love joy. “Chastity of heretics is more impure adultery”. That great pied piper of the Holy Father Francis brought into the open the mice and their “Theology pant”

The joy of love. "HERETICS OF THE CHASTITY IS MORE IMPURE adultery '. THAT BIG MAGIC PIPER OF THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS MADE FOR COMING MICE AND THEIR “THEOLOGY OF PANT

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Catholic morality - unless you want to fall into darker Calvinism and Puritanism more furious - for being such, It must be structured entirely on charity; because Catholic morality is not a railway club, but a path toward the path of salvation. And shots of bar on your lap or on your teeth has never been redeemed none, including those who attacked these moralists call contemptuously "concubines" and "adulterers".

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Authors Ariel S. Levi Gualdo Jorge A. Faccio Lince
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Jorge A. Faccio Lince

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the “playful” blog Bergoglionate, It born from the thirty-year experience of a catechist and the deep devotion of his partner in San Pio da Pietrelcina and St. Josemaria Escriva de Balaguer, two saints that, usually, They spent their time to mock the Roman Pontiff

In a blog whose name is already a program catholicity, given that in deference to the august person of the reigning Pontiff has been called Bergoglionate, He came out yet another attack aimed at John Cavalcoli, this time accused of having manipulated, altered, but mostly it denied that the Blessed Apostle Paul said in his Letters [the text of John Cavalcoli is readable WHO, the accusation text addressed to him WHO].

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With the two ladies who run this fun blog We had long talks in the past which are also repeated in recent times in which, before the post-synodal apostolic exhortation The joy of love, in the pages of this blog they have been widespread inaccuracies that are primarily hurt writer, then to those, scrabbling around in the electronic network, It takes certain data for good, reading them and then spreading them if anything like word. And the inaccuracies are made particularly serious by the fact that it comes to manipulating the doctrine in order to support "I am right"; and I'm right because the first to utter Bergoglionate It is precisely the Successor of Peter, He accused several times in the recent past writings and published in this blog, to be full of gaps on the Catechism of the Catholic Church, word catechist with thirty years experience.

From the columns of Patmos Island - Through writings that can be shared or not, but they remain materials of undoubted theological dignity -, we have repeatedly explained that it is dangerous to improvise theologians, ecclesiologists, canonists and so, in particular of articulated and complex themes that require a thorough understanding of the whole. If in fact the Church is a body, in certain situations you need to know in all its articulated complexity of the anatomy; that does not mean to have summarily present the skeleton of the human body. And when it becomes necessary to do thorough investigations on the various internal organs of the body, this requires both instruments both specialists can perform ultrasound, tac, encephalograms and so. Unless someone does not intend to treat cancer with metastases by making use of the prodigious recipes with herbs Grandma Pina. We also explained - but it goes without saying: unnecessarily - that certain issues even induce more experienced theologians, smart with, to move on higher prudence. theologians, just by virtue of their wisdom, starting from the humble awareness of the complex delicacy of certain subjects, variously linked to some of the fundamentals of the depositium fidei. The result was that these two copiaincollatrici professional, by confused copy paste They have made huge blunders without head or tail, assembrati together after being taken apart by various acts of the Magisterium and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

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It hurts a lot to say, but that adopted against Giovanni Cavalcoli is the same technique by which, Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons, They occur in our homes to explain, with scraps of written extrapolated from Sacred Scripture, the Catholic Church and its hierarchy are in grave error and that for centuries have betrayed Christ and the true faith. If we then investigate, we find that these hardworking "evangelizers" come from cultural classes often very low and have a hard time reading the Scriptures for how the penalty should be read and analyzed; but even though they are safe, indeed granitic, in reputarsi depositaries and only faithful interpreters of the one and only Truth Revealed.

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In recent weeks, at the release of the post-synodal apostolic exhortation love joy, we had to put up with armies of "pious women" and "theologians internetici" improvised who have tried to enter with sling goldsmith inside rooms to read others', concentrating the whole mystery of evil in "Theology pant”, appearing not to know the intricacies of that doctrine and moral who continue to wield as a club, first contravention to the most basic elements of Christian charity. And also in this case - but it should be self, unnecessarily - we have time and again explained that the queen of all the deadly sins is pride, not lust, remains out of the question a cardinal sin, but that is certainly not the first, less than ever that on which govern all other, which it is precisely the pride. And who has experience both as a confessor both spiritual director, You know how much easier it back on course to a lustful superb, If anything, this second, even chaste and pure. How many of these subjects, confessors, They have brought to mind the harsh words spoken by the Holy Father of the Church Bishop Gregory of Nyssa: "Chastity of heretics is more impure adultery '. Because chastity is not a stoic renunciation, but a gift of God's grace. And if we separate chastity by the gift of love to focus on that legalism from “Theology pant” tied around the genital, you can only reach the non-love, or that terrible hardness of heart on which the Holy Father Francis has made repeated and relevant apostolic calls; but especially, pursuing certain streets, you come right into the arms of heresy Origenist and Pelagian heresy.

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At this point we would like to leave the floor to a woman It equipped with a non-common wisdom. It is one of the women who help always in precious so the apostolic work of the Island of Patmos Fathers, because our precious women are seriously pious, not pie in quotes. Indeed, some religious - like this of the cloistered nuns who follow us and who so pray for the Fathers of the Island of Patmos - are extraordinary female figures through the choice and the gift of chastity really love, and loving teach to love.

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this woman, Dominican nun, for years of Father John Cavalcoli secretary and his date and our precious adviser, he understood our sorrow at this latest rambling attack directed all'insigne Dominican theologian; attack put up from a "Pious Women" riddled with bad Catechism, and improvident copiaincollatrice, which presumes to deny incorrectly on public agora an academic of unquestionable wisdom and Catholic orthodoxy. Our Dominican nun answered us with his typical kindness, writing these words in private that we believe should be made public and make our:

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Unfortunately, there are none so deaf as those who will not understand. Especially when they are playing very important values ​​and articulated. About marriage, Father John has always before him the example of his parents serene. What about the man-woman relationship he has always tried to emphasize the dignity and complementarity, highlighting the psychological aspects, spiritual, cultural and social. Perhaps the Authors of this article have insufficient knowledge of the Father, John studies and his thought and therefore can easily misinterpret what he says. We know that San Paolo, as other authors of Sacred Scripture, often alternating different expressions, about the woman, expressing also the limitations associated with their culture and scientific knowledge of the time; limits that the Lord has somehow respected and respects. The woman is sometimes seen as the cause of all evil, especially evil seen hidden in sexuality. Other times it is elevated to a symbol of the relationship with God, seen as the soul Spouse. I just can not understand where it resides “scandal” given by Father John, who nevertheless already written a lot about men and women.

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The psychological and spiritual drama of Women Authors This blog belonging to a misunderstood world of so-called "tradition", It is that they believe to live a faith put to the test - because it is the facts that you do the analysis - not even reach the heights and the recognized dignity of the popular faith of the simple; that faith which often, throughout history, It saved in its own way the Catholic thought in the People of God, much more than they have sometimes helped to save the great theologians of history, some of which not infrequently sowers of genuine heresies.

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The priests, theologians included, are in fact aware that the Holy Church, as Patron, He did not give them or Saint Anselm of Aosta nor St. Thomas Aquinas, but John Vianney, cured at Ars, a brothel of drunkards, thieves, whores and blasphemers. John Vianney became a priest for the skin of our teeth after studying a bit 'of theology with a stick, slow on the uptake, defective in knowledge of Latin and stammering on the lines of the Missal.

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What we think is right to thank with profound devotion to the Pope Francis is the fact that today, these people, thanks to him that hath been revealed in this providential Pied Piper, [cf. interview 2013 Ariel S. Levi Gualdo, WHO] They have come into the open as the mice of the famous fairy tale of the piper of Hamelin, manifesting all that ignorance leads them to drown in the aggressive pride, but especially in their dramatic closure to listen and then to grace. And here it is worth remembering that grace comes through listening that goes' also paid to those whom the Church has consecrated as their priests, acknowledging in some of them the valiant theologians; and John Cavalcoli is one of these, not because we say, but because he says the Church who has played for was grace in the sacred service of function consacration and teaching.

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Say: "But I teach catechism to thirty years', then reacting skirting copy paste foolish ignoring what the exegesis of the Holy Scriptures, to attack with the sneer wiseacre a priest and an elderly theologian with the prosecution that he had fallen in modernism and rahneriane drifts, denying seriously half a century of studies and research, What is objectively foolish. Stating this also means then willfully ignore the prices that this eminent theologian has paid for his hard battles carried out against modernism and teologismi Karl Rahner; all with a spirit worthy of the mettle and wisdom of the great Fathers of the Church.

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A lady who is self-invested of function consacration and teaching the catechist with thirty years experience, which accuses in this way the eminent Dominican theologian from the chair omni-theological blog Bergoglionate, in concrete facts it demonstrates one way to be devoid of common sense of the ridiculous, on the other hand it shows to be sealed to the action of grace, passing by listening to teachers, those recognized and mandated by the Church, is through the sacrament of the sacred order of priesthood is through the grace missio canonical teaching high specialist theology. All, of course, pace of Catechist Lady, that no matter how "strong" the thirty years of experience, It was not covered by the Church or of this office nor of this missio, if not then its manifest “wisdom” that speaks for itself whole between the lines of his rants fanta-doctrinal.

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Recall the Lady and its partner in Bergoglionate, how many were in the time in which their articles, behind false pretexts of irony, put to shame the Supreme Pontiff, Bishops and Cardinals, in their catechetical judgment unassailable, as borne out by their copy paste, were no Orthodox, or at least out of what should be the truths of faith announced by the Church.

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Both John Cavalcoli both Ariel S. Levi Gualdo signed several articles in which they criticized, on the strictly theological level, some figures regarded by some as the so-called sacred cows, for example, Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, just as they did regarding theology of Their Excellencies Rev.me Nunzio Galantino, Bruno Forte and others. But always "attacking" their ideas, ever, their people, let alone with the fake irony. And in various items particularly biting Ariel S. Levi Gualdo, It is clearly expressed and reaffirmed in every way the devotion due to men are and will remain for the mystery of grace custodians of the sacramental fullness of the priesthood; a fullness that there is not ever having been given to the laity who engage in pleasant Bergoglionate.

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The article written rambling and diffuse against Giovanni Cavalcoli and already mentioned in the first lines of the opening, It is entirely structured on a succession of various songs and passages of scriptural and magisterial texts that were not taken by a correct and scientific theme, but only for the simple fact that within these "bits" are enclosed words that would bring similar concepts; as if they had been caught through indication of specific words on a search engine Google. Therefore, to prove the obvious error of Women Authors, They should be taken one by one all the segments extracted from them and then proceed to their correct contextualization, thereby explaining the true meaning of the text obtained by an articulated context, then explain its true meaning within the complexity of the topic, or if you prefer inside the complex anatomy of the Body which is the Church of which Christ is the head and we are living members [cf. With the 1,18]. But to do this, to the serious theologian, would result in the burden of writing dozens of pages of explanations, What we believe is not worth dealing with people who unfortunately remain closed upstream listening.

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The most glaring lack of Christian charity exerted by these Authors is the use of terms such as "children of God", "Church", "Working together" and come on saying to follow. These terms are always set out in the opening and serve as a prelude to an avalanche of quotations and examples through which one tries to put the person targeted in the role of a schoolboy devoid of adequate training and Christian theological discernment, which in this case it is the senior theologian John Cavalcoli, from them criticized, He judged and then condemned the serious charges of modernist tendencies and rahnerismo.

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That said passateci now some examples really ironic: accused of modernism and drift Rahner John Cavalcoli, tantamount to accusing the Blessed Teresa of Calcutta have exploited the Indian child labor for profit; equivalent to accuse St. John Paul II that he was a man put the Soviets in Moscow on the payroll of the Communist International; tantamount to accusing the Servant of God Father Oreste Benzi exploitation of child prostitution and so on .... This is why we insist that the two members of the worthy blog Bergoglionate, in addition to not knowing the Catholic doctrine, They are totally devoid of common sense of the ridiculous, the problem is that we laugh about their ridiculousness, but they totally ignore to be ridiculous, so they feel paladins launched in defense of the true faith and true traditio catholica disfigured by the modernist heresy of a theologian like John Cavalcoli, unable to do an exegesis of certain passages of the Blessed Apostle Paul, as he complains and wand as the diligent catechist with thirty years experience thundering towards the eminent pontifical academic.

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Often, the Authors, make use of judgments Aquinas dell'Ipponate texts or trying to imitate the two Fathers of the Church in the formulation of the famous Concerning the problems truth. In doing so, coarsely and pedestrian, or so to say home, forget that these sentences were the result of speculation and an extremely rigorous debate, and specifically through the argument of their confused texts show, however, did not know absolutely. And from the obvious lack of knowledge is passed to the willful ignorance which is expressed through the typical pride of neo-intellectual that with a smattering of Catechism misunderstood, far from having struggled for many years through the study and the serious scientific research, They think they have understood everything and its opposite by simply reading an introductory book or a book pietas Popular dedicated to two giants like Saint Augustine of Hippo and Thomas Aquinas.

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Please then grant another case in point: everything is equivalent to people who, within their living rooms, feature the Treccani encyclopedia and work of Dante Alighieri printed in precious and expensive volumes, but that they would never be able to provide a basic explanation, if not theological, these two triplets in poetic rhyme reveal the mystery of the Holy Trinity:

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Within the deep and luminous subsistence
de l'High Light appeared three laps
three colors and one magnitude;

and one from the other as Iris is by Iris
parea reflesso, and 'the third Seemed fire
that equally from both is breathed.

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In a vehement attack on John Cavalcoli, The Authors state that take only one piece of sacred scripture and explain its context and meaning, It can lead to the denial same author; said return this hereinafter to reaffirm, but above all to ask - all the while through shreds extrapolated to support their attacks - to appeal to the texts or the authors who have followed the same procedure adopted by the Dominican theologian. What this in itself impossible, because within the Holy Scripture there, both in the Old and New Testaments, the songs that are in themselves and by themselves only, such as: the original sin [cf . There 3,1-13; 3, 22-24], the Flood [cf. There 6, 5-9, 17], Samuel's vocation [cf. And I 3, 1-10. 19-20], the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin [cf. LC 1, 26-38], The Resurrection of Christ God [cf. LC 24, 1-12; Mt 28, 1-7; MC 16, 1-7; GV 20, 1-18], the Holy Spirit Pentecost [cf. At 2, 1-11], The debate among the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul in Antioch [cf. Maybe 2, 1-2. 7-4]. Therefore, the texts that can be taken as "equal", They are very few, just to clarify matters combative catechist to our thirty years of experience. If you want you can take other texts to give a greater understanding of a text that lacks its clarity, but you can hardly take another text that is equal to the dialogue that took place between the angel and the Blessed Virgin Mary to demonstrate the correctness of the Incarnation exegesis of the Word of God. So there is indeed this impediment to exegetical and historical level against which, do a study and a search for authors or documents that have made this same procedure, inevitably it leads to the complex world of high specialized theological studies, Therefore it is to get into very complex materials that are neither known nor practiced by all. Ask similar questions so really peregrine, safe to finally have "caught" the "poor" Dominican theologian, now young modernist rahneriano, daring him to cite similar steps, It would be like asking a professor of classical physics a comparison that is equal - if not exact - at what's in the search for a unified theory of particle physics and astrophysics.

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The most serious error in which the two fall indomitable copiancollatrici, He closed to any kind of reminder and explanation, indeed rejecting the explanations of theologians specialists that over and over again responded by sending the bits taken from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, with sarcastic invitation to study them and learn them well, It consists in the fact that they end up making a process the intention of the subject and to the dignity of the accused. And all this for the good of the "poor" theologian fell like a ripe pear Modernist heresy and rahnerismo, but for the simple fun morbid and unhealthy to sit in judgment. And in this case we are among other things to talk about judges elettisi in these facts without knowing even the rudiments of the law and the Code of Criminal Procedure, but above all the story through which the code is now in its formulation. The two Authors perform in this way the same mistake of those amateur historians who say that the Holy Inquisition would have ... "burned millions of women accused of witchcraft" (!?). While it is quite another historical reality and legal: the inquisitorial process, far from having "burned millions of women ', It born as ensuring maximum protection for the accused, and a defect of form, even minimal, entailed the invalidamento from then the entire procedural action.

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And then, that one of the two copiancollatrici, at every opportunity to remake the Holy Doctor of the Church Catherine of Siena, at the head of their suffrage amenities, throws a halo of no slight uneasiness, if we consider that she, against the other, it is also a Dominican Tertiary! And the anxiety is generated by the fact that she shows not know the figure, the story and the lyrics of the famous Sienese Dominican; and if anything he had read them, then the thing is more serious still, because it shows the concrete facts of not having understood its. It's easy to say why: when, where and in what juncture, Catherine Benincasa, He dared to mock and invited to take a mockery of the Roman Pontiff bacchettandolo on doctrine and its supreme Magisterium? When, where and in what juncture, Catherine Benincasa, with irrepressible arrogance, Avignon has sent a message in which he invited the Roman Pontiff to read and study well the Catechism of the Catholic Church? And especially where, Catherine Benincasa, He wrote pamphlets - place which also was illiterate - in which indicated the Pope Urban VI to public ridicule as Urbanbischero? [remember that in Tuscan dialect, bischero, equivalent to around … Bergoglione/Bergoglionate]. And exploit for certain purposes and to certain self-legitimation a woman like Catherine Benincasa, It is equivalent to the exercise of the most serious intellectual dishonesty. Not to mention the other partner in the Tertiary, ready to declare at every turn devout San Pio and St Josemaria Escriva. No One, in this second “Pia Woman”, He never explained what beatings would give the first - and still repeat: beatings - and how many slaps would give instead the second - and I repeat yet: slap -, if anything, it was presented before these two holy men of God and their presence had defined the Roman Pontiff ... Bergoglione , place Bergoglione It sounds like a synonym making clear rhyme with c ……?

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These "pious women", de facto, before the current reigning pontiff who has proved beyond doubt also destabilizing and provocative, through their poorly react they have unfortunately shown in the facts an immature faith, infantile, made of brittle traditions, mannerisms and aestheticism. It is so easy to say: before a Francesco were quickly shown to be untenable, not to have all the grace of antibodies to act and react with that faith, hope and charity that is not a nursery rhyme, because these three pillars are the theological virtues that are the foundation of our holy faith [cf I Cor, 13]; and our holy faith is recognized by both the thinking, both, above all, by concrete action, as well as way of dealing with neighbor.

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These people, without realizing, also and especially through copy paste of teaching texts and teachings extrapolated from their context and rigor not included, appear to have contained within it the worm itself which rose Martin Luther; and their approach to the contemporary Papacy, with the doctrine and writing, is in fact an approach everything Lutheran. And Catholic morality - unless you want to fall into darker Calvinism and Puritanism more furious - for being such, It must be structured entirely on charity; because Catholic morality is not a railway club, but a path toward the path of salvation. And shots of bar on your lap or on your teeth has never been redeemed none, including those who attacked these moralists call contemptuously "concubines" and "adulterers". And the problem, incidentally, It is not the fact that there are both cohabitees both adulterers, which obviously exist, but that these two terms are used to attack and insult many people, often with great suffering and inner discomfort, live of so-called irregular situations who would rather not be able to live. This is the reason why we need to distinguish the severity and the weighted hardness fruit of charity and if necessary its effective medicament and corrective tool, from attack by those who, ruthlessly and without feeling reasons, sentences with authentic hardness farisaica: "You are cohabiting and sinners in a state of mortal sin indubitable. And if there imprisoned his genitals with the chastity belt living as brother and sister as commands the supreme dogma of faith in n. 84 of Family company, go to hell, because that is, and that's!».

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These lay Pugnacious, that between a Bergoglionata and the other throwing poison and hatred of the Roman Pontiff, thank goodness they all came into the open with their grievances, with their childish beliefs and their alleged granite doctrines but actually built as houses on the sand [cf. Mt 7,21. 24-29]. And tomorrow, anger into rage, rancorous hatred in, to their amazement they will feel the same Lefebvre said of the Fraternity of St. Pius X, through their strong and severe distancing: "Your reasoning is not a Catholic, and we with you we have nothing to do and especially nothing to do». Is this, Lefebvre first, They tell him because to them, the Holy Father Francis, as he approached the head of the Catholic Church intends to dialogue with Catholics, trying to understand them as such instead of judging, although it would all potestas and wanting any reason to give judgments on them too strict, considered to be the obvious errors that they continue to remain between them. And with that his actions, The Holy Father, perhaps he is trying to teach us that blows a steel bar on the knees and on the teeth is very unlikely to bring into the fold the sheep. Although, in some circumstances and in specific situations that require it for their own good, certainly not for subjective hatred of the angry shepherd, it may be necessary and especially providential also taking the sheep with a stick. But it is precisely the decisions that compete to the grace of state and the potestas Shepherds', certainly not the insolent sheep with thirty years experience of catechists.

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Land Lord of fun blog Bergoglionate, in addition to grace they should also have the intellectual honesty to sign their articles, as they have always been the island of Patmos Fathers, used by virtue of their faith, their hope and their charity, to take before God and before men all responsibility for what they say and what they write, in a particular way when turning critical to others doctrine and theology.

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And if the two Lord, for months that throwing thunder and lightning against the "concubines" that contravention of sacred dogma n of the faith. 84 of Family company They live out of the state of grace and eternal state of mortal sin, they wanted a test of Christian charity and noble elegance, for our part we have also occurred at this juncture. Indeed, despite knowing them well, deliberately avoid indicate their names. And if the Lord think that continuing to throw stones and to withdraw the hand, without presenting a spade and not shoulder their responsibilities, is a sign of high Christian dignity, Well in that case, know that the "concubine" who violate the sacred dogma the n. 84 of Family company, morally speaking, sin without them, by virtue of the fact that, chastity of heretics, It is worse than adultery.

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24 thoughts on "love joy. “Chastity of heretics is more impure adultery”. That great pied piper of the Holy Father Francis brought into the open the mice and their “Theology pant”

  1. Article as always perfect. However I think one of the causes of this theology pant (I would call with terms less refined), at least in Italy, It is also due to those who publish regularly the lamentations of some obscene agiografa pastry, on which she already expressed, thus inviting a certain fringe femminilbigotta to emulate the pedantic tone and exhortation. It would be interesting to study this phenomenon, which it draws its roots from a Ratzinger perhaps misunderstood, read through the story more or less good of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, Albenga etc.. up to recent exhortation.

  2. dear brother, the compliments are unnecessary ( You deserve it all right!), so much better sharing. And I tell you that I share, given the references made by you, as a pastor in the care of souls and confessor.
    Tremendous, this period, in which many lay “engaged” They are increasingly clerical, where those who have studied a little’ catechism is just a refined theologian, but, above all, where with what you have defined more than once “inhumanity”, It enters with codicils and sophistry in … bedrooms of others, rooms often burdened many dramas that would be more inclusive and less judged with Similar snooty. With nothing to take away sin and disorder.
    I think you said it all with a concise and exact phrase … “by blows with a steel bar on the legs and teeth, not save anyone”.
    It is noi, Priests, without detracting, I repeat, to sin and disorder, try to understand, treat, receive, here she is … “catechist with thirty years experience” that gives you a heretic and traitor to the true doctrine.

  3. … please, toglio any reference to “Theology pant”, You know … here in Naples are so original, that there is the case that someone should set up a special chair at our theological study!

  4. This your only period …

    And Catholic morality - unless you want to fall into darker Calvinism and Puritanism more furious - for being such, It must be structured entirely on charity; because Catholic morality is not a railway club, but a path toward the path of salvation. And shots of bar on your lap or on your teeth has never been redeemed none, including those who attacked these moralists call contemptuously "concubines" and "adulterers". And the problem, incidentally, It is not the fact that there are both cohabitees both adulterers, which obviously exist, but that these two terms are used to attack and insult many people, often with great suffering and inner discomfort, live of so-called irregular situations who would rather not be able to live“.

    … He is a professor of moral theology!

  5. As long as you did not make han “stolen” Ligurian, I went to the convent of Bologna to confession one-off Father John Cavalcoli. Today, which is elsewhere, I keep it close with his writings.
    … the discussion would be encyclopaedic, so that does not beat about the bush: I have 81 year old, I entered the seminary at 11, the beauty of … 70 years ago.
    I still remember with terror (and also I told Cavalcoli years ago) when I met the confessors 15 year old.
    And then, God be praised, things have changed.
    Padre Ariel, You have centered the problem, with your humor on “Theology pant”, that in several articles have indicated sardonically as “center of the entire mystery of evil”.
    What sorrow meet, today, to 81 year old, the clergy, with all its strengths and weaknesses, has changed, and yet find, in old age, those old and terrifying confessors no longer in priests, but … the laity! In laymen and, worse, in secular …
    Best wishes to the Island and its Fathers.

    Don Elio

    1. dear brother “senior”, Priests like you, with their history, experience and wisdom, very heartened many of us closer to “middle age” (this writer 46 year old).
      And wisely you hit with a precision arrow through the heart of the problem: yesterday, were many priests, and particularly certain confessors, to be an often embarrassing even rigor, today, instead, I lay people who are certain, if we try to understand and accommodate (and understand and accommodate does not mean accepting the sin and bless) we find ourselves, often, to be hands slapped by the laity … and especially by the lay which escapes a critical step: we must care for the sick, certainly not the healthy. It is not appropriate, in certain patients, say so aggressive that they are sick, because it is much better to talk to them about the disease and the disease dangers, then help, when and if possible, to get out and be healed.
      Pray for us.

  6. Cavalcoli Fathers and Levi Gualdo.
    I owe a lot to your writings, at a time of great confusion that lingers in the church, me they have reported on the straight path, and in my original serenity.
    If we women, inside the church, we lose our role, we risk becoming the very worst people men, because, the roles that are not ours, to make us aggressive and competitive nature to absurdity.
    Greetings.

  7. Dear Fathers (drain p. John, drain p. Ariel, both the priests intervened to comment), I always find the island of Patmos articles marked by some virtues which now feels all too need:

    the reasonableness,
    l'balance,
    wisdom,
    the charity'.

    And why’ not even a healthy pleasantly rough humor, to p. Ariel? Here's why, by secular, return more often to your electronic page. And every time I draw from your work two important teachings:

    – that before writing (or speak) trying to pontificate on anything, I still have a lot to learn;
    – that prior to cure me of specks in others' eyes, and’ well me take care of the beams in my.

    Therefore I tell you a heartfelt “Thanks”.

    P.S. as for the “Chastity heretics” I did not know the words of St. Gregory of Nyssa but I find it very true. I think for example to Cathar: abstaining from meat, absurd fasting, absolute chastity, and the beautiful proceeds of all this was one of the most’ blasphemous heresies that you may think.

  8. In our diocese we sent an Apostolic Administrator, and, as soon as possible, will appoint a new bishop, you who have commitments …?

  9. busy!
    I'm really busy to save my soul and to save souls through grace of God.
    And in the words of Father Filippo Blacks to Pope Sixtus V in his old age he wanted to elevate him to the rank of Cardinal: «Paradiso, Paradiso! No, Holiness, Thanks, I prefer paradise!».

    However fear not, there is an increasingly dense army of priests who for some time have been disengaged from this kind of commitments; and you're certain that one of these – and in species with the times that run – be your future bishop. It will be mediocre enough to not irritate the total calm that corrupts the episcopate of your region, I know that as you know quite well.

    Rest assured that soon you will give yet another bishop with the pastoral directives of the Holy Father Francis, which between a “periphery existential” and the other, you will have “poor” always ready on the mouth; and his homiletics will be a riot of “refugees” and “hymns reception”, unaware that you can not call “hospitality” the invasion and colonization of Europe by Mohammedans now scristrianizzata. then will dialogue with the Muslims forgetting that the Christian pastor, It will make a beautiful pastoral wood from the carpenter and flaunted a wooden cross around his neck,

    It invents and tell of coming from a family of farmers, although in truth it comes from a family of farmers who earn in a day what a bank director earns in a month, etc. … etc. …

    Council required but still offered priestly fraternity and of which you can make use you want: most mediocre and most unsuitable will the bishop that soon you donate, the more you bring to him devoted and filial respect, seeing more and more revered in him – beyond its misery and complacent flattery chameleonic through which it has come episcopate – the mystery of Christ and the Church, that the bishop holds all the members.

    Because these, My dear Brother, They are as things stand the bishops that we are giving, mostly mediocre and pimps, but always bishops, by the grace of God bishops.

    1. Sorry, father, a question, then if the answer publicly embarrasses, give me a private reply, Also in a few words, because I would understand … and the question is this: but if people like you are doing back, to us, what is left?
      Thanks!

      1. Dear Stephen.

        People like me do not "make it back", simply do not do it right forward or we think at all to come forward.
        While you remain Christ and the mystery of the one, holy catholic and apostolic,

  10. Unfortunately, the web acts as a “Rossini breeze” powered by “Word of mouth“. rumor, the often vicious rumor published on a blog – which they are often unknown artists and curators and thus their authority, the rigor in the preparation and selection of the texts they published, the seriousness and reliability of the comments and the accuracy of the quote sources – It was immediately picked up by other blogs, perceived as good, sometimes it readjusted and re-sold to others as “absolute truth“. A sort of chain, cascade, pyramid whose effects “mystifiers” They spread rapidly along uncontrollable rivulets. And’ successful on this occasion.
    Besides the untamed island Fathers do not escape the rules of the world, fight the good fight with their articles, their stances, prompting many likes and dislikes many… but also great indifference.
    In the long run, hardly, emerge the “truth” ?

    That is a kind of punishment of God: the stubbornness of wanting to get blood from turnips?
    I remember the verse Luke 18, 27 [Ed. "The things which are impossible with men are possible with God"]
    Only the intervention of God can achieve significant results from those who are manifestly unable to produce them.

  11. People. Themselves, Hector.
    its lines reflected the wisdom of the lay Catholic, and for us priests, the ability to relate to lay with Christian “docility” and “reason”, It's getting harder. Once a week I meet in the evening with the three priests of my district, now it is a “tradition”, we have dinner together, then it remains to speak with us. I'm not saying we almost always cry on the shoulders one another, but more or less …
    Whether while dates to priests all the blame, also great, we have priests, but believe: find themselves having to work in parishes with lay people who want to rule the roost and lay down the law, and even impose their priest “rules”, “doctrines” the “liturgical rules”, and the first delicate “No, this can not be done”, They rush to strepitar the bishop complained of having suffered attacks of treason by the pastor, understand well … It is not possible! It is not possible to go ahead 'it is a way.
    A quel point, Bishop, not wronged you, but even reason, and, above all, never gives wrong to lay, by reason at all, and not by anyone, and so always falls standing, while the priest remains as a beaten cane, but not by wind … buffeted by the whims of the untouchable laity.
    What she describes, It can be transferred from the computer network to certain parochial reality, where the “pie gives” stimmatizzate in this article by Fr.. Ariel, no two, but twenty! And all in the flesh, ready, as needed, to give battle to the parish priest who does not do what they who desire, who decides what who desire their, it does not say what who desire their.
    It remains for me memorable, the article on “tax dogma” in p. Ariel. Memorable because, throughout the first part he describes with surgical precision of historical type, pastoral and social drift of the laity tied to certain movements, that, many of us pastors, han often made life hell in parishes.

    [ Ed. http://isoladipatmos.com/amoris-laetitia-siate-casti-pero-pagate-le-tasse-perche-il-pagamento-delle-tasse-e-un-vero-dogma-di-fede/ ]

    I, priest 58 year old, with my modest theological studies, 30 years of priestly ministry, and a little’ pastoral experience, Forward to a man of science like the Dominican professor p. John Cavalcoli, I would put listening like a schoolboy, clear to me why the caliber of character. But even with p. Ariel, that's a few years younger than me and who is a priest for less than 10 year old, I would do the same, aware that, even among other 30 years of ministry, I I could preach to his level, even less to take conference of its scope, because I do not have his culture, and I have the gifts (charisms) that the Lord has given him.
    And’ it possible that a catechist, as catechist, Take the shotgun and shoots burst of theologians of this caliber as in the turkey shoot, to indicate to their … “modernist heresy”?
    Yes, it's possible, unfortunately!! And’ possible because we priests ventured out from our sown, and why the laity, They have gone out, perhaps even for much past our fault, from their sown. And all this, for intelligent and precise way, p. Ariel has explained in that article referred to above, an article that perhaps, in Rome, do not read any, unfortunately !!
    All this to say, People. Themselves. Hector, that often, we priests, are we really forced, to try to tear out blood from turnips, as she writes, trusting in waiting for the Lord operates what is impossible for man ( Luca 18,27).

    don Michele L.

    1. Rev. Don Michele, ,
      I understand very well the situations,difficulties, mortifications of his ministry. She teaches me that every Christian is called in life to carry the cross. She knows that God never asks for a greater ability to sacrifice that gave us. She knows better than I.:
      Mt 19,27-29 “… And Jesus said to them,: … And everyone who has left houses, or brothers, or sisters, or parent, or mother, or children, or lands, for my name, He will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.” And the words of St Paul. 2 Tim 2, 1-13 “… Also take your share of suffering, as a good soldier of Christ Jesus….the Lord will give you understanding in all things”
      2 Color 9, 6-9 ” … soweth sparingly, sparsely collect and whoever sows, reap bountifully. Each one should give what he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. The rest, God is able to make all grace abound toward you because, always having the necessary throughout, you may do generously all good works…”
      Pray for me, for the cross I bear. I will do it for you.

  12. The trio Cavalcoli, Ariel and Facio Lince indulge too “art autoerotism” so they do not even know what are you talking about. Council three “pippari” to devote more time to prayer.

    1. Themselves. Bazzorini,
      Welcome back!
      No "auto-eroticism", for divine charity! We're grown men, small teens.
      Truly we are a trio of unrepentant womanizer, thanks to Father John, which it is only a Dominican "hedging", because in truth he is not living in a convent of Liguria but in Ukraine, where it runs an international escort agency called “Romagna my s.r.l.“, with tax office in Kiev and deposit profits in Panama, where Jorge A. Facio Lince shall bring money pouring it out of the profits of the Company in an account in the fictitious name of Tommy jr Aquins.
      But do not tell anyone, Please, otherwise the Ecclesiastical Authority suspends us peep.

      1. This morning / I am Woke up / … and instead of saying “hello beautiful” as he sang the non-late Don Gallo, I went to deliver the certificates in an office of the Curia of Naples, a priest and a layman were laughing into the room in front of the computer. The priest asked me “you read the answer of your friend”? I asked … “but who?” And on the computer I showed me this back / response.
        You know, in our part of the very serious things never escape anyone.

      2. Padre Ariel, I have to stop reading his comments and interventions in public, otherwise it ends up that people take me for a madman, tanto rido… !! “Romagna mia Ltd.” and “Thomas Aquinas jr“, resounding!!

  13. Hello friends, about concubines and adulterers point out this http://www.comunedipignataro.it/?p=28056
    Is this
    I quote from the second link http://www.laciviltacattolica.it/it/quaderni/articolo/3461

    “But what it was intended in the ancient Church for "indissolubility"? In the early centuries it opposed the civil law, It considered legitimate repudiation and divorce, the evangelical need not break the marriage and to observe the precept of the Lord, "not to divide what God has joined". However, even the Christian could happen to fail in their marriage and move to a new union; this sin, as all sin, He was not excluded from God's mercy, and the Church, and he had claimed the power to acquit. It was talking about the application of mercy and pastoral condescension, which takes into account the frailty and sinfulness of man. “.

    In conclusion, it seems that in the past, just as it is occurring today, it was much more cautious in defining certain situations as permanent situations of mortal sin. Then there was a tightening, but what is happening today is not contrary to Tradition, apparently.

    1. Sin confessed is forgiven on condition of “sin no more”. If one steals and confesses his sin, It does not mean that from now is allowed to steal! Go look for situations, special cases is not that can turn what is bad into good, Christians , all and sundry, They have to do with sin, even those who seem “uncontaminated” so apparently not very merciful! There is no one who can pass for good what is bad, even God ( It can not contradict himself!).

      1. Dear Antonio.

        If I understand well, she wants to go back to the ancient discipline which regulated this Sacramento, ie, when the absolution of sins could be given a once in a lifetime and never again, on the basis of the obvious and consistent principle: … will’ and sin no more.
        but as, the sacraments, They have not been established to the angelic spirits but for men who are born with original sin, the Church made this repeatable Sacramento.
        Go and “sin no more”, it does not mean, If you fall into the same sin, You can not be absolved, as a sinner unrepentant and recidivist …
        But she, sincerely, He realizes what he wrote and said?

        1. Obviously I'm not well expressed! I know that repeating the same sin, but confessed with the right provisions , it is forgiven. But the resolution not to sin more’ and’ inescapable! The conviction that they can not change the situation affect the right format! If it were not so’ an endless’ of sins would no longer’ won!

  14. Dear don Ariel, the state that I follow The island of Patmos, and as a lay person I really appreciate its contents. But in the latter known times his bitterness against anyone who tries, in his limited, to express an opinion, and the fact that sometimes the comment is not so polite, I do not share respond in kind with terms I would not say Christians: "I deserve you, do so even the pagans?”. I do not find very elegant taunt the little or no theological training, I point out that the "sensus populi" ( I do not know if the Latin is correct) It has often given rise to real theological treatises. The desire at all costs discourse theologically, You look for the mote and do not see the beam, For example: is not secondary marriage between two men or women in front of a mayor or his, rather than condemn the coupling between two "homo" which no longer mentions ( for fear, now we are at this point!)? The cross we must embrace is this: suffering win the drives, illnesses, and everything that the human condition involves. And religious people know this suffering more than any other. It's not mine…

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