modern thinking and a willingness to modernization and progress of the Church. But if the Church is relatively easy to correct the errors of Lefebvre, after all few in number and fairly compact, a fact of doctrines and morals, gigantic undertaking, and above the forces of the Church it appears the work of correction of errors of the modernists, and because they are scattered throughout the Church, among pastors and the faithful, and because mistakes are very varied and touch on all the dogmas of the faith. Wanting to make a comparison drawn from garbage, cleaning up the Lefebvrian camp is about cleaning up the modernist camp, as well as to clean up in a Swiss city is to treat the Naples garbage.

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However, a point of agreement between the Pope, Lefebvre and the modernists you might find around the problem Rahner. Indeed, while the modernists consider Rahner their greatest theologian, Lefebvre have sharply Rahner identified in the greatest danger for the Church today. At this point the Pope - it's about time - should decide with courage, come what may, to condemn the errors Rahner, giving a just satisfaction to Lefebvre and to all lovers of truth and of the Church. However, things are not so simple, because really Rahner gave a contribution to the doctrines of the Council. It is at this point that Lefebvre pass from the wrong and so must the Pope correct them, because they consider it as a modernist's contribution to the Council rahneriano. From here their rejection of such doctrines regarded as moderniste, which is false, because Lefebvre interpret those doctrines of modernism in the sense rahneriano; and instead there Rahner gave a positive contribution, otherwise it would not have been approved by Council. If the Pope will be able to show to Lefebvre and the modernists the points on which they meet each other and if one more he will accept the papal corrections, Peace will be made.

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The Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary sustain the Pope in its leadership in the Church's mission in the truth, in the unit, in holiness, in a healthy pluralism and harmony, in a renewed evangelization, that enlarges the boundaries of the visible Church, vinca forces hostile to it, religions convert to Christ, reacquaint the separated brethren to the Holy Mother Church, showing the world the face of just God vindicates the humble, merciful comforter of the afflicted, liberator of the oppressed, conqueror of sin and death.

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Varazze, 14 September 2018

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40 replies
  1. Zamax says:

    To critics of the article Cavalcoli Father escapes the theological background in which his intervention was framed. Without this awareness it is likely to remain enmeshed in the lonely and confusing dimension of Becoming and fall, by reaction, the same mistake of who you want to fight. On a practical level and contingent (as this "contingent" has become relevant historical dimensions) P. Cavalcoli has made it clear that "Wanting to make a comparison drawn from garbage, cleaning up the Lefebvrian camp is about cleaning up the modernist camp, as well as to clean up in a Swiss city is to treat the Naples garbage. "So P. Cavalcoli does not live at all on Mars. If the legion of progressives "heretics" wants to put to the Truth of History Service, The tiny squad of traditionalists "heretics" eventually denied the History in the name of Truth, but in so doing obtain an opposite result and yet the image and likeness of that produced by the first, a result that denies the same metaphysical to which they appeal: Truth ends up vitrify in one dimension of space and time and to become fetish…

    ... Truth ends up vitrify in one dimension of space and time and to become a fetish rather than dissolved in it.
    With this awareness, an irreducible critical Rahner as P. Horses, can therefore afford to recognize the German theologian to have given even (that is, "accidentally") a positive contribution to the Council, But that nothing detracts from the substance of his thought heretical. He wrote Chesterton: "Since heresy is often not a simple falsehood; as said the same Thomas More, "There has never been a heretic who has only said false things". A heresy is a truth that hides all other truths'.

    In short, after thrashing of P. Ariel came the P carrot. Horses, perhaps because only by means of a vast theological and temporal perspective today are still unable to exercise a charitable and hopeful understanding for this season of the Church.

    Avoidance of doubt: l ' "instead of melt in it" refers to the position of the progressive "heretics". In both cases (progressives and traditionalists) you come for different ways to identification of Truth and History, Being and Becoming, ie to a negation of Being in the Christian sense.

  2. father ariel
    Letter Signed says:

    Chr.mo Prof. Horses,

    there are no dangerous modernists on one side and the other innocent victims of the modernists, if anything, there is the weakness of Paul VI (soon saint) and the great personalism of John Paul II (already a saint) to which only interested in the speeches related to sexual morality, while the churches were made creative Masses, they danced, you did concerts, it was theater, while the foundations of the house trembled under the shock of the earthquake, But it was enough that you were using contraceptives, and all was well in Africa.
    At the time I graduated in Classics, then I made with such passion theological studies (in Bologna where she taught) and then I had the role of teacher of religion in schools.
    In 1997 I was fired from the school where I taught because I slipped on the speech of contraception talking to students in their final years, and when I called the mistake to insist in supporting my reasons, you were wrong, but I recall feeling even more intestardii.
    To many it may seem unusual, but to defend myself and ask the bishop of that diocese that I was reinserted Bishop. Carlo Caffara, at the time bishop of Ferrara, but did not succeed.
    My colleagues explaining that the miracles of the Gospels were allegories and not real events continued to teach until retirement, But not sliding on contraception under the big 'moral papacy’ of John Paul II.
    Who, then, he has protected the modernists of which you speak, starting with Bultmann in the chair children?
    A 78 years I've come to thank God serenity and peace with certain past vicissitudes, and I feel useless to ask (even if I write the question rhetorically): if we had not restricted to just defend “no to condoms”, things could have been different?
    We all have contributed to this situation, clergy and laity, Father why I admire her for the way she identifies' origins’ and 'faults’ in others, as if the years she had lived in a happy island (not the Isle of Patmos), while all this to life.
    There was only one ready to admit that this is all our fault!
    No.
    All ready to admit that it is the fault of others, they are called modernists or rahneriani, while progressives show how guilty conservatives or traditionalists Lefebvre.
    Meanwhile, the house falls to pieces, but it is the fault of others …

    S.L. (Ravenna)

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Dear teacher,

      She mentions appropriately to an essential aspect of Christianity: the recognition of our sins, Which brings us to repentance, the request for forgiveness to God and to brothers, thereby obtaining the divine mercy, that drives us to the repair and correction of our faults. In this conversion process it is not allowed to accuse the brother of some blame, as long as there are freed us first. Indeed, it is useful thing for him, for to do penance and to the community, so avoid follow suit. Like this, if lefevriani between modernists and run mutual accusations, This is not necessarily inconvenient thing that breaks mutual charity, It provided that the allegations are well-founded and constructive.

      It is in fact done in this way, the mutual fraternal correction, it was also to the Pope, although he remains always the supreme guardian of the fraternal unity, and arbiter in disputes, and resolve the divisions, called by Christ to create peace, concord and reconciliation among brothers.

  3. father ariel
    luiselladean says:

    She says that ‘ a reformer Pope could correct the pastoral course of Vatican II '. I fear that the writing has escaped a little shade ... ... Benedict XVI had tried. Remember his last speeches made after the announced resignation when he said that Vatican II was not a 'superconcilio’ and 'superdogma’ ? Also remember the fate that Benedict XVI had been reserved before he came to the resignation? Do not you think that Pope Benedict attended the council has come to realize that the Vatican several things did not work properly? How else to interpret the sentences of his last speeches on the Vatican that was not taken as a 'superconcilio’ and 'superdogma’ ? Pope Benedict has resigned implying that the serious problems of the Church were to be sought in what the Vatican II had not worked, if the problem had been modernism, He would have said as clearly before retiring in Castel Gandolfo awaiting the conclave to elect his successor.

    Luisella De Angelis
    Rome

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Dear Luisella,

      Pope Benedict denounced those pastoral shortcomings of the Council, to which I referred above, while confirming the validity of its doctrines. He did not use the term "modernism", but it used equivalent expressions, like when he talked about the spread of subjectivism and relativism, false biblical exegesis, of irrationalist philosophies, "hermeneutics of rupture", the general crisis of faith, the "filth" in the Church and when prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith condemned many modernist errors, especially Rahnerians.

  4. father ariel
    andry11 says:

    I wonder if the phrase "the bishops do not watch and this promotes the return modernism" is meant to be a joke or meant to be a major hit. If the joke is serious you have to wonder ... who it is who appoints the bishops who do not ensure, and who should oversee the bishops who do not ensure? We in Bologna after Biffi and Caffara who it was who sent us a bishop who has transformed St Petronius in a restaurant and now fights for the construction of mosques and the city's churches are increasingly empty?

    Andrea Sanguinetti

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Dear Andrea,

      the phenomenon of bishops who do not ensure is now fifty years old. However, before we had Papa Francesco Popes Saints, who have tried to halt the advance of modernism, and for that they strove for the supervision of bishops, though with little success. The current Pope, instead, Unfortunately, that is too kind to the modernists, It gives us the worse bishops.

  5. father ariel
    Don Francesco Russo says:

    Dad, if as you say ... "the Council had confined himself to abandon a pastoral too conservative, anachronistic, static, repetitive, too defensive, suspicious, fearful, suspicious and aggressive towards the modern world "... today we will find ourselves in a situation where we are?
    I ask: what was the situation of the church in the decades following the Council of Trent and what is the situation of the church today 5 decades since Vatican II ? Council of which I have never questioned authority and documents, I am a priest of 69 year old, to clarify.
    It seems to me that when things are going well is about the church and all its personality lit, when things go wrong it is the fault of the world, of society, of politics, of historical events ...
    In this, the so-called pre-conciliar Church and the post-conciliar church have remained identical and unchanged in a perfect line of continuity.

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Dear Don Francesco,

      The Council certainly did not just do what I said, but it proposed a modernization, reform and advancement of the Church, so as to make it more effective evangelization of the modern world, taking, in the light of the Gospel, what is good in modernity and rejecting the bad.

      If the Vatican has not given the wonderful fruits that gave the Council of Trent, This is not from the teachings and directives of Vatican II in themselves, but the fact that the Council was followed by a strong, insidious and unexpected regurgitation of modernism, disguised as "progressivism", that the Popes of the post-conciliar, as Santi, They have not been able to curb.
      The current Pope, then, instead of correcting some defects of the pastoral council, as for example a certain tendency do-gooding and too optimistic about the world, He has aggravated them by his misunderstanding mercy, so we have arrived at where.

  6. father ariel
    Except Fazio says:

    Today we had the Pope in Palermo, in a Sicilian capital in practice semindifferente, stuff the visit of John Paul II a quarter of a century ago, but that's not the issue ...
    Rev.mo the father, the modernists do not persecute anybody. They do not need !!! To say that the mafia that has all the territory under full control with the right people to the right places, He is putting it turns out to persecute and make attacks with explosive charges three cats who criticize anti-Mafia association. If anything, the Mafia will have this association of subsidies.

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Dear Salvo,

      it is true that the Modernist feel powerful and mighty. But they know that their power is based on lies and violence. They know they are a foreign body in the Church and to have against the good Catholics. Of course the Pope is soft against them, but what he is not fulfilling his duty of guarding the flock of Christ, though, perhaps deceived by the modernists, He believed to be good, also for the success they achieved, to which the rest is too attached.
      But the power of the modernists is not as quiet as you think, I know that Christ is against them. Today modernist lobby is shaken to its foundations by the tremendous scandal denounced by the memorial S.It is. Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, which he involved the Pope himself, and that sparked outrage against them throughout the Church. Because of this, they try desperately and angrily to stay afloat with invectives, the slander and persecution, glimpsing, desperate, albeit still arrogant, that their end is near.

  7. father ariel
    mardepis says:

    Hear, hear! Bergoglio is surrounding by "false infected with Modernism collaborators and rahnerismo". And who is put around them? They are appointed by themselves? And when they combined disasters who protected them and who continued to keep them around (I only mention Bishop. Rich) ?
    The card. Mueller was not among those "infected with Modernism and rahnerismo" that made the end?
    I am sorry, sometimes I can not understand the father Cavalcoli, but surely it is my fault.

    Martina De Piscopo (Naples)

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Dear Martina,

      my idea is that the Pope is not only guilty of having surrounded himself with sycophantic staff, corrupt, smart and heretics, but that he, for his ingenuity, ambition and recklessness, it is also a victim, so that, if not doing his duty secure leadership in the Church, it is not just his fault, but also of the criminals who cheat him and block.

  8. father ariel
    Saints Simon says:

    "And these evils the Pope never speaks, all it is taken from exaggerated and biased polemic against traditionalism, which he is likely to make a bundle of all herbs, Also blaming that healthy conservatism that, along with a healthy conservation, are essential factors of the structure and progress of the Church ".

    And why do you think the Pope of these evils never talks? Have you ever thought that what for her is bad for Pope Francis rather than being all bad?

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Dear Simone,

      I do not judge the Pope according to what seems to me, but according to what the Church teaches on the same Pope's duties. If the Pope feels well what I indicate how badly, he does not act against my advice, but against the duties that are imposed upon him by Christ and the Church.

  9. father ariel
    Leoluca Sallei says:

    Father Cavalcoli says Bergoglio is the guarantor of the unity of the church harmony and peace. So all divisions and struggles going on for five years have unleashed the evil modernists under poor papal eyes, while the poor Pope prisoner of Santa Marta in the hotel, He does not know how to keep with her always so clear and unambiguous language of this agreement and this peace?
    In the old Marxist language sessantottino one would have said that "Bergoglio is the innocent victim of the capitalist imperial system"

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Dear Leoluca,

      The Pope took from Christ the task of ensuring, to found, ensure, promote unity in the Church, peace and harmony between its various components, and trends. Pope francesco, although by law and divine commission to have this office, It does not exercise with due caution, justice, diligence, charity and impartiality, ma, perhaps his thirst for success, unduly favors the modernists giving them an exorbitant power and mistreats lefevriani keeping them away from involvement in the governance of the Church. He is in the same culprit and victim of this system that he himself created.

  10. father ariel
    gil.pa17 says:

    It 's true as you say Father that we can not say that 2000 years has always thought and done well and that we should continue to do so forever. I'm a divorced but remarried civilly, I'm not going to receive communion, although I go to Mass every Sunday, because I know I am unable to receive. And when with all the assurances given in this regard by priests, others in my own terms go there because the priests say to divorced and that Pope Francis opened the communion for divorced and remarried, I do not go there, because I continue to believe what the Church has always taught.

    According to her doing wrong to do as we have always done?
    Treats.

    Paolo P.

    • father ariel
      don Pino M. says:

      Dear Paul P,

      I talk to a priest, not great theologian, they are not and could never be, nor specialist in dogmatic sacramental, I am not and could never be, I have a hard head like the Cure of Ars. The speak as a priest who floured the necessary basic theology knows the catechism.
      She is right to do as he does and what God will reward.
      For the second consecutive year, for the first communions in the parish I have it replaced by a brother, not intending to make me an accomplice of sacrilegious communions by components assemblies composed not only by divorced and remarried (divorced remarried least has assumed responsibility) but from a plethora of living together out of wedlock (in which marriage they dichiaran publicly not to believe) and that at the time of the communion line up.
      If the church had 10 parishioners as she'd be the happiest pastor in Emilia Romagna, instead I have 100 who desert for years the confessional, living irregular situations, including provocative gay couples demanding full legitimacy, you are saying that the communion “is my right” then adding “Pope Francis said who am I to judge?”.
      For now I got away because I have a pure septuagenarian bishop School John Paul II, in Italy I do not know how many remain, But few believe.
      Tomorrow I do not know, if I will manage with the new that will, but I never give anyone “to eat his own condemnation”.
      Allow for though I have only a smattering of theology and know and apply the catechism, for that what I say is true for what it's worth.

      • father ariel
        Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

        Dear Father Pino,

        do well to abide by what has the Family member company, Why, as I said, the note 351 from the joyful love, which speaks to the conditional, It is not a true law in force, but only a hypothesis of Law. Now a law is not expressed in the conditional ⦋ "could"⦌, but with the indicative or imperative.

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Dear Paul,

      She is right to do as ago. Pope Francis in love joy ⦋Nota 351⦌ has not given permission to spouses of the Communion in his condition, but simply she said it could give in the future. But so far he did not. So those priests who give communion to these couples, disobey the Pope.

      As for you, You have as the provisions of 84 of the reference point Family member company, in accordance with which, in the fulfillment of your Christian duties, you can be sure to live in grace.

  11. father ariel
    Paolo M. Adalvise says:

    Il.mo Prof. Horses,

    I'm just a little passionate about philosophy, but small. Or I do not understand, or she confuses me or she is confused ... but since she can not be confused, I'm confused, because if the pope "must make every effort so that the two parts (lefevriani and modernists) to approach and meet ", This means that thesis and antithesis must harmonize together and that contrary opposites can come together in a harmonious way.

    Thank you, reading his articles really learn many new things.

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Dear Paul,

      lefevriani and modernists are not two abstract entities as they are the thesis and the antithesis of the Hegelian dialectic. It is clear that if A is true, It can not be real-A. But things in this case are not so simple. Lefebvre and modernists are two historic human and ecclesial realities, concrete and collective, with their good sides and bad sides, as always it happens in human affairs. This is not to unite the true with the false. But the Pope, instead of constantly pampered modernists and scramble the lefevriani, should, berating the defects of one or the other, collect the values ​​that are found in one and in the other, why more real agree with another true.

  12. father ariel
    claudia2013 says:

    Dear Father, because as she writes … the pope should leave alone the Brazilian Bishop Camara? By chance she is not informed? Look, "The Holy See has already ratified the green light to the introduction of the cause of canonization of the Brazilian Bishop of the favelas", writes Stefania Falasca of Avvenire.
    Read below for confirmation.

    https://www.avvenire.it/chiesa/pagine/dom-camara-via-libera-al-processo-di-canonizzazione

    "The granting of the Nihil obstat was already signed on 25 February " (2015).

    Sister Claudia
    (22 years missionary in Brazil)

    • father ariel
      Lippi Luciano says:

      Sister Claudia,
      I observe that the father Cavalcoli says little before Pope Francis must also give up “i don Lorenzo Milani”, and I agree with him.
      I am afraid that in addition to Camara next Holy Father Cavalcoli forget that Pope Francis has paid tribute to all high-risk graves, honoring Don Lorenzo Milani and Don Tonino Bello, passing between the one and the other in Grosseto to render homage to that outside of Don Zeno Saltini head (God have it in glory) founder of the Catholic-socialist-Nomadelfia kibbutz. Do you think it was just a scant fifty of kilometers of highway from us (They are Siena), but hath looked well to move on to pay tribute to Santa Caterina Doctor of the Church that both popes Striglio confused like him to Avignon, ancient homolog of the future home of Santa Marta.
      What father Cavalcoli do not understand is that on the one hand and on the other the curries and almost justifies the exalted, as if to calm criticism should immediately be followed un'incensata to wash the guilt of having criticized softly.
      Of course it will be me who do not understand, rather it is right of course not understand, then … who am I to judge!

      https://www.avvenire.it/papa/pagine/il-papa-a-nomadelfia-com-e-nata-e-cos-e

      https://www.avvenire.it/papa/pagine/papa-francesco-a-barbiana-visita-alla-tomba-di-don-lorenzo-milani

      https://www.avvenire.it/papa/pagine/papa-francesco-alessano-don-tonino-bello

      • father ariel
        Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

        Dear Luciano,

        my criticisms and my defense of the Pope not flying on the same grounds, why I do not contradict myself at all. Indeed, if one side are free to criticize him in his moral conduct and in its governance of the Church, because here he can sin - and it shows the memorial Viganò -, as Teacher of the Faith, He has impermissibly from Christ the gift of infallibility, despite the language at times ambiguous and dishonest, so in the field of the truths of faith can not err, nor can deceive.

        Therefore I criticize the Pope for his recklessness and his narrow view of the sanctity, which is limited to the consideration of social and possibly political agitators operators, leaving out mystics, contemplatives, monks, hermits, Philosophy, theology, magistrates, military, literati, artists, poets and scientists, more than naivety or carelessness not to inform themselves of what they have actually done some people he admires. Said this, we can not deny, as did Luther, that he is the successor of Peter and therefore we can not deny him the respect that is due him as such. Similarly, St. Catherine of Siena scolded his Papa to retrieve the correct fulfillment of that office Petrine, which we must have great respect.

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Sweat face Claudia,

      a cause of beatification that is initiated does not mean that arrives in port, because in the course of the investigation may emerge regarding the Servant of God made outrageous and bad examples or evidence to the contrary, which deter from pursuing.

  13. father ariel
    Anthony Marinelli says:

    Dear Father Carlson,
    she writes … "Conservatism, instead, which probably alludes to the Pope, It is a foolish and unnecessary conservation ".
    So you think that Pope Francis has a mind so enlightened and so deep a culture to be perfectly able to distinguish "conservatism" from "conservation"?

    • father ariel
      Stefano Sarcina says:

      … wanting in this paper gets worse, because the distinguished author writes that we had "Fifty years of liberal rhetoric that has come to degenerate into modernism".
      It has only to ask, according to the principle of cause / effect, those that generated, favorite, protected and carried out this "rhetorical"? Or maybe it is a "rhetorical" sine cause that the cause exclusively in itself?

      • father ariel
        Don Ciro says:

        … you are wrong: the worst there is no end!
        Father Cavalcoli also says that if compared to the traditional "are firsts" including "women's ministries", this means that soon he will approve and will explain to us the optimal choice of women deacons and even the priesthood to married men who will be discussed at the next synod pan Amazon, because this does not at all constitute a "break with tradition" because it will be a thing "implicitly contained in the tradition", and he will also explain us how is contained in tradition.

        • father ariel
          Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

          Dear Don Ciro,

          respect for tradition does not exclude the Pope's right to introduce firsts, that are not in contrast with Tradition. The new is not necessarily at odds with the old, but there may be an ancient sure - and this is the Tradition – that can make room for a new. And an example of what is precisely the introduction of the female ministries, which does not deny the existence of the ordained ministries of their male, but there are added, as well as the female joins the male and does not deny it.

          The same is true of any priesthood to married men, which incidentally already exists in the Eastern Churches. Do not deny the permanent and pre-eminent value of the celibate priesthood, but there would be added as a different form of being priests.

          A separate issue of women deacons. Here we must distinguish. The project promoted by the Pope is by no means to establish a diaconate as a first degree of the sacrament - this means that it would be a break with tradition -, but to restore in a new form the ancient female diaconate, who it was and remains a lay ministry.

      • father ariel
        Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

        Dear Stephen,

        this rhetoric was secretly prepared, with skillful fiction, by an international organization with the secret support of the communist world and the Freemasons, already within the work of the Council. During the work of the Council, the conspiracy theorists are disguised under the label of "progressive", so as not to generate suspicion and acquired the esteem of many bishops. A defect of the council was to not organize a robust defense against heresy, because there was too much trust than were needed.
        After the Council, the modernists, sure of impunity because of the prestige they had acquired by fraud, boldly they came out of the closet, giving to understand to many to have been the protagonists of the conciliar renewal. At this point the bishops, not to make the figure of retrograde anticonciliari, I caught out, They did not have the courage to denounce. Unfortunately the same Popes of the post-conciliar, surrounded and deceived by this mass noisy and growing fake progressives, that to a certain extent, the rest, They had made a valuable contribution to the Council, They not had the strength to stop them. These are the origins of today's tragedy, with a pope who can not steer the ship in the storm, bragging about being a "revolutionary". I have personally experienced all these events, having 77 year old.

        Today we must make it clear to young people these things.

        Thank you

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      dear antonio,

      Pope francesco, as Teacher of the Faith, It would provide the criteria for making this distinction, but unfortunately, He bewildered by his desire for success, influenced by modernist collaborators and confused by his character humoral, it seems that none is able.

  14. fabius says:

    Dear father Cavalcoli

    I wanted to ask why seeks to combine tradition with modernity?
    If Rahner is heretical because she says that she brought something positive to the Second Vatican Council?

    Because for her to consider the council a partial failure would be a tragedy? given the results after 50 years a question I'd do, why condemn the error is no longer good
    as it was done in Preconciliar? The council opened to religious freedom and that is the result of the whole of Europe is in the hands of false religions and souls are lost indeed they say all lead to God.

    the Holy Father has said publicly: Jews, Muslims, Christians, Buddhists,we are all children of God, but not if it is invented Bergoglio, and it is a consequence of Our life? and conciliar openings.

    Thank you

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Fabius' flesh,

      It must reconcile tradition with modernity taken as a block, but with the good there is in it to the scrutiny of the Gospel. This is the screen that made the council. For this reason the Council is still current, because we need to keep doing this screening against new problems that arise, and which did not exist at the time of the Council, such as the spread of Islam or the Freemasons or the question of immigrants. It is therefore not the Council which has failed, but the false conciliar reform promoted by Rahner and others.

      I do not try to combine tradition with modernity taken as a block, but only with that part of healthy modernity, which accords with tradition. In fact, the life of the Church and consequently the life of the Christian is born from the experience of tradition, for which he retains the perennial values, it continually deepens, It makes them bear fruit, the spread, enhance them, makes them move forward and modernize them, without changing them in substance, but keeping them intact in their unchanging identity.
      Rahner, like all heretics, It accepts or teaches some truths. This is the positive aspect of rahneriano thought – I'm not sure his heresies – who has made a valuable contribution to the teaching of the Council.
      Consider the Council a partial failure would be a tragedy, because in fact his doctrinal teachings are precious. If you have a defect, This touches the pastoral, where we find a naive certain gooders, as if all men were in good faith and good will, and a certain naive optimism about the world, almost as if in it there were no consequences of original sin and the action of the devil.

      From here is too benevolent attitude towards other religions, who neglects to remember their downsides. This has given rise to relativist quell'indifferentismo, you complaint and that seems to be present in the preaching of Pope Francis. But in fact this error is not authorized by the council, which he reiterates the supremacy of Christianity over other religions.
      Taking this into account and without going there against, the doctrine of religious freedom, correctly understood, has quietly accept, because it has nothing to do with relativism, but simply order the state to not disturb and not to interfere in the religious beliefs of the communities belonging to different religions, in its territory, as long as they do not offer for percolo the common good and peaceful coexistence. It does not belong to the state, but to the Church to establish what is the true religion.

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Fabius' flesh,

      It must reconcile tradition with modernity taken as a block, but with the good there is in it to the scrutiny of the Gospel. This is the screen that made the council. For this reason the Council is still current, because we need to keep doing this screening against new problems that arise, and which did not exist at the time of the Council, such as the spread of Islam or the Freemasons or the question of immigrants. It is therefore not the Council which has failed, but the false conciliar reform promoted by Rahner and others.

      I do not try to combine tradition with modernity taken as a block, but only with that part of healthy modernity, which accords with tradition. In fact, the life of the Church and consequently the life of the Christian is born from the experience of tradition, for which he retains the perennial values, it continually deepens, It makes them bear fruit, the spread, enhance them, makes them move forward and modernize them, without changing them in substance, but keeping them intact in their unchanging identity.

      Rahner, like all heretics, It accepts or teaches some truths. This is the positive aspect of rahneriano thought – I'm not sure his heresies – who has made a valuable contribution to the teaching of the Council.

      Consider the Council a partial failure would be a tragedy, because in fact his doctrinal teachings are precious. If you have a defect, This touches the pastoral, where we find a naive certain gooders, as if all men were in good faith and good will, and a certain naive optimism about the world, almost as if in it there were no consequences of original sin and the action of the devil.

      From here is too benevolent attitude towards other religions, who neglects to remember their downsides. This has given rise to relativist quell'indifferentismo, you complaint and that seems to be present in the preaching of Pope Francis. But in fact this error is not authorized by the council, which he reiterates the supremacy of Christianity over other religions.
      Taking this into account and without going there against, the doctrine of religious freedom, correctly understood, has quietly accept, because it has nothing to do with relativism, but simply order the state to not disturb and not to interfere in the religious beliefs of the communities belonging to different religions, in its territory, as long as they do not offer for percolo the common good and peaceful coexistence. It does not belong to the state, but to the Church to establish what is the true religion.

  15. father ariel
    Lucio Fornasari says:

    Caro Father,
    If things are as you say you should not trust a becoming confused and contradictory (and certainly that is the case), this means that we should not trust the tenant of Santa Marta? For whoever is ambiguous and contradictory is he, or is the opposite?

    • father ariel
      Giovanni Cavalcoli, o.p. says:

      Lucio Caro,

      Becoming confused and contradictory is provoked and invoked by the modernists. Dad, as Successor of Peter, guides us on the path of the Gospel. However, He has occasionally certain expressions, which can make it look like a modernist. And above all, his fault is that he does not correct the modernists, He does not respond to those who asked for clarification on his teaching and does not contradict the misinterpretation of his words.

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